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118. Dad Life
1 year ago
105. Mommy Rhapsody
1 year ago
churchonthemove.com
twitter.com/cotmtulsa

Producer - Whitney George twitter.com/whitneygeorge
Director - Chris Munch twitter.com/cmunch78

Written by - Chris Munch, Whitney George
Angie Woods twitter.com/angiewittywoods
Adam Bush twitter.com/adam_bush
Andrew Dale twitter.com/drewberdale
Andy Chrisman twitter.com/andychrisman

Track recorded at - creativeaudiolab.com
Track produced by - Marcos Cruz & Andy Chrisman
Performed by - Angie Woods, Tanya Baker, Cheryl Wood, Lucas Chrisman

Lighting - Daniel Connell
Production Manager - Andrew Stone

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  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Is this the real life
    Is this just fantasy?
    Caught in a landslide
    No escape from reality
    Open your eyes
    Look up to the skies and see

    I'm just a mom
    I need no sympathy
    Because I do it all
    On the go
    Poopy pants, runny nose
    Kitchen, kids and laundry
    Everything is dirty
    No sleep, no sleep.

    Momma, I puked in the van
    Momma, there's gum stuck in my hair
    I just pushed Lucy down the stairs (she's bleeding)
    Momma, where did I come from?
    Better ask your daddy that when he gets home

    Momma, oooooooh
    I don't wanna die 
    Well, you should have thought of that before you broke my lamp!

    I smell a little bit of poopy in the van
    Sarah move, Sarah move
    Get your butt in the Durango
    Daddy's coming home late, better fix a hot plate NOW!

    Fettuccini
    Ravioli
    Fettucini
    Ravioli
    Fettucini Alfredo
    Magnifico!

    I'm just a poor boy can I have some money please?
    What do I look like? Money doesn't grow on trees!
    Maybe if you ever picked up your things!

    Party at Stevie's house will you let me go?
    Joshua, we will not let you go!
    Let me go!
    Joshua, we will not let you go!
    Let me go!
    Joshua, we will not let you go!
    Let me go!
    Will not let you go!
    Will not let you go!
    Let me go!
    No, no, no, no, no!
    Oh mamma mia, momma mia, let me go!
    If you ask me one more time I'll scream!
    I'll scream!
    I'll scream!

    So you think I don't care if you stay up and cry?
    So you think I don't need any sleep tonight?
    Oh, oh baby
    Please just go to sleep baby!
    Just gotta get out
    Just gotta right out of here

    In the end it's worth it
    Wouldn't change a thing
    In the end it's worth it
    In the end it's worth it to me
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  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Oh ya forgot the last line!

    Gotta wash the kid's clothes
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  • Jody Harlan 1 year ago
    Hilarious. Now that's a church worth going to.
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  • concerned brother 1 year ago
    So how did this honor the Lord? When did church stop being about honoring God and start being about sphincter humor and a big show? How will you outdo yourselves next week? If the entertainment stopped at your church, who would come?

    This was creative, funny and professionally done, don't get me wrong. But if we really thought Jesus was coming back tomorrow, would we have really done this and called it a worship service?

    Let the flaming retorts begin...
  • Claude Parker 1 year ago
    Dear concerned brother
    Its because of people like you that people like me no longer attend church. I got sick and tired of people trying to control my mind by trying to make me feel guilty when I don't have anything to feel guilty about.

    I know the Bible says to Honor God in all things but sometimes its just rediculous. One morning I woke up, went to the bathroom, showered and brushed my teeth. I thought... How does this honor God. And the truth is it doesn't and it shouldn't have to. I'm just getting ready for work.

    ...and if you can think of some obscure way that half dazedly going about my morning can "Honor the Lord" then you can think of several obvious ways that this video does... and if you can't, then just KEEP YOUR STINKIN MOUTH SHUT!

    I know how much work goes into a production like this and the last thing these people need, after all of their selfless toils, is for some judgmental nay sayer like you to smear their fruits by being critical.

    For the love of Pete, Just enjoy the SHOW!!
  • RamFM 1 year ago
    I attended a church of 6000 people for about 15 years. The lead pastor there, a veteran who had been pastoring for 20+ years, had to argue w/church administration to introduce secular music into the sermons. His mission was to reach people where they were in their life. Where they were hurting. And he was successful. People felt understood. They felt he was reading their mail by reaching them through the music they were listening too (albeit fairly clean secular music w/a message) and bringing them to God's perspective. Church is about reaching out & creating relationship. 2 most important commandments Jesus gave. Love God with all your might and Love your neighbor. Bible thumping drives people away and is legalistic. We are living in a world where people or their loved ones are being sucked into a world of addiction and loss, that is where we reach them. Even Christian moms struggle in the day to day operating of caring for their loved ones and sometimes, it feels darn good to simply know God and the church you attend understand how you feel & where you at. It's refilling the pot of the soul so that you can do laundry and serve those around you one more day. God Bless you today Concerned Brother.
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  • BroBar 1 year ago
    Very entertaining. Who says church has to be all pressed pants, stiff collars and sit quietly (while trying to stay awake) until the "serious" stuff is over? I enjoyed it!

