a prosumer camera will never look the same as 35mm film.. I'm surprised you don't know this. have you seen the latitude and technical advances of the new KODAK vision 3 5219 .. film is how films are made. it's been like that throughout the history of cinema. digital cinema is on it's way, and here to stay, and i love both.. try shooting 35mm film. you'll see

I am not interested in "film" as in "film". I am interested only in the "movie look". And your argument, is the EXACT SAME argument that film photographers would flood the photography forums 5-7 years ago. But then digital won. You can buy a Canon 5D today and have so much better quality than any film still camera, no grain, clean and sharp pictures.

That's where film goes in the movie industry too: the way of the dodo. Digital is here to stay because it's the future. If you can't see this development, then I would be worry.

vimeo.com/711097

I have to say that I, too, am only concerned with the final look. Providing the end result is as I want it ( a movie-style look, that comes visually close to 35mm film) then that will do nicely. The incredible convenience of the digital format (and, indeed, cheapness!) far outweighs any purist thoughts I might have. Creativity rules, and digital offers this in abundance — small indie filmmakers have never had it so good.

The colours, saturation, and contrast in this film are great, but if you said to me that someone like Philip Bloom had made it on a Sony EX1 with a Letus, then I don't think I would have been able to tell the difference (and I doubt many other people would, either).

But keep it up, because this is good stuff.

If i could shoot 35mm film as easily as i can with digital, I would invest all my dimes into an arri. digital will never be as good as actual film. The Red cam is going to be the turn of digital inside the cinema probably but the whole process of shooting with actual film is so much more meaningful.

I think that now. with digital and film looking so much alike. its no longer about the LOOK. Post production has everything to create anything. BUT. The difference with shooting FILM as to DIGITAL is the connection between the image and the artist. the romance and care you put into each frame. I shoot digital most the time. But when i shoot film (even super 8) i slow everything down. I spend more time planning my shots. or i put trust in the film and the unknown and shoot off the cuff. and when I get that film back, this feeling cant even compare to plugging in a p2 card or logging a tape. Digital doesn't physically exist and Film does. So when you create a digital picture. you get ____.

just my 2 cents
i love both formats. Nothing but love from me.

I agree with Jake here - the feeling of shooting film is different, but the look, not so much with the right 35kit on a decent HD camera. I mean, if you were playing this on a theater screen, you could see the differences I'm sure if you were looking for them.

But anywhere else, not so much.

I know shooting with 35mm can be a blast, but it's expensive and time consuming... personally, I'd opt for digital with a kit and some SLR lenses just so I could do what I love doing more often: tell stories.

Keep up the great work :)

cheers !!

cinema is cinema

Amen.

Isiah, great stuff. It's lit very nicely. Lighting's my biggest concern with a lot of HD Cinematographers, some assume that since what they see is what they get, there's no reason to worry about the lighting. It's interesting when you look at the comments people leave on prosumer HD videos and in most cases the reasons why people say they're beautiful is because of their resolution. There's seems to be this belief that clarity is good cinematography. I really dig what you've done here.

It's always funny when people say prosumer HD and 35mm are similar. That debate kinda goes away when you project your piece in a theater. Yeah, there might not be much difference in the "film look" when you're watching the two on Vimeo, but in any other context you clearly can tell. The clarity of Prosumer HD just kinda messes up that suspension of disbelief, ya know?

And like you've said, I don't think the use of HD is going to knock 35mm out of the picture at all.

Thanks Nathan.. Films will always be shot on Film no matter what the revolution is.. Don't get me wrong, I love working with the digital format, it's freeing and forgiving.. I do believe everyone should shoot film or try to shoot film in their lives. It's a fantastic experience that opened my eyes, and earned my respect.

Thanks for watching !!
.isiah.

I've got to disagree with you there. "The medium is the message." -- McLuhan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message

Hmmm... interesting... I always thought the message is the message... it either communicates the message(s) or it does not regardless of the medium.

Exactly how much the medium adds value (or subtracts) is pretty much dependent of what the intent of the message. And, IMHO...in some (if not most) instances (specially when it comes to technology) the medium is not as influencial as the message.

Honestly, if you hadn't said it was film... I could not have determined the difference.

Good video/film BTW...

Joe is right on in my book!

Yea, I'm with Joe too... the "medium is the message" is just... silly. Who gives a poo' what the medium is :) it's the story that's engaging - not what stock was used to tell it. *nods*

Technically it was very good... the cinematography, light, color, music and film editing was very good... but, is this intended to be more of a learning (perhaps testing) experience? Or, was the intent of the short film more? If so, I had a problem understanding the meaning and couldn't get a grasp of the story's purpose... which probably shows you what I know about this type of art.

cheers !!!

thanks for watching ..