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My first commercial shooting on the EX3 with Letus Extreme and Nikkor 24mm to 85mm. The perfect cam for me. Pulling focus is easy with the colored peaking.

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  • Perfect-Day Images plus 1 year ago
    What export settings did you use because the quality looks amazing?
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Hi Chris, It's not just the export. It depends on the right aspect too. Therefore:

    1. Convert to 1280 x 720 progressive (30p or 25p) if it's not shot already in this format (just make sure it's not interlaced anymore)
    2. Export as h264 with 7000 kbps maximum

    That's it
  • misterserialkiller plus 10 months ago
    hey there, i exported my footage and it came out very choppy. i used the 1280x720p settings. might it be my video card? playback is fine, it's just choppy when exported. what am i doing wrong?
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 10 months ago
    Show me your export, and I may help, maybe.
  • misterserialkiller plus 10 months ago
    hey, i figured it out. everything's working great! i've uploaded them to my account. thx for your help, it helped out big time!
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  • Perfect-Day Images plus 1 year ago
    Well what about when I shoot 1920/1080 30p?
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  • Perfect-Day Images plus 1 year ago
    Ok so I'm confused...do you export an mpeg4 h264, or a quicktime h264? Explain how you exported this movie, and would it essentially be the same for a 1080 project file? Thanks for the help!
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Don't be confused. There is no difference between mpeg4 h264 and "Quicktime" h264. Quicktime is just a program not a compression format. Whenever you export a "Quicktime h264" it will be a mpeg4 h264. So don't care about that. Actually the format itself is not the key to good quality - the conversion and the image are.

    The video above was shot in 1920 x 1080i50 PAL-format. The easiest way (not the best one, but the one I use) is to drop the original Final Cut cut sequence (the whole sequence not just the clips inside) in a new 1280 x72030p Sequence (Preset: XDCAM EX 720p30), render it completely, export it as it is as Quicktime and then convert it to h264 with the 7000 kbit limit in Quicktime Player, Compressor, or any other tool you like.

    This is because Final Cut Pro does quite a good job in resizing and de-interlacing (when needed).

    If I look at your films I guess I know why you ask these questions. Let me assure you, that even if you do everything as explained above, your films won't look as crisp as this one here. You probably won't be able avoid all compression artifacts in the stream, because of the rich and detailed backgrounds and elements. Here we have a very clean surrounding (the elevator), almost no camera movement and hard cuts. This is the most easiest thing for compressing.

    Problems always appear on leaves (a lot of moving, fuzzy lines and colors) detailed backgrounds (especially at the edges of the frame), slow dissolves (all pixels changing in every frame) and camera movement (tilt, shift, zoom or handheld). It's just not possible to do the same image quality on a compressed image as in the original. Otherwise the original would be compresses already.