    That "big show" caught my attention... and if I didn't live over 1,000 miles away I'd definitely stop in and check that church out (and I haven't cast my shadow on a church house door in over a decade). Great work guys/gals!
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  • ethan vanse 1 year ago
    concerned brother:
    I would agree with your comments, except I've seen the rest of the service:) I know exactly why people would come back, exactly how God was honored and exactly how/why it was part of the worship service. You should watch the entire service too, it'll help answer your questions. . . really. Watch it!
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  • Dwaine Stroud 1 year ago
    Amazing! Loved It!

    Concerned Brother... to answer your question, yes, but it is not the entire worship service. It was just a portion of it. A very well done offering (worship) of God-given talent that engaged the people and allowed for the rest of the service to be all the more effective.
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  • tanya baker 1 year ago
    I am one of the three ladies that was in the video. As a performer, I am thankful that COTM gives me a chance to honor God with my gifts and talents. I also teach music at our church's school and teach the kids that bringing joy to people through their performing IS honoring to God and is a way for them to use their God-given talents. If we can't laugh in church then people will go to the world to find their laughs -- in all the wrong places, most likely.
  • Kristen Miller 1 year ago
    Tanya - thank you for explaining how this works. As a fellow 'creative' type, I struggled for a long time on how are my gifts valuable to the Kingdom? I see people run around the world on mission trips, give thousands of dollars to the church, and do all these spectacular things - and all I have is a couple pretty pictures.

    And then I think of that silly little Christmas carol - The Little Drummer Boy. In that song, it says that artistic beauty is as important to Christ as any tangible gifts.
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  • Melanie Gates 1 year ago
    that was just amazing mad me laugh and cry awesome job wish i didnt live so far or i'd be there!!!
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  • Wendy Nichols 1 year ago
    Do you think God doesn't have a sense of humor. Sure he does. He made us in his image. He made us to have a sense of humor. I am sure He enjoys this stuff as much as we do. It is ok to laugh in church.
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  • Jack Snedden 1 year ago
    Concerned Brother: You ask how this honors God. I submit that it honors God when, in one weekend 17,000 attend Easter services and 600 adults and 111 children accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior AND get baptized. This was not THE worship service. As always, incredible worship followed and the message that followed was awesome. You really should watch the service in its entirety for yourself. If a person cannot laugh and have a great time with their brothers and sisters in Christ then very few would come. You ask how will they outdo themselves next week. Its not about outdoing oneself. Its about meeting people where they are and touching their lives in a consistent and caring way and effecting lifelong change in their lives. Its about using the talents God has given to win souls to God's kingdom. I am one of those people and there are many more. Please read the "My Story" entries on the COTM website. That honors God, and I respectfully challenge you to find otherwise. You asked how many would come if there were no high quality performances. I came to COTM before it evolved into what it is today. I left for many years of education and professional training before returning to Tulsa. The teaching, kids ministry, and warm and joyful environment is what made me move to this church for good. Maybe that is part of the problem in this high tech era we live in now, its hard to capture people's attention and keep it long enough for them to learn something. It worked for me, I accepted Christ while watching a children's show (Gospel Bill, created and produced by our Pastor and COTM) with my son in 1992. I pray you are in a church that edifies and nurtures your relationship with God, and if not I pray you find one that does.
    Blessings!!
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  • barbara jones 1 year ago
    WoW! really brilliant and creative. One person posted "how did this honor the Lord...."well it honored Him by lifting me in a day with bad news, seeing my sisters in Christ shine with talent and grace and humor, honestly during this video I thought wow..I hope this is what heaven is like!
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  • Adam 1 year ago
    Things like this production do serve a very important purpose for the church.

    They server to attract people to the church, to make them laugh, and feel good about coming. This makes it easier to get them to open their wallets and "tithe."

    Church is a business and things like this are simply a promotional tool. Standard business practice.

    Yes, I'm an atheist and a cynic when it comes to the church but I speak from experience. I spent 19 years in the church bubble so I have some clue as to what I'm talking about.

    Video was funny though.
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  • Chelsea Lytle 1 year ago
    Adam, not all churches do things like this just to get you to tithe and give more. I'm not saying that's true of all churches, but many, like mine, do fun little things like this occasionally to lighten up the mood of the congregation.

