This is a very cool workaround to edit 5D Mark II footage natively in Final Cut Pro using MPEG Streamclip (squared5.com) to convert the original footage to XDCAM EX.

(Note: Please ignore the dropped frame dialogue box at the end of the video after the file was converted and played on the timeline. That was caused due to the screen capture software and not the converted XDCAM EX format.)


As always, please let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns!

-Tyler
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  • Edy 1 year ago
    Hey! Nice tutorial...
    Thanks.
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  • terje 1 year ago
    Thanks Tyler, that´s a great tutorial.

    Getting mine on Monday, and I was looking for a way to optimize editing work flow. :-)
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  • MPEG streamclip is probably the coolest free app for mac out there. I've been using it for years. I still can't believe it's still freeware, and they keep adding features!
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  • Stiffensan 1 year ago
    Thanks!

    Do you have tips for PC users? We found that PC handling MOV is a pain in the axx. Come to rendering part, is it better to use Quicktime pro? We are using Video Studio which is decent but struggling handling MOV.
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 1 year ago
    Stiffensan, I'll look into it but MPEG streamclip is also available for Windows and you could use the same workflow. Does Video Studio export as H.264 Quicktime? You want to compress in Quicktime if you can and not MPEG! Thanks!
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  • Marco S. 1 year ago
    thanks !
    I'm desperatly looking for a similar workflow on PC and After Effects. Any Sugestion is highly appreciated !!
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  • great tyler.....I was getting crazy....now I'll test it on my fcp and let you know....
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  • Andrée Markefors 1 year ago
    It's a very nice tutorial for achieving what you set out to do.

    But, and correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not familiar with XDCAM EX, isn't that XDCAM also a 'group of pictures' codec? That is... you end up with few frames that contain all image information and intermediate incomplete frames that are produced mathematically.

    The point of an intermediate format is to convert the captured footage into a format consisting of only complete frames, and preferrably with good color handling- at least 4:2:2 or better yet 4:4:4.

    This is the reason that intermediate files tend to grow large. This is normally not a problem on a workstation however since hard drives are cheap. Newer wavelet codecs like Cinefrom also keep file sizes pretty small.

    But like I said: a good and to the point tutorial. If HD space is a problem and native files can't be edited I'm sure many will be happy to follow your suggestion!
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  • ...hi tyler...a question....what sort of output file do you export in order to lose less quality as possible?...
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 1 year ago
    Andrée, you are absolutely right and to get the very best quality your best bet is to stick with pro res. This is just another workflow for those who want to save hard drive space and perform a faster render. It all depends on what your final output is and what you intend to use the footage for until computers catch up to these hard to edit compressions like AVCHD and the H.264 coming off this camera. Hopefully soon enough we skip the compressions and be able to shoot our video RAW like RED. Thanks for watching :)
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 1 year ago
    francesco, please watch this tutorial to learn how to compress out of final cut pro: vimeo.com/2004126
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  • Richie C 11 months ago
    Windows user here. I dont seem to have the XDCAM EX option for conversion. Is this a codec I can download? Sorry I'm a total newb.
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 11 months ago
    Ran into this problem with somebody else. Figured out that you must have FCP in order to get that preset. As a result we found out that the Apple Intermediate Codec Preset worked perfect and it was actually quicker. Select that setting and then do everything else the same. Hope that helps, let me know!
  • Richie C 11 months ago
    I have a feeling the Apple Intermediate Codec might be another Mac only option. Perhaps installs from imovie? Unfortunately I do not see the AIC option in windows. Am I missing something? Any other ideas?

    Thanks!
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  • Geoff Bardot 11 months ago
    AIC is apple only. It is an editing only format. Not a delivery one. You dont want to use iMovie. You would want Final Cut Express and a Mac to get AIC or if you can afford it Final Cut Pro and Pro Res 422 would be your best option to allow you to run it through good color correction software. The key is to get it out of the compressed format. You could always try HDV, not a great format but easier to handle then h.264
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  • Richie C 11 months ago
    Hey Tyler,

    Just checking in to see if you heard of any solutions for US poor windows users.

