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The IndiSlider is a unique piece of production kit. This video is my attempt (I'm no on-camera talent!), to try and share how I use it. I don't mount it the way it's supposed to be mounted, so this is just my way of doing it! I find I get more versatility mounting it this way. Including using it as a 3 foot jib once it's mounted! There are drawbacks, there is a slight tilt as it slides along the path this way, and ground shooting is difficult with the plate stuck on the bottom, but I explain a solution to that!

The Indislider tends to slightly slow down in certain spots along it's path. I find keeping the rails clean really helps. Wipe them down before each use with a lens cloth.

UPDATE: I've removed the 5th braking block from the bottom of the slider, the one with the turn knob on it. This seemed to be causing much of the binding I was experiencing. You need to remove one of the end blocks, then slide the whole plate out, the one that falls loose is the one you want to remove. Give it a try, your mileage may vary!

This is shot in 720p 24fps on an EX1. I show my V1 with a Letus extreme and Zacuto rails being mounted on the slider.

I'm not endorsing in any way this device. I just want to share my experiences with it.

Visit here for a video made with the IndiSlider: vimeo.com/1487027

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  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] plus 1 year ago
    That was fast :) Can't wait...
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  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Had a slow day...lots of rendering for another project, plenty of time to shoot! Just remember, I'm no on camera talent! Plus it's hard to frame, check audio and be in front of the camera all by yourself!
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  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] plus 1 year ago
    Nice. Maybe not an Oscar performance, but not bad at all... :)

    The setup on the IndiSlider website looks much taller than the setup you have with that head of yours. I'm guessing that one would want to keep the camcorder as close to the slider as possible. Is that the head that came with the slider?
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  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Yeah, no Oscars coming my way anytime soon! Yes, that was the head that came with it. I guess you could add your own if you wanted. A 501/503 would probably fit, but I don't have one to try. The screw hole at the bottom is standard thread size.
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  • Brian Boudreau 1 year ago
    Very Informative video.
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  • Sean Seah plus 1 year ago
    Great job! I DIYed something like it n yr video gave me some improvement ideas.
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  • Greg Wallis 1 year ago
    Thanks for making the effort to do that, Paul, it was really interesting and definitely answered some questions. (And you don't present badly, either.)
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  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Thanks! Hope it helps.
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  • Brett Moulton plus 1 year ago
    Paul this awesome!!!....thanks so much for sharing this info!!.....you did a great job .... much respect mate!!
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  • Matt E plus 1 year ago
    Great vid Paul - and very informative. Appreciate you taking the time to put this together. Cheers!
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  • Cool video. How much were those steady bags?
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  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    The steady bags were around $40 at B&H. You can get a bigger one too for closer to $70. One of each might be nice to shoot on REAL unlevel ground. Everyone should have at least one in their kit. It's great to set the camera on to get a shot from almost ANY surface...fences, chairs, car doors, etc.
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  • rick fiduccia plus 1 year ago
    Excellent Paul ! I have an Indieslider and use it the same way you have yours set. The idea of steady bags is brilliant ( just ordered from the B&H) How about smooth slides with all that weight on there? I just can't seem to get it, even tried different lubs on the slider, still it seems to grab a bit as I slide?? Any ideas?? Thanks for a great video!
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Rick,

    My latest thing I've tried is spraying a cloth with "Countertop Magic". It's for cleaning Formica and other Laminates. I then take that cloth and scrub the rails real good and hard. The slider then becomes so silky smooth, it will slide several inches after a gentle push (with no camera on it!). It has improved the sliding 100%.
    That is a high end spray that leaves no residue, if you use something else, your mileage may vary! I just tried this yesterday and went out to shoot just now, it really is MAGIC spray! It was amazing how gummy the rails were with out me even knowing it.
  • rick fiduccia plus 1 year ago
    Thanks Paul ! - looks like Lowes carries it, I will pick some up ASAP and give it a try. I'd really like the IndieSlider if I can solve the sticking issue.
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  • Lonny Quattlebaum plus 1 year ago
    Nice set up. Thanks for sharing.
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  • Conor 1 year ago
    That was really interesting!
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  • filmtriks plus 1 year ago
    Very cool, thanks for uploading.
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  • Adrian B 1 year ago
    Very informative. Thanks!
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  • Kristoffer Jansson 1 year ago
    Where can I buy the slider?
  • Kristoffer Jansson 1 year ago
    Thanks, your footage looks awsome with the slider :)wish I had like 10 meters of slide :D
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  • Martijn Doornenbal 1 year ago
    Thanks, that answered a lot of questions I had about the IndiSlider (still thinking about buying one)...
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  • u bought the slider with head or without it?... so whats the shipping prices...am thinking to buy this one! in a few days
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    SHipping depends on where you live. I got the head. I think the 3' version with the head was around $550.
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  • eladbari 1 year ago
    very Cool, Paul!
    im not anywhere near purchasing anything like this, but i always appreciate ppl that contribute from their hard earned knowledge to others. very nice of you :]