    I know that playing catchy music and doing fun productions has made it easier for me personally to feel in touch with God and make it easier for me to worship in a way that won't bore me. Many churches I've been to are strictly serious and I've hated that. I feel in touch with God by acting like myself and enjoying hearing messages in creative ways.
    This production said to me that mother's do a lot for their children, thus making me feel more grateful for my mother. I don't doubt many others felt the same way.
    So even if there isn't a God, things like this are a positive thing. They convey an important message whether everyone sees it or not.
  • Adam 1 year ago
    You call it "God" I call it a "good feeling" in the end the effect is the same. You feel good about being at the church and your wallet (or purse) gets a little easier to open when to offering plate comes around.

    I can imagine the scenario - pastor goes on stage and says something like

    "I hope you enjoyed the production today, it's really important to remember how hard our mothers work every day. I would to take a moment and thank the production team, please give them a round of applause [everyone claps]. Now as you know these types of productions are very nice to have, I'd like for you to keep in mind that you can make an offering at any time and dedicate it for production department. If I could have the ushers come forward - lets give thanks before we take tithes and offerings."

    I'm not saying that the pastor did, or has said anything like that. He doesn't necessarily have to depending on how programed the congregation is to respond to these sorts of things.

    In the end it's about profits. Plain and simple.

    Oh, and the theme of the production is a wee bit sexist (all the women are doing the entire time is house work?). Not surprising though, coming from a church that practices a religion that has been giving women the shaft since its invention.
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  • Carlos from Philly 1 year ago
    I'm not christian, but i'm curious-- isn't a production like this more about celebrating and focusing attention on three actors (solos, spotlights, applause) versus the message of Jesus Christ and/or God?
    Seems like the opposite of what worshipping at church is about, no?
    If 98% of the week comprises secular things, shouldn't the 2% reserved for worship be... idunno, about God?
    It appears as though this is more about putting the spotlight on the actors/dancers/producers (to the tune of a song written by a homosexual*) than about spending time in a church reflecting on Jesus.
    Again, I'm not christian so frankly it doesn't matter to me what christians do in "church", but the idea of playing a secular song and dance during what your bible teaches is a time of reverence is sorta puzzling.

    *i have no negative opinion about homosexuality, but from what i've learned the christian church sees this as a bad thing, so it further compounds the confusion.
  • cheryl wood 1 year ago
    Good question, Carlos. While you are right that this song did not really in any way convey the message of Christianity, it was one of several ways our church honored mom's on Mother's Day. As a mom myself, it not only made me laugh and feel appreciated, I can honestly say it refreshed me in my role as a mom...sort of made me realize that the mundane tasks that often take up a good bit of my day really are worth it, because my kids are worth it. That was the purpose it set out to accomplish, and it did just that.

    I can assure you...because I was there...the hour and a quarter or so that followed this opening were very much about worship and prayer and Biblical instruction. However, regarding your statement that 98% of the week is secular and 2% more "spiritual" I would say that to the true follower of Jesus...our whole existence is spiritual...continually interwoven with the "secular". If we truly believe that Jesus is who He said he was...the very son of God...then our relationship with him should be reflected in everything we do (including the diapers, carpools, laundry and other "stuff of mom-hood";) . Unfortunately, far too many people who call themselves Christians give Christ no place in their every day living. But I don't think that is really how God intended his people to live.

    Just a reflection from a Christian mom who was there.
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  • Carlos from Philly 1 year ago
    Actually, I wasn't aware that this was mother's day.
    While any production (song, speech, etc) in a church is something i would expect to be religious, the fact that it was mother's day does frame things in a more "appropriate" context.

    Thanks for answering!
  • cheryl wood 1 year ago
    Glad I could clear that up for you, Carlos! BTW...basically everything that comes out of our church is way more "relationship" based than "religious". Trust me, it's a way more refreshing way to "do" church:)
  • Claude Parker 1 year ago
    Well Carlos! Maybe you should have read some of the posts before trying to tell these people how to run their church service.
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  • charles trichel 1 year ago
    i loved this and the one about dads. i watched every second and want to say great job on both! if you can hold my attention for 5 min you have done something. while watching the mom video all i could think about was how that fit my wifes life perfectly!

    again, great job on both videos.
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  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Fun and entertaining, but not what I would hope to find when I gather with other believers for a worship meeting, that should be focused on Christ, and His work, and not on ourselves. There's a place for entertainment (most would agree) but not at a worship meeting.

