youtube.com/watch?v=L_V6Xq7Eeck

Being processed now - 2nd part up shortly. Cheers Douglas.

Thank you Tracey. Many thanks for taking the time.

Thanks Henry, and give my regards to Finland. A wonderful place.

Any chance to grab this powerpoint off you bro? am needing to do a presentation this weekend. Hope you can help awesome job to man.

Yeah dude: dl.dropbox.com/u/8068/Zeitgeist/Zeitgeist%20Movement%20-%20Objections%20and%20Responses.pptx

My pleasure, Wiri.

Evan, thanks for commenting. Well, All human beings need definable things like water, shelter food, and increasingly, technology. After all, you used a computer to ask this question. It's not disputed what we need. Human beings have more in common than your religion might have taught you. Let's start there. Presently a billion do not even have the basics, hanks largely to predatory theo-capitalism which many a reverend would term as "radical evil" - the kind of system that ultimately destroys itself through it's own logic.

As for the Jesus comment - I don't see how it's relevant to the technical reality of creating a sustainable world. You can pray for food and water all you like. God helps those who help themselves.

You can believe what you like. It's doesn't DO anything in real life. And you certainly don't need religion to know the golden rule. Do unto others.

So let's "do unto others" as we would like to have done unto ourselves. And that requires technical specifics, actual actions, real sustainable systems.

And by the way. Nature is everything including you. You are not separate from it. The misery you see now isn't "innate" - it's a product of a system based on scarcity, conflict through competition and inefficiency. What exactly does one expect from humans in that scenario?