Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (see websites: BibleQuery org, HistoryCart com & MuslimHope com) accepts a debate challenge by a "Church Universal & Triumphant" advocate named Verner Zotter. This debate took place on Larry's ministry radio outreach show entitled, "Christian Answers Live!" playing on KIXL 970 AM on Saturday nights. Verner Zotter, a local cable access television producer, took exception to Larry Wessels' local cable access shows playing on Time Warner channel 11 in Austin, Texas & thus challenged for debate. Wessels saw this debate as an opportunity to deal with one of the many forms of "New Age" religious belief that sets itself up in opposition to Biblical truth. The "Church Universal & Triumphant" (CUT for short) is one of the chief sects to grow out of the "'I AM' Ascended Masters" new age religious movement. "I AM" has its roots in an eclecticism of ancient GNOSTICISM, Eastern MYSTICISM, THEOSOPHY, & CHRISTIANITY. Borrowed from Exodus 3:14, the phrase "I AM" attempts to capture the locus & essence of deity that resides in a line of "Ascended Masdters" throughout history.The "I AM" movement proper began in the 1930s with GUY BALLARD (1878-1939) & his wife Edna (1886-1971). Borrowing from the Gnostic idea that God, as absolute spirit, is only accessible through human intermediaries, the Ballards taught that these "Masters" had been raised up at various times throughout history to reveal God's truth. The chiefs of the Ascended Masters were Jesus & a seventeenth-century OCCULTIST, Saint Germain, with whom Ballard claimed to have had contact in 1930 on Mount Shasta in California. Guy Ballard died in 1939 & his wife Edna then claimed that her dead husband was now an "Ascended Master" & she claimed to be in contact with him. Following Edna's conviction for mail fraud & fraudulent solicitation of funds she continued to provide leadership for the movement until her death in 1971. The "Church Universal & Triumphant" (CUT) was founded by MARK L. PROPHET (1918-1973). Prophet, a Theosophist, claimed to have received revelations from the Ascended Master "El Morya" after which Prophet announced that he was the secretary or revealer of "El Morya's" thoughts & discourses. In 1975 the CUT, then known as the Summit Lighthouse, published a document allegedly by "El Morya" supposedly linking key leaders of THEOSOPHY (another New Age religious group), Ascended Masters throughout history, the Ballards, & finally Prophet.Elizabeth Clare Wolf was an attendant at some of Mark Prophet's early conferences. She was immediately attracted to him as they shared a common vision on the night of April 22, 1961, in Boston. They were soon married & found themselves in constant contact with the spirit world. Eventually, Mark & Elizabeth began to proclaim themselves the divinely appointed messengers of the "GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD"(made up of CONFUCIUS, BUDDHA, Jesus Christ, Jesus' mother Mary, Saint Francis, Saint Germain, El Morya, & among present figures, Guy Ballard & Mark Prophet) & sought international outlets for their teachings.After Mark Prophet died in 1973 Elizabeth renamed her religious organization the "Church Universal & Triumphant". Elizabeth also found out through "communication" with the Ascended Masters that she was now to be given the titles of "Guru Ma," "Mother of the Flame," & "Mother of the Universe." Her teachings say that God does not exist apart from the created universe. Her doctrine of God is similar to PANTHEISM as taught by Hinduism. Like many New Age cults, CUT does not make the distinction between God & creation as Christianity does. CUT says "Jesus" & "Christ" are to be understood as being two different concepts. For CUT "Jesus" is just a historical person that lived in Palestine while "Christ" embodies a principle of divine consciousness possessed by everyone in the world. CUT also denies the Biblical concept of the Godhead, the Trinity (Father, Son & Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19), they say the "Holy Spirit" is not God but rather a depersonalized "energy," a "germinal power of nature," or the "Fire of the Cosmos." CUT denies the Biblical account of salvation by denying the necessity of Christ's death on the cross & the reality of eternal punishment by a righteous & holy God. CUT rather says that salvation is achieved by "self-realization" (similar to Hinduism & Eastern thought) by claiming that once a person becomes aware that they themselves are divine, then salvation has been accomplished. This debate will clearly show the differences between the Biblical record & people who base their beliefs on "visions" & communications with "Ascended Masters." Biblically speaking, the "Ascended Masters" would be considered demonic spirits preaching "doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1-3).Those wishing to see other debates or theological discussions can go to GOOGLE VIDEO & type "Larry Wessels" in the GOOGLE VIDEO search box & hit enter.

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