    Hope this helps a little bit.
  • Marko Visual 1 year ago
    Hi Stefan, read your process, do you do this after cutting and any CC you do in FCP (last step before going to post) or do you do this before you start cutting?
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    No way before cutting. That would be hell. Think about converting minutes and hours of footage before cutting. No, no, that's just the very last step before posting to Vimeo. And only to Vimeo. Videos converted this way, can't be used for any other purpose (except for personal presentation on a laptop).
  • Marko Visual 1 year ago
    Ah, ok, I was wondering if you meant for online or for post work or dvd. Just making sure.
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  • Perfect-Day Images plus 1 year ago
    Thanks so much for that information. Yea, yours looks like you shot it with an $85,000 HD Cam. Will keep that in mind!
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  • Håvar Karlsen plus 1 year ago
    great look! Thinking very hard about getting this setup myself, since I have access to alot of Nikon lenses. These were standard Nikkor lenses, intended for still photography originally?
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Hi, Håvar
    Yepp, standard Nikon AIs for analog still photography. The one thing you have to make sure is, the lenses should be quite tight otherwise you always have some "shakies" while pulling focus.
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  • Pylon Film 1 year ago
    Do you use the native lense between camera and adapter?
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    yes, there is no other solution so far.
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  • Wolfgang Gaebler plus 1 year ago
    Luschdig... ;-)
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  • Martin Tadilli 1 year ago
    hi stefan,really nice work,also the choice of the actor really cool,
    there is a big difference with the ex1 and ex3?
    ciao
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Hey, Martin, thanks. The actor is Manuel Kühne from Lucerne, Switzerland. He's really cool and very good.
    There is no "big" difference between EX1 and EX3. In fact it's the same camera. Exept for the viewfinder and the build. What I love about the EX3 is the viewfinder with the colored peaking. Therewith it's absolutely possible to do serious focus pulling without a HD-monitor aside, even with the LetusExtreme attached. Actually I don't shoot without the Letus at all. Even documentary stuff with kids is well possible.
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  • Sylvain Bourjac plus 1 year ago
    realy clean. the actor is realy funy
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  • Olivier Pereda 1 year ago
    very cooll! good idea!
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  • Shane Ruggieri 1 year ago
    So can you use the Nikon's without the 35mm adapter or will they pop right on?
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    you need the adaptor
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  • Joseph Palmario plus 1 year ago
    I just can't stop going back to this video ... I'ts just too good! I'm still impressed! I can't believe this is shot with the same camera I got! I'm setting a goal to achieve this kind of quality work ... I hope to learn from you ...
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Thank you, Joseph. I watched Your video with the karate boy. I guess two things could help. First of all: light!!! Doing camera is 80% doing light. Either with lamps or better location, just do something. Second: lenses. The canon lens you use is probably very soft. Get some good lenses from ebay or your local dealer. Take old Nikons to start. Watch for Nikkor AIs prime lenses with f-stops not below 2.4. You should be able to get them for about $50 (that's what the lenses cost I use).
    Third: stay in wide angle whenever possible. Otherwise (with 135mm) the DOF is just too shallow.
  • Joseph Palmario plus 1 year ago
    Thanks for the comments Stefan, greatly appreciated. I'll probably switch to Nikon lenses since they're really inexpensive. I was thinking of getting the EF lenses with 1.8f but I think I'll just go to the lesser expensive types for now. Thanks again Stefan ...
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  • Lukasz Chowaniec 1 year ago
    I'm going to buy ex1 but I'm not sure if its the best choice. I'm considering buing ex3, mainly because of ablity to change lenses (dslr nikon lenses). I heard a lot about letus adapters but in fact I dont now what main profits it gives me. You wrote that you use letus almost permanently - why ? :)
    Is something more beside ablity to change lenses ?

    ... and one more: can I use my nikkor lenses with ex3 without any problems? Does evrything works propely ?
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    No, you can't use your lenses without an adapter. And you can't use your digital lenses. You need old style, manual lenses with f-stop ring and no autofocus. Nikkor AIs or so. The lens change thing is not the big deal about the EX3. It's more the Viewfinder which is much better and the general design.
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  • steven fernandez 1 year ago
    How is the 24p or film look in this camera?
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Sorry for the late answer, I'm in Japan these days...
    I never used it, why should I ;-)

    No, really I never had the need for, sorry
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  • Jason Wiley 1 year ago
    thank you stefan, quality video and thanks for all the info.
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  • j. youngblood 1 year ago
    looks gorgeous...and good info. thx.
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  • Peter Baker 1 year ago
    have you had any problems with the Letus Extreme? I've heard it's not very well made and malfunctions often. The Ultimate is about 4 times the cost but seems a little more robust and apparently has glass rather than plastic.
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  • Peter Baker 1 year ago
    and i'm really impressed with your work, btw.
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  • Peter Baker 1 year ago
    A couple more questions:
    i) is that a real elevator or a set?
    ii) what did you use lighting wise?

    I'm really impressed by how sharp this looks at full screen size, much crisper than images i've seen using the same equipment. It cuts together beautifully, your variation in shot size, framing and focal length works wonderfully well. Particularly love the close up at around 2mins and 2 mins 10 secs. Fantastic!
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Hey, Peter, nice to have you here.
    So, one comment after the other:

    No, i hadn't any problems with the Letus Extreme. But I have to confirm, the equipment is definitely not rock solid. I'm not sure if I would go on a long outback production with just one LEs.

    Thanks for the comment

    i) it's a set. We built it within our small studio. Just 8 aluminum panels (made by the plummer), two rails from the hardware store, a peace of carpet, some wood, and a demo panel from the elevator builders showroom.

    ii) that's the best question so far!!! (wondered already, why nobody cares).

    I took 24 30W fluorescent lamps Osram Biolux FLH1 (Colour temperature 6500 K Colour rendering group 1A Colour rendering index Ra › 90 Light colour 965 Luminous flux 1600 lm) and rigged them up on a wooden square. Then we built the whole elevator ceiling with the lamp rigs. Finaly we added a neutral frost (1f-stop) underneath the lamp rig in the rear of the elevator. That's it. No konoflo or so, just (used) tubulars with standard starters.