    The idea that this type of production would make people want to be a part of that church is a bit disheartening, and shows how ticklish the ears are of people these days. (not saying they don't teach the Word as well)

    Being a Christian is understanding our need for Christ, and putting our faith in His perfect work. The practice of it should be according to Truth, and not according to our need for good feelings.
  • TheChicoProducions 1 year ago
    as a charismatic, we need to find ways to relate to non believers. We can't be just feeding them the word of God a every waking moment. We need to form a relationship, that's what christianity is a relationship not a religion. How do you know this was a worship service in the first place? It could be a women's event.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Relating to non-believers isn't our job when we gather for fellowship and worship. It's the time to remember the Lord, and His work alone. Spirit and Truth worship is about fellowship with other believers, and worship of the Christ who died for us. That is primary.

    There are other venues for evangelism.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    "Relating to non-believers isn't our job when we gather for fellowship and worship."

    Seriously? Please give me a verse supporting this point of view?
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    The examples given in the New Testament show us that evangelism and worship were two separate events. Worhip involves communion (not to be shared with unbelievers) and remembering the Lord and His work. Recognizing who we are in our need for a savior.

    Evangelism ("relating to non-believers") is to be done one on one and in public speaking. You can look at 1Cor 11, 1Cor 10. 1Pet 3:15
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    When Paul tells the Corinthians not to partake of the cup of devils and then partake of the Lord's supper he is speaking literally! There were quite literally people claiming to be Christians who were going to pagan temples and engaging in the practices of worship to these other gods. They weren't doing it in the name of evangelism. They were indulging themselves.

    The verses you listed have NOTHING to do with evangelism, they have to do living a double a life.

    Lastly, I would ask, if that's really your strategy, how's it working for you? is your church growing and reaching new people or is it filled with the same people who've been there for years.

    Is it a hospital? or a club.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    The chapters I refer to have to do with mixing idolotry with true worship. They also have to do with acknowledging all believers as part of the Church no matter where they are, or where they worship. (one body, one bread) In 1Cor 11 it speaks to the sickness and troubles brought into the assembly when people don't make sure they are partaking worthily. (true believers?)

    It's somewhat offensive when people speak to "my church" as in opposition to any others, or some other sects. God see's no sects in His Church, just believers that are washed in Christ's blood. Meeting here and there, but all acknowledging Him as the Head.

    To answer your other question, about "my church", I don't have a Church, but I am part of it. Our assembly is small, but growing, and we have a large outreach (even though we are small) to prison ministries and we hand out many tracts and booklets, and are willing to give an answer to any of the Hope we have in Christ. (neither hospital, nor club)

    How would you define idolotry in this day? I see it as a literal problem for today, as well as in Paul's day.
  • Claude Parker 1 year ago
    Kimerk
    Sounds like you have some great ideas based in sound scripture.
    I would encourage you to presue your ideals tenaciously while sparing the rest of us your condemning comments.
    There is always time for fun and theres no reason worshiping God can't be fun. As a matter of fact, I don't think its worship if its not fun.
    Its possible that your church is so small because you treat fun like it's a SIN!
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  • DJK 1 year ago
    Rad, her shirt says Huntington Beach, CA. That's where I live.
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  • TheChicoProducions 1 year ago
    pure genius!
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  • Karen Carlo 1 year ago
    I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned the 5th commandment. God seemed to think honoring mothers had something to do with honoring him.

    Just because something is non-traditional or doesn't directly mention Jesus does not mean it does not honor God!

    Great performance! Made this mom's night!
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  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Do you think Queen is a group that honors God? This video doesn't honor parents. It makes a mockery of motherhood, makes it seem like drudgery at best. Funny, but not anything other than secular.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Paul quoted a pagan greek poet. How did that honor God?
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    In what context?

    Have you read the lyrics to Bohemian Rhapsody? I'm glad they weren't quoted here, but the feeling of the song comes from our familiarity with the original music, doesn't it?

    I'm not saying this a horrible production. I just don't see is as a "Christian" production. How is it? There is no Gospel involved. Even if it was a good venue for it.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    "I just don't see is as a "Christian" production. How is it? There is no Gospel involved."

    What's the story of the gospel? That God's son Jesus, came and willingly laid down his life so that we might live. Agree?

    Does a good mother not also lay down certain ambitions and desires and free time when she chooses to care for her child? Of course! She lays down her life so that her child might experience life.

    That's the message of the Gospel demonstrated to a child!

    This is a HUGE problem in Christianity today. We've divorced the Gospel from our everyday life and see the two as having no connection to each other.

    Colossians 3:17 says
    "Whatever you say, or whatever you do, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus. Give thanks to God the Father through Jesus."

