Rolling shutter comparison, Canon 5D mark II vs Panasonic Lumix GH2 @ identical panning speed, shutter roll, jello effect on Vimeo

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Brian Swichkow 1 year ago

You can definitely see it, but I wonder if it's noticeable when you aren't looking for it.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

for the most part I am sure it doesn't matter, jello is never a problem in my shoots, but situations like a fast car chase or a train going by at high speed for example, one will def notice it.
Daniel Soderberg 1 year ago

Rolling shutter really sucks because it makes final cut's smoothcam/steadicam filter (BCC's optical stabilizer) useless. If you've tried stabilizing shaky shots from these DSLRs with this kind of filter, then you know what I'm talking about. Basically when you take away the unsteady shake of the shot, all you are left with is objects that squish and unsquish like jello for no reason.
Thanks for the comparison, looks like the GH2 isn't much better.
Augusto Alves da Silva 11 months ago

Check imovie rolling shutter correction...It works great
Brian Swichkow 1 year ago

Yea, or if you're shooting the prop on a plane. There are a very limited number of shoots (for me) that would make the rolling shutter an actually issue.
33hirtz 1 year ago

A very effective comparison Mike. Thanks for going to the trouble of doing it.

Happy New Year!!!

:-)
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks Martin, Happy New Year!
Tony Carretti 1 year ago

Mike,

Thanks so much for the test. They look very similar to me. As an aside, I like the picture from the GH2 a little better.... maybe because I just got mine... :))
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

:d
Calin Manescu 1 year ago

Thank you Mike for sharing with us!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

no prob, Happy New Year, Calin
planetMitch 1 year ago

Thanks for posting Mike! We've picked it up for the blog - blog.planet5d.com/4sa
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

hey Mitch, that's awesome, thank you! Happy New Year!
Abbas Toumert 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing this test.
There is some jello in both cameras. Like you said in your blog, very few scenarii need some shots like "Jason Bourne trilogy". Did you use the OIS lens in this test ? By the way some soft like Mercalli from prodad reduce the jello effect.

Happy new Year, Mike ! Peace
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

Happy New Year, Abbas!, nope, my fav lenses, the Nokton on the GH2 and L 50mm on the Canon.
James Drake 1 year ago

thanks for the post! been waiting to see something informative like this!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

you are welcome, James
Mario Rodriguez 1 year ago

Little improvement in rolling shutter.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

looks all the same to me, unless its a CCD
Carey Dissmore 1 year ago

thanks for confirming that in terms of rolling shutter, neither has enough difference to lift them from the "THAT SUCKS" category. (LOL my 60D does it too)
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

haha, true, looks like all those large sensor CMOS cameras are stuck in the mud re jello, maybe something revolutionary in the next generation, wouldn't hold my breath though
iamkalaniprince 1 year ago

nice test, thanks : )
Erem Şentürk 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing this test. Been waiting to see something informative like this!
Pier Bedard 1 year ago

Très bon, merci pour le test et bonne année.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

merci, bonne annee!
Rick Macomber 1 year ago

thanks Mike. Overall... which would you now say is the better camera?
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

not sure on is overall better then the other, the right tool for the right task....
SMS ( SM. Shahrokni ) 1 year ago

Hey Mike happy new year
Nice job
the GH2 is the winner!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

happy new year to you too, SMS!
Nazmi Yılmaz 1 year ago

I always loved panasonic :)
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

I love girls :)
Bridges Cinema 1 year ago

Very good!! What do you think of the new panisonic ag-Af 100?
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks Will, looks very promising, will def test it out once I get my hands on one...
Caleb Vinson 1 year ago

Thank you for this one Mike!! Very informative!!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

:D no problem, Caleb!
Howard A Phillips 1 year ago

Excellent posting, thanks. I am finding some really shocking interlace problems once activating the 'red button' all-auto (sorry I don't have the camera or the manual under hand, just spent a couple hours with it a couple days ago), which only seem to occur with that iQ (?) or 'red button override' button...have you seen his? Its very noticeable looks a whole lot like incorrect pulldown looks like in Quicktime...I tried different pulldown algorithms in fcp, will try in Avid next where at least I know the system is predictable/repeatable as far as the pulldown measures go.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

hmmm, not sure, I haven't used the red button yet...
Agnes Aviiki 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing Mike! Although I'm quite shock with the Canon's performance in terms of rolling shutter, but i don't feel proud with my PL either :) LOL.

Happy New Year, Mike!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

lol, I was surprised the pany isn't any better :D
Joe Kawasaki 1 year ago

Great post. Nice to see the side by side comp. Thanks a bunch Mike. Always a treat. Happy New Year!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

happy new year to you too, Joe!
Marcus Richter 1 year ago

Hallo Mike. Gesundes neues Jahr. Ist die Pana der Canon wirklich überlegen? In meinen Augen nimmt sich das nicht viel.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

Hey Marcus, danke, dir auch! gleichmassig schwach, kein vorteil
Kostas Petsas 1 year ago

I expected to see a big difference between the two cameras. I thought the Panasonics had less rolling shutter. But then, this test proves that they equally suffer from this.
Thankfully not a big problem in most "normal" situations.
Do you really think that overall the GH2 is a direct 5dII competitor? I would rather consider this as an alternative to the APS-C EOS bodies.
Happy new year.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

different tools for different task, I find they complement ea other very well
Martijn Doornenbal 1 year ago

Ok, I didn't see any difference, but what about moire?
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

didn't test moire yet, but it sure looks like the gh2 will be the winner
Alex 1 year ago

GREAT JOB Mike!!!
Can you tell us what lens on 5d2 and gh2?

looks like EF 24 1.4 AND 25mm on gh2
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks Alex, L 50mm on Canon, Nokton 25mm on GH2. The Gh2 was mounted on top of the 5D which caused a slightly different point of view.
Erick Flores Garnelo 1 year ago

really this panasonic seems amazing. All the new technology that is coming like the pentax or nikon cameras are amazing too.
Paul Hamilton 1 year ago

I don't think the traffic below appreciated the rolling shutter either!
DaVincicode 1 year ago

Hey Mike ISO 160 is not a good setting for the 5D2. With that being said, there are limitations with the HDSLRs. Slow pans are required. But from your work I can tell you know the tricks to make things look good with both cameras.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

yeah, we know what these cams are capable of, however it is just as important to remember their weaknesses.....
James Spencer 1 year ago

Nice comparison Mike, that GH2 is producing nice punchy video.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks James
Anjelkam 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing. I admire your works, good lights.
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thank you, Anjelkam!
Théo Alexander Clark 1 year ago

Interesting, thanks for posting!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

no prob Theo
Olivia Speranza 1 year ago

Thanks for the comparison, these are hard to come by! Super informative
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks Olivia
|||CharlyDeeCynthius||| 1 year ago

Cool vid here too!!!
Mike Kobal 1 year ago

thanks Charly
Mike Cazz 1 year ago

Informative? No one should be doing whip pans anyway. Yes the GH2 is better at whip pans, so what? The more interesting thing is just how much better the video quality is on the GH2 in this clip. The GH1 was a hidden gem amongst all the Canon news but clearly the GH2 has left Canon needing to really step up their game. The 5dM3 or whatever is next may be great, but it will come at a very inflated cost. The GH13 and GH2 have been the quiet hot ticket for years.
Derrick Gibbs 5 months ago

So the GH2 really is better than the Canon cameras?
Nicola De Prato 4 months ago

Nice Flat
Maíra Soares 4 months ago

but the quality of the lens it's the same?