    For the face we used a reflector in the close ups.

    (Btw: I'm testing compact fluorescent lamps in a transportable box. Beautiful light (5500k) and almost no energy needed. Ideal for indoor shooting in apartments (4000 W of light on an common household plug - GREAT. I'll show some examples here in the next few days.)

    Concerning the sharpness: I guess most examples we see here on Vimeo are not sharp because the users just don't know how to deal with 35mm lenses.

    I guess:
    30% is just out of focus (get a proper monitor, use PMW-EX3 or practice)
    20% wrong f-stop (always to much DOF)
    20% wrong lenses (zoom lenses never reach that crisp focus if they don't cost a lot) or to long lenses (35mm is a good lens for almost everything.
    10% lousy light
    10% setup problems like back focus, no sharpness on the ground glass, tilted lenses, way to much zoomed in or f-stops below 5,6.
    10% fucked up in compression

    Thanks again (the close up is made with an old 24mm nikkor, the actor was about 15 cm away.
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  • Peter Baker 1 year ago
    That would be the 24mm you're holding up to your eye? I like this marriage of the old and the new. Have been lusting after P & S Technik's Pro 35 adaptor for this camera, it's such a sexy looking beast. Good to know such crisp results can be had from a far less expensive piece of gear. Thankyou for all that detailed information, Stefan, i look forward to seeing your next adventures with light and lenses.
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    right, that's the one i used. It's old, its shaky a bit, but stopped down one or two stops it produces beautiful crisp images.
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  • Olivier David 1 year ago
    Really really nice job !
    and thank you for all these informations about lighting and dof !
    I will try to do the same quality of work than you.
    Thanks again for all.
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 1 year ago
    Thank you and go for it.
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  • Damian Moon 11 months ago
    Hi Stefan, congrats on your comertial, excelent work. Now i'm convinced more that before to buy the Sony Ex3. I have a few questions if i may.

    Do you think the Ex3 is a good camera for low budget shortfilms?( i'm a student of Film making here in Argentina, by the way, if one day you come here let me know i can give you a good tour around.)

    What do you recomend me to pay more atention to a short film with half take outside and the other 1/2 indoor??

    I know this questions sound kind of lame. But again i will be very thankfull for you atenttion.

    Thanks for all. Nice coments.
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  • Damian Moon 11 months ago
    sorry i have 1 more quistion.

    This comertial, you saved the info into the SXS memory? If this is true, you didn have problem with the quality when compresing? and what thas mean export with "h264'? thanks again for the time.
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  • Stefan Gilgen plus 11 months ago
    Hi Damian, I don't know whether the EX3 is a good camera FOR YOU for shorts. Depends a lot of your style. If you want to do something filmlike, the EX3 is only good with 35mm adapter.

    "What do you recomend me to pay more atention to a short film with half take outside and the other 1/2 indoor??" Sorry I didn't get this... please repeat a bit more specific.

    And to the other question: yes it was sored on SXS card. Imported into Final Cut Pro and exported as Quicktime with h264 codec.
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  • bunkofurko 10 months ago
    World's most boring commercial spot. DEFINITELY WILL NOT SHOW AT THE 2010 SUPER BOWL BROADCAST, GUARANTEED!!!

    But the camer has potentials... ;-))
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 7 months ago
    Agree
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  • chung, kangwha plus 9 months ago
    Wonderful Job!!
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 7 months ago
    Thanks!
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  • Dagger Films plus 9 months ago
    Hi Stefan,

    Nice work.

    You mentioned that you shot this in 1080i50.

    I'm also an EX3 owner now, but I'm still trying to get my head around the choice of these HD video formats... can you explain why you (or anyone) would choose to shoot interlaced instead of progressive? Certainly progressive offers a superior result, no?

    Is it because this project was destined for interlaced TV broadcast? Should I then only shoot progressive for the Web (or film transfer)?
  • Stefan Gilgen plus 7 months ago
    Hi Edward, sorry about the late answer. I was around the globe a bit. You are right. progressive is much better. Until then I shoot everything prog. Even for TV broadcast.
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  • Jaime Chévere plus 18 days ago
    Great result. You are a great!
    Do you use any Picture Profile in the EX3?
    Thanks
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