    That means that our entire lives have spiritual context, not just what happens on Sunday. We're a church that happens to believe that a mother brings honor to God by being a good mom and therefore it's worth honoring in a worship service, because ultimately it brings honor to God.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Our entire life should reflect Christ, not just good parenting. That can take place outside of any eternal message. Most religions teach good parenting. That's not the issue.

    I would never have assumed that this was a Christian group if I had not read the comments, or gone to the website.

    I did find it entertaining. Same with the Dad's Life video. Very well done. But no Christian message at all. Did it keep me from enjoying it? No. Did it help me in my walk with the Lord. No again.

    My argument isn't against the production of such entertainment. It's calling it "godly" or "spiritual." It just isn't. (in my opinion of course.)

    Do we want to follow the Lord in our daily lives and endeavors? Or do we want Him to follow us?

    I read a quote the other day, that if a woman has to *tell you that she's a Christian, she probably isn't. I don't fully agree with that, but it does have a little merit.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

    "I would never have assumed that this was a Christian group if I had not read the comments, or gone to the website."

    I'll actually take that as a great compliment. Again much of what qualifies as "christian" is just plain weird. If you're a big fan "christian" music and "christian" movies than me and you probably aren't going to see eye to eye on a lot of things.

    I'd rather not be associated with much of the Christian media out there. If I had my way I'd ban the use of the word Christian as an adjective or category for entertainment.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    "I'll actually take that as a great compliment. Again much of what qualifies as "christian" is just plain weird. If you're a big fan "christian" music and "christian" movies than me and you probably aren't going to see eye to eye on a lot of things.

    I'd rather not be associated with much of the Christian media out there. If I had my way I'd ban the use of the word Christian as an adjective or category for entertainment. "

    I have to agree, in that I wouldn't want to be associated with much of what claims itself as Christian. The definition of Christian would be following Christ, or Christ-like. (noun/adjective)

    If what you claim as "weird" are songs that represent biblical christianity, or good theology, as in some of the old hyms, then we definitely disagree.

    I have to admit that I'm a bit saddened that you are glad that your production seems secular. But if your intent is to entertain people that are already believers, than I guess that makes some sense. If you are seeking to reach the lost, that's another matter.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    I'll admit I'm baffled by your theology.

    Read Song of Solomon, even just chapter 1 for that matter and explain to me it's Christian message and how it helps you in your walk with the Lord.
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  • meliscellany 1 year ago
    "The homemaker has the ultimate career. All other careers exist for one purpose only - and that is to support the ultimate career. "
    — C.S. Lewis
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  • Don Speirs 1 year ago
    As a performer, I congratulate everyone associated with this.

    Second, reread the last lyrics... that's what the whole message drives to.

    Third, for those who a literalists regarding the Scriptures, I feel sad for you. Because you must truly believe Jesus had no sense of humor and therefore so must you as well.

    Whitney, keep sowing your seeds of hope and humor - they do reach people. God bless and keep you well.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Thanks so much Don.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Whether Christ has a sense of humor isn't the point. Seems people want to bring the Lord to our level, rather than aspire to know Him according to the Scriptures. Where do you read a sense of humor into God's Word? Just curious.

    Regarding the Song of Solomon, I see that as a beautiful picture of the Bridegroom's devotion and tender affection for his bride. (the Church) As well as the complete infatuation and devotion she has for Him. So it does influence my walk with Christ in helping to understand that relationship.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    I give up.

    I would like one question answered, please. Is your church growing and reaching new people or is it filled with the same people who've been there for years?

    Please be honest.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    In a loose analogy, yes. But, as a mother myself, I don't aspire to providing salvation to my children through my own sacrifice. I seek to lead them and teach them of Christ's redemption, and to recognize His sacrifice however.

    You mentioned being baffled by my theology. I'm not sure what theology you are referring to.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Also, Psalms alone records 3 instances of God laughing. So apparently he does indeed have a sense of humor.

    I hope I never meet the god you serve.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Our assembly is growing, we have several new members this year. We also have a few families that have been there for years. We have a few that have come and gone for different reasons.

    But yes, we are a small, home assembly. Hardly successful by your standards I guess.

    I would say we reach more people through our outreach ministries than anything. Our worship meetings are focused on Christ, and not on bringing new people in to swell the ranks. We have open Bible studies that we invite people to that we come into contact with. Often these people have a different assembly they meet with on Sundays, but come to our studies during the week.
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  • Don Speirs 1 year ago
    Kinerk, one thing that has always struck me about home-based societies like that is their tendency towards being, well, exclusive - sort of the Christian equivalent of a country club. But despite my misgivings, I would never say that your method of worship was invalid. So exactly why do you feel you have the right, duty and responsibility to pass judgment on the way others worship?

