While we were down in Guadalajara, MX shooting for the new Sunday Bikes DVD, I had a chance to catch up with two guys that know a lot about the Luc-e grind. Jim C has been doing the grind for over a decade and has came through with many different variations of it. Jake Seely is a young, up and comer who is taking the Luc-e to new levels with tricks in and out of it. Both sit down for a little chat about the origin of, its current state, whose progressing it and where it can go.