    p.s-i liked that little after effects transition @ 2:30 :]
    u made this?
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Can't claim credit. It's from Digital Juice, one of their Swipes transitions, as was the other one in the video.
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  • vamapaull 1 year ago
    interesting video!
    very useful...
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  • robertanderson plus 1 year ago
    great layout of techniques, but is it just me or does the whole setup look a little wobbly ? even when moving the cam over the slider, it seems to bend when you look at how the lens moves.
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Robert,
    The only reason it's a little wobbly is because of the way I mount it on top of the tripod head. You're supposed to take the head off and hard bolt it to the tripod. Believe me, the slider itself does not bend! It's like an iron girder! I find the slight bend from the head titling sideways is also only apparent when I use the Letus set up on top. A regular small cam like the EX alone, does not cause this to wobble.

    Good eyes!
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  • i luv u dude....great work...

    all the best
    jesus
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  • Evan C. King 1 year ago
    Nice video Paul, really informative!
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  • jose arizaca 1 year ago
    thanks men ! this is a 24" or 36".
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    It's a 36. I think now, I could've gotten away with a 24. Plus it would be more central to the tripod for the weight distribution, especially now with my EX1 and Letus combo.
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  • jose arizaca 1 year ago
    thank you so much paul by the information.
    and i like your the espectacular videos ,greetings from perú!
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  • Rick Godin 1 year ago
    On-camera talent now! Must have been your premiere in Monte Carlo that opened the door. rg
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Lets hope THAT video never makes it to Vimeo!

    ....ahhhh Monte Carlo.... when we going back?!
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  • Rob Q 1 year ago
    very interesting, thanks for sharing!
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  • Jon Rawlinson plus 1 year ago
    I didnt know you could attach the Letus extreme to the V1. Do you need any special parts to do that?

    Great video. Very insightful. I'd like to get an indislider myself!
  • Paul Frederick 1 year ago
    Jon,

    Sorry for the late reply. I didn't see this question before. Yes, You need a step ring. The Letus is 72mm (or 77mm can't quite remember) and you need a 62mm for the V1. I went through Zakuto for purchasing my Letus and they just made it happen. The threading needs to be correct as well. (Outer threads for the 72mm end, inner for the V1 end..) ANyway, to be honest, it has better side to side sharpness on the v1 then the EX!! Even with the EX optimization kit. It's just very sharp with the V1.
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  • Ben Latterell 1 year ago
    thanks paul, appreciate this so much!
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  • Follow Your Nose plus 1 year ago
    Very informative...thanks so much for posting this!
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  • Brandon @ P-Films.com plus 11 months ago
    Very nice Paul! What's the model # of the fluid head you're using on top of the slider? I saw reference to a 501 in the comments and was looking to have a secondary one installed

    I have a 501HDV beneath my slider and was wondering which manfrotto fluid head I could use atop my slider (like you i am a bit concerned about the rig ... monitor, firestore, 35mm adapter w/ flip).

    Any thoughts?!?! Thanks!
  • Paul Frederick 10 months ago
    Sorry for the late response. It's a Velbon Vel-Pro 9. I've never heard of it before but it's the one they send with the indiSlider if you buy the kit. It's too small for a 35mm adapter and an EX1. Actually I think th whole slider can't handle that weight, it's friction based and it just doesn't slide well with lots of weight on it.
  • Brandon @ P-Films.com plus 10 months ago
    Thanks Paul. I ended up going with the glidetrack. Both seem like great products. Since I do most shooting with my 35mm adapter, I may have to upgrade to the HD (heavy duty) version of the glidetrack. Nonetheless, I appreciate the response and your sharing.
  • Dean Yurke plus 7 months ago
    I bought the 36'' kit and have had great results with an HVX plus Brevis and Nikon lenses. It's pretty solid and I love that you can just place it on the ground and you're done. Especially in a forest.