    What disappoints me about this argument is that it is happening at all. Let each worship God according to hie or her measure, in their own way and their own time. In the end, God will judge all of us, both you and your congregation and Whitney and his, by the works they do in their life, and your ability to follow the two commandments Jesus gave us.

    Whitney, if Kimirk's congregation can do that, celebrate for them.

    Kimerk, if COTM can do that as well, then rejoice for them as well.

    Any other behavior or comment is just professional jealousy.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Don,

    I appreciate your effort to make peace here, but keep in mind, I haven't attacked the way she and her assembly do anything! I've only defended our point of view by pointing out the holes in her theology on the matter.

    So this isn't about us claiming that the other is wrong, or me not being able to rejoice in the way other people do church. I have loads of friends across the country who do church in a variety of different ways and I celebrate all of them. She's said point blank that things we do like Mommy Rhapsody and Dad Life have no spiritual value and therefore have no place in church, which is an opinion she has a right to have but when you post it on OUR vimeo page, then I have a right to defend myself, and I have.

    Professional jealousy has nothing to do with it. At least not on my end.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Don,

    I didn't come here to pass judgement, argue, or tell anyone how to worship. I don't have any idea what this assembly's worship meetings are like. I was adding my opinion to a discussion that was already going in regards to the spiritual value of this type of production.

    I apologize if anything I said was abrasive. That was not my intention. I thought discussion was invited in this venue. I enjoy discussing scripture with different people from different denominations, etc.

    Whitney, you mention pointing out holes my theology, yet we didn't even discuss theology. You pointed out some vague passages, but never gave me the context or verses so I could even read what you were referring to. I would like the verses in Psalms that you mentioned.

    I sincerely hope we do worship the same God, however. I don't doubt your sincerity in what you do.

    Lord be with you.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    A theology is mans reflection on God.

    We discussed at length what is and what is not spiritual, whether or not God has a sense of Humor, whether or not the gospel can be reflected in a presentation that doesn't directly mention Christ, and whether or not evangelism belongs in the church.

    So through our conversations I learned something about how you view God. He doesn't have a sense of humor, he doesn't like productions in church, he's not very happy with me, and he doesn't like what I do for his church.

    So yeah, we talked about your theology. I believe that every action we take is a reflection on how we view God, not just those discussing the major doctrinal issues.

    The verses in Psalms are: Psalm 2:4, 37:13, 59:8
    I guess the other vague reference I gave you was in regards to Paul quoting a pagan Greek poet and is found in Acts 17:28. I suggest reading.

    What's interesting is that he's using the pagan culture around him to point people to Christ. Is Mommy Rhapsody not the same thing? The Gospel was preached shortly after this presentation.

    Before I go, there are 8 references in the scripture that say "honor your father and mother." 8 separate times we are told to honor our father and our mother.

    That's what Mommy Rhapsody is! Maybe it's not your style, that's fine, but it was our way to honor moms.
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Thank you for the references. I will read them.

    Again I apologize for obviously offending you.

    The generalizations you make about my beliefs are off, but that's okay. I put you on the defensive and that's not the right way to have a conversation.
  • Claude Parker 1 year ago
    Kimerk
    Well, what did you expect?
    You come into a forum where people obviously think highly of the video and start to poke holes in it with your holier than thou pointy finger. Just remember there are three fingers pointing back at you.
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  • niki stark harding 1 year ago
    As a gay Mum, i have no idea whether my partner and I would be welcome in this church or not, but I can assure the concerned brother that to me the work I do within my home all of which is sung about in the above song I count as a way of blessing my home for it to be fit for the lord to love me and mine.

    I do it out of love for my family, love, the greatest gift god has ever given the world.

    Every act they sing of a parent somewhere in the world will be doing out of love...

    In my Quaker terms dear concerned brother, I am holding you in the light x

    Girls? You ROCKED - my partner and I are sat here in hysterics going "WOw - you sooooooooo do that!!!"

    have you seen the Mommy song on youtube also?! I love that one!
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  • niki stark harding 1 year ago
    whitney - if you saw my hair when i wake up you would KNOW he has a sense of humour!!!

    and look at baboons! lol!
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  • Bobbie Fletcher 1 year ago
    Wow. I just finished reading all these comments. Wow.

    I'm a Christian (meaning I have a personal relationship with Jesus, I'm not religious) I'm a mother and foster mother. I've been in Children's Ministry for 11 years (9 1/2 of those as full time staff) I happen to believe that this video was the funniest thing I've watched online this month! (ok, so we'll say 2 months since July just started! haha)

    I think the performers did a great job and they should be proud - as a mom - if I'd been there - I would have felt honored!

    I don't attend COTM - 2 hours is too long to drive - but if I lived closer and didn't have a Bible believing, lost reaching, disciple making church home church already....COTM would be where I'd go.