    Thanks.
  • Tyler Ginter plus 11 months ago
    Hey Rich, Sorry for the delay. What editing system are you using on the PC. I've test Premiere and all you have to do is render the timeline and you're good to go!
  • Richie C 11 months ago
    Thanks for the response Tyler. I am a Vegas user. Still hoping to get it to work. I really like your streamclip method, but am looking for a good codec for windows. So far i think cineform (included in vegas i think) seems ok but I'm still investigating other options.

    I downloaded the CS4 demo last night. I could not find any project settings to match my 5d files. I need to find a good tutorial on how to use it.
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 11 months ago
    In CS4 use the XDCAM EX 1080P 30P (HQ) project setting and import your RAW clips and drop them into the timeline. Render your timeline (Sequence - Render Entire Work Area). Takes about the same time as MPEG Streamclip rendering and then you'll be ready to edit real time! :)
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  • sabri plus 11 months ago
    Hi Tyler,
    i don´t have a Xdcam project setting in CS4. Can you or someone else tell me the settings.
    thank you
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  • Nathan Thompson 11 months ago
    Just want to say thank you for taking the time to put this together. Just bought my new Mac Pro rig today to get my feet wet.

    What the app next to the recycle bin??? (skull & crossbones)
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  • Daniel Y 11 months ago
    Hi Tyler,

    Great tutorial. I'm still using FCP 5 so I don't have pro-res capability. Do you think the quality is better transcoding to XDCAM EX or Apple Intermediate Codec?
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  • Nathan Thompson 11 months ago
    Where did he go?
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  • Tyler Ginter plus 11 months ago
    Sorry guys! XDCAM EX for smaller files and Apple Intermediate Codec for 0 compression. Both are fine, just depends on your workflow. XDCAM EX just compresses a tiny bit more than AIC.

    As for the scull and crossbones, that's just a custom icon for my Downloads Folder Stack :)

    Thanks for the support guys, hope it helped!
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  • Wasim Ahmad 11 months ago
    Thank you so much! This video was very helpful!
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  • Gene Fama plus 10 months ago
    Thanks Tyler—super helpful and well-made. And thanks for your service!
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  • Giorgio Rossi 10 months ago
    Hi and thank you so much for your video.

    I'm trying to convert 5d footage and use it with FCE ... using Apple Intermediate Codec i've noticed a little changing in colors (they seems a bit darker than before) ... am I doing something wrong with MPEG streampclip?
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  • Dan Dobi 10 months ago
    Thank you !!!
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  • Steven M. 10 months ago
    Got the camera, used your tutorial for editing. Thanks.
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  • Justin Cary plus 10 months ago
    Killer tutorial man. Exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks for the help, now it's time to edit some footage!
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  • David Robin plus 10 months ago
    Thanks Tyler. BIG HELP!!!!
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  • Hi Tyler,

    Thanks for the tip since I was converting to ProRes and the files are much larger. I do use Streamclip since it batches and is very fast.

    I was wondering why you are choosing 30p when 60i seems to be the best setting on the EX1 and where we have it set on the EX1

    -G
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  • Jason Linn 9 months ago
    much appreciated man!
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  • Flaming Bears 8 months ago
    Hi Tyler

    Im editing in XDCAM to save storage space and because H.264 just doesnt work editing wise on my macbook pro 2.4ghz. Im doing a big project and I wonder once the film is all cut in XDCAM can I then somehow get the H.264 files back into FCP in edited form, output to color, do my color corection and then send back to fcp in prores? I have to edit in xdcam but once that is done I want to output the project in the best possible quality. How do I do this?

    Thanks Bjorn
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  • Guilherme Meneghelli plus 7 months ago
    Very good!!! :)
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  • Sean Duran 5 months ago
    Exactly what I needed! I shoot with an EX1 and a Mark II :)
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  • Sean Duran 5 months ago
    Okay, actually, I can't get it to work. There's no XDCAM option in MPEG Streamclip (I'm using the PC version) :(
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