    Paul thanks for your vid, it really helped me come to a decision.
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  • Brotherloose Films 10 months ago
    niCe ONe Paul...TKS :)
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  • Óskar Örn Arnarson 10 months ago
    Would be interesting to see the footage itself.. The camera seems very jerky.
  • Paul Frederick 10 months ago
    Most of that is the conversion VIMEO does to 24p. This was shot at 30p.
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  • Jeffrey Butler plus 10 months ago
    great heads up; hit the ground running as it were...
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  • YetAnotherSteve 10 months ago
    Something I'm sure you have experience with since you mentioned outdoors. What about maintenance and cleaning?

    I shoot around dirt race tracks and have wanted the slide look but have hesitated because of the dust I encounter.

    Any thoughts?
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  • Gerdy Vandermeersch 9 months ago
    Hi Paul,

    Just bought an Indislider and I really like it. Also thanks to your video I bought one. But I've searched on BH for the steady bags and I didn't find them. In the movie you show them and you can see "Steady..." Can you send me the link where you bought them?

    Thanks a lot! Very nice movies, you've made!

    Kind regards
  • Paul Frederick 7 months ago
    Gerdy,

    Any luck finding the bags? They are called STEADYBAGS and I did get them at B&H. Sorry I didn't see this comment sooner.
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  • Karim 9 months ago
    And I thought I was done buying gear... This is my next purchase. Looks fantastic!
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  • Sam Danger Pesce plus 9 months ago
    Great job.. I'm thinking about getting one to mount to the roof of my jeep.
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  • Steve Crow 8 months ago
    I just bought the 36 inch version and am wondering what your experience has been with the noise as the unit slides down the rails...with mine I do hear a friction or scraping sound, not hugely loud but enough that it concerns me.

    I believe I hear the same thing on your video but it's hard to tell for sure.

    I've talked to the manufacturer and they suggested that I first put some WD-40 on the rails and that I take the slider off the tripod, put it one a firm surface and apply about 5-10 lbs of pressure to the "carriage" as I slide it up and down the rails. This is supposed to heat up the plastic and make the unit a bit quieter but I haven't noticed much of a difference.

    What do you hear when you slide the carriage down the rails?
  • Paul Frederick 7 months ago
    You can definitely hear the friction as it slides. I'm not sure if it's the scraping you mentioned. It is after all a friction based slider so there is no gears or wheels, it's all well, sliding!

    Here's a big tip, I removed the braking block on the base of the slider plate. I found it was causing most of the binding problems I've encountered. It's the 5th block with the little knob on it. Try it and see, I think it's alot smoother without it.
  • Steve Crow 7 months ago
    Yeah, friction is more accurate than scraping. Just to be clear, you are suggesting that I remove the little knob and then unscrew the metal bar attached to the 5th block and the one to its left and finally remove the entire 5th block?
    Once I remove the knob and bar does the 5th block simply slide out or do I then also have to loosen some of the four screws that sit just above the blocks (on the bottom of the platform)

    Thanks for responding!
  • Paul Frederick 6 months ago
    Steve,

    Sorry for the delayed response, I didn't get notice about this question. Yes, remove that 5th block and the bar holding it. You'll then have to slide the whole platform off the end (remove end cap) and the block should just fall out, then slide the whole platform back on the rails and you'll see how much smoother it operates!

    Good luck.
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  • Steve Crow 6 months ago
    Hi Paul, I did that but it didn't help so I contacted the manufacturer with a video I made so that they could hear the noise for themselves. They were very helpful and agreed that it sounded like one or more of the remaining blocks had some kind of defect, so they are sending me a new set (they are even giving me an upgraded version which is extra nice) so I am very hopeful that in the next few days I will have this problem solved and can start using this puppy!
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  • Bruce Tritton 6 months ago
    Thanks a bunch for this Paul!

    I have to get a decent tripod first but a slider is something that always sits in the back of your mind as a must have and your info is invaluable.
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  • Lario Tus 6 months ago
    thank you, man
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