    I've attended their conferences in the past and I've talked with the Pastoral Staff - and I know where their heart is, where their focus is - right where it should be - on God (1) and the Lost (2).

    I don't see a reason at all why church productions can't be done in a spirit of excellence & entertaining. I didn't watch the video of the entire service - as I'm sure most all the others who commented didn't either. But I'm sure it was a great service, filled with Biblical teaching.

    I think anyone who says that Church on the Move isn't about reaching the lost...hasn't sat under the teaching of Pastor Willie George or his staff...or attended any of their conferences or outreaches.

    And anyone who didn't find the video appropriate for church because it was humorous or funny.....I'm feel so sorry for you..."doing church", following a list of religious do's and do not's, and being critical must be so tiring and boring. I hope that one day you'll be able to break free of the spirit of religion, you'll be able to develop a relationship with God and find that it's okay to laugh and have fun in church....really, it is!
  • Kimerk28 1 year ago
    Bobbie,
    Just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean I'm passing judgment on the teaching of this assembly. I haven't been there, nor watched any of their teaching. I did read their statement of faith, and I agree with. I also enjoyed the videos, just didn't agree with the time and place for them. (my opinion)

    Scripture says to prove all things, test the spirits, and hold fast to the simplicity that is Christ Jesus. Some might say that only applies to our basic salvation. I believe it applies to our practice of our faith as well. Obedience to the precepts of the New Testament practice of the assembly is important in my opinion. It doesn't lessen the joy I have in Christ, nor the joy we have in our worship meetings. (believe it or not)

    It does mean that I try to make sure that I'm not being swayed by philosophy or false teaching (generally speaking, not saying that's happening here), and I think all believers have a responsibility to do that.

    2Cor 11:3
    1Thes 5:21
    2Thes 2:15
  • Claude Parker 1 year ago
    Kimerk
    Its true you have the right to disagree and to your own opinion, but nobody asked you. When you go telling your opinion and disagreeing without being asked, thats passing judgment.

    And yes, the Bible says to "prove all things" but it also says to stone gays and witches and for slaves to obey their masters.

    I don't give a lot of credit when people start digging around for passages to suit their purposes. You know who does that? The KKK, Hitler, Satan, and even worse, creation scientists.

    Thats what I think when you start droping bible verses.
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  • James Lyons 1 year ago
    "The video drew me in. The iron-sharpening made me stay. The nourishing food made me want to come back - with friends."

    (That's me quoting me.)

    I am not going to provide my resume, I would just like to make a comment...

    When Jesus walked the earth during his ministry, I realize that he did in fact teach in the temple to the theologians and scholars (which were few, in that day as well as today).

    However, it seems to me that he knew that the real ministry was not in closed-door meetings with a few select intellectuals who shared much in common, but that his Kingdom would only grow if he sought ways to reach people, real people, where they were.

    I don't think that Jesus had (or has) a condescending bone in his body.

    Of course he met in small groups with his closest disciples. But he also met those who needed to feel his love the most right where they were. He spoke THEIR language (Paul ministered in a similar fashion.)

    What I guess I am trying to express is that Jesus did travel to public places and "plant seeds." But he did something just as important (and what it would seem COTM also does in their worship services)...namely, he FED those who came to him as well. And you might recall that he did so in ways that angered the "religious leadership" of his day (e.g., preaching on the Sabbath).

    I truly think that Jesus, and Paul after him, ministered by creatively thinking about what manner of message delivery would reach his audience at a particular moment. He told stories that, on the surface, might seem like children's tales to non-theologians. Yet, by avoiding being condescending and speaking directly in the language and to the culture (and I suppose even the attention spans) of his listeners he drew them in.

    In other words, he LOVED them.

    Jesus did not reach out by sitting in closed circles. He spoke to crowds who encircled HIM. I believe that there is a significant difference in ministering in this way. (And by the way, I am in no way suggesting that sitting in a circle in your living room during a Bible study is wrong...it is simply a metaphor.)

    I don't know any of you on this comment thread. And yet I love you in Christ, since we are all brothers and sisters. Thanks for your time, and for exercising my faith through this video and your comments.

