
STEPHEN FRY: WHAT I WISH I'D KNOWN WHEN I WAS 18
1 year ago
Peter Samuelson, interviewer. 29 April 2010.
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Stephen Fry… you’re a neat guy. Too bad you’re famous. :3
Too bad the mono/left-only audio is kind of frustrating… :(
Thank you, Peter.
Soldiering on in spite of pain or discomfort and talking about something when it HURTS, when it is meaningful, not out of habit, is what he seems to advocate.
However, I made the mistake of following goals that I set for myself. My goal was to live happily with her in NYC and go to school and get a job and start my own business. Everything was great for awhile, but then my feelings became exactly as Stephen described it. "Ok, I'm here. Now what?"
We broke up 9 months later, and I felt like my world was caving in on me. I decided to stick it out and move out on my own and continue working. I met my goal and did that for 3 months, still the same feeling.
Finally I lost my job and was forced to move back home. I felt like a complete failure having to leave NYC, and everything Stephen has said in the first 3 minutes has instantly resonated with that feeling.
That was last week, and I'm personally disgusted that you're bashing what Stephen is saying. A goal-free life doesn't mean that your life can't have any direction... Since I don't know you Jake, I can only be 99% sure that you did not experience this when you were 18 years old, and shouldn't be so quick to judge. The only thing that made it all worth while was the journey and time I had learning and living.
Not setting goals because of the fear of being a failure ultimately comes down to YOU. Either overcome the possibility of failure and see it as a learning experience which you stated at the end
"The only thing that made it all worth while was the journey and time I had learning and living."
or wallow in self pity and never try to make something of yourself. You can certainly have direction without setting goals; albeit a nebulous and spontaneous one.
I'd look back at all the positives and obstacles you overcame, the life experience you wouldn't have had without setting those goals mind you.
Also if I may add one of your goals was based entirely off of not your digression but anothers, and if i was sensing the overwhelming amount of pessimism in your post after the break up I'd say that making a goal that is in no way under your decree isn't morally reprehensible.
and no you're correct I didn't experience that, everyones journey in life is an amazingly different story. You make of it what you want, a great quot I like to remind myself of when I'm feeling down
“You can choose to be happy or sad and whichever you choose that is what you get. No one is really responsible to make someone else happy, no matter what most people have been taught and accept as true.”
Cheers to the journey Cody.
I think he is a bit off the mark with his statement on "people who comment" (he speaks of them as if they are lepers!). He seems to imply that everyone that comments on things on the internet have set out to troll and ruin things for other people. I was actually offended by his description of "people who comment" as weird and disturbed. As I'm doing right now, sometimes I like to share my opinion on something, and lacking the viewership or motivation to have my own blog (yet, anyway) I post a comment. I haven't trolled on the internet since I was fifteen or so.
We humans are social beings, and the thought that others might read my thoughts is comforting even though they will likely be looked over.
Also, excuse my I's and My's.
@Dan Hoyt: I completely get your point, and I wanna add one more dimension to it: for me as a web-reader, comments add a great deal of vaue to most articles in many ways. I would neither wanna miss those as a consumer nor as blogger (feedback is one of the main reasons that motivates me).
Terrific interview, wise words by a thoughtful man. Thanks also for the edits (mainly editing out your questions) it made it more captivating.
Peace
Brian
* When I say studying I actually mean idly pondering it while on trains, and reading articles on the internet.
Well said.
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But all in all, maybe what I heard here could be summed up in some things that have been helping me and others lately. I write them here because they might... just might... help someone else as well.
[]Firstly, be honest. So honest that it hurts. Be utterly and completely honest and assume that Everyone else is being honest as well. (unless they prove beyond any doubt that they wish to hurt and deceive you... then you should help them)
[]You must care deeply about Every Single Person you encounter in life. You must look deep into their core and wish nothing but infinite happiness for them. Show this to everyone. From your mother to the maid.
[]Thirdly, you should recognize that every human on this planet is You. We are all human, and life is simply one long conversation with yourself. If it sounds too strange, at least admit that everyone "could be you." (like in Stephen's example of delusions of gov't conspiracy)
[]And finally, you must read these words (or Stephen's), understand them, then walk out the door and live them till the end.
I believe external goals can be good if people have the wisdom to recognize that the means are equally important as the end towards which one is moving.
Additionally, people can make internal goals as well as external goals, which generally can be good. (ie: a goal to 'continue towards mental clarity'... nirvana, ultimate enlightenment, to achieve a certain frame of mind.)
But I guess this leads to another point:
There are goals that people can accept with knowledge that it will be a continuous endeavor, that will most likely never be achieved. (ie: a goal to 'help people' in whatever career choice one chooses. This is obviously a goal, yet it is an impossibility to help everyone... They will always be working towards their goal.)
I'd love to hear some thoughts on the matter. Thanks! :)
I suppose the saying, "The journey is the destination" covers most of it.
Would just say that goals are good. Most of human progress is thanks to brilliant people setting themselves goals.
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