    You all should know that I needed it. Thank you again.
  • cheryl wood 1 year ago
    Well said!
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Very well said James.
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  • Trish McDermott 1 year ago
    What an awesome production. It brought tears to my eyes. There is nothing like the unconditional love of being a mother. That being said, there is nothing like the frustration of motherhood, either. Your performance reflects the fact that this is SO not the life we imagined when we were growing up, but we wouldn't trade it for the world. What a perfect thing to plan for Mother's Day!
    Kudos to you all for daring to be different from the rest and getting your message out to more people. I imagine it must be quite refreshing for people to walk out at the end knowing they have enjoyed the entire service. That's what it is all about.
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Wow, thanks so much Trish! You nailed it, that's exactly what we were going for. Thanks again.
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  • Janet Bloem 1 year ago
    For me, you just took 1st place amongst the "Rhapsody" videos! WOOHOO!! Excellent!!!
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  • Dale Flannery 1 year ago
    Hey Whit, can you allow downloads please. Thanks! :-)
  • Whitney George 1 year ago
    Dale, you can download this and a whole lot more church resources for free at seeds.churchonthemove.com. Enjoy.
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  • LBDDiaries 1 year ago
    This was just wonderful - I laughed and then went off to send this page to all my fellow "mommy's" - great job!!!
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  • Gabe Cedillo 1 year ago
    I really did love this production as well as the Dad's song. And after reading the comments, I am both saddened and enlightened.

    I studied Worship and Creative Arts at Hillsong College in Sydney and after coming back home to Houston, TX I am so encouraged to find churches with similar hearts for the unified Kingdom, not the "my church is better than yours" mentality, but a true "one church in Christ" mentality. Hillsong does an amazing job at outreaching to the lost and hurting world and does so through very similar avenues with drama, outreaches, secular (clean) music, "Sunday Night Live" (which happen for one month a year and are basically an entire night service where the sermon is integrated seamlessly with all types of arts and media), Connect Groups (small group social/Bible studies) and crazy amounts of time and resources.

    I was on the production team for most of this time and know what kind of time and dedication it takes to put on even a small special item such as this one song. Thank you so much for everything you do!! CoTM has an amazing way of reaching people and such a great avenue for doing so, please keep it up!!! I saw a comment here from a woman living in partnership with another woman who also believes in God and loves her children dearly. I can't help but believe that she really feels that a congregation wouldn't be able to accept her and would condemn her immediately. She would probably be right at least 6 out of 10 times, but I pray she is able to find a home church where she can grow and listen to the Word of God. There is no statistical evidence for this statement, but judgement within the church is an ongoing theme for millenia, now. There are so many churches out there because so many people believe their own way is right and can't accept another view.

    My family very sadly had to leave a church where we were heavily involved because God called us to move forward. They were very inwardly focused and didn't like things like "moving lights" and "loud music" because the pastor felt it disrupted "his worship" time. Until we stepped down and out of the church did we see the true colors of the people we called friends and "family" in Christ. If we were not so strongly grounded in God, we would never have gone to a church again. It was repulsive, but we knew God had moved us from there for many reasons. We have now found a new home church with the same heart and outreach called Grace Church in Humble. It captures exactly the same "heart of God" that the church needs to possess to become the bride of Christ: a love for His people. It uses media and recently just did an entire "youth takeover" where they used songs from Usher and Jonas Brothers to relate a message that was so inspiring for kids as they went back to school. Ed Young Jr. at Fellowship Church in Grapevine, TX has some amazingly, ridiculous videos and media as well. He cracks me up and I would attend there if we lived less than 4 hours away. It's all Biblically based and focused on reaching out to the lost.

    I guess the point of commenting on this thread is that there are many churches out there with a love for reaching the lost, let's not get caught up on some people's methods of outreach. Jesus used very "frowned upon by the church" methods for reaching people where they were at and bringing them in to know His love and forgiveness. He also didn't argue with "religious" zealots of the day. He would recite one parable or make one statement and left the Pharisees and Saducees murmuring with one another.

    Being a mother is such a thankless job as well as a father. Taking time out of a church service (literally called that for a reason, by the way) to honor a group of individuals who can feel so unappreciated as they go about their daily lives, is not something that has no relevance to God's Word. We are called to gather to "fellowship" which includes edifying one another and building one another. If mothers were edified, that's doing exactly what the church was designed to do. I am a big believer in getting outside of the four walls (or however many walls there are in some of these other odd-shaped churches today, lol) and become united as one body in Christ. That's who we are meant to be as Christ's "body."
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  • Cerulean Me 1 year ago
    concerned brother- How was it honoring god when Jesus turned water into wine at the wedding? Christians can honor god in their every day activities and chores, and their art by doing it and using their talents even without directly preaching.

    Perhaps you need to worry more about how you are honoring god with your time on the internet...
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  • Another one done to perfection. Seems like a great forward thinking (out of the box as well) Church. Great job people. Keep them coming. Wish COTM was in California. Hmmm?
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  • Amazing!!!! I want to go to this church!!! This is what church should be like. Just because we are christians doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to have fun!!

    Great Job Everyone!!!
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