
Norman?
1 year ago
A light hearted film Written by Ray Ford and which I directed after a short film making course I attended this time last year. The course was seven Saturdays from September through October.
Filming was all done on one day which shows somewhat and with a budget of next to nothing. I guess all in all, it was a fun experience.
Thanks to everyone at First Take Liverpool and everyone in the making of 'Norman?'
Warning, contains some bad language.
Filming was all done on one day which shows somewhat and with a budget of next to nothing. I guess all in all, it was a fun experience.
Thanks to everyone at First Take Liverpool and everyone in the making of 'Norman?'
Warning, contains some bad language.
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Cheers Greg. If you want to do something like this yourself, get in touch with the local Am Drams and get something written, they love to do films, trust me!
(And I think this short is better than maybe you think it is. Don't talk it down, it's really rather good.)
I've been involved in amateur theatre for twenty years or more and they're a friendly bunch and like to show off so getting them interested in doing a short is easy. It's winter show season so you could go along to a few plays/shows and note some names of good actors from the programme.
You can usually find them in the bar later, that much you can count on.
Great stuff again. Well, I got my HD7 and was wondering what settings in Visualhub you use (MPEG-2?) to convert .MOD to .MOV for use in FCP. If I use MPEG-2 (not the 1080i preset), I can import in FCP but I need to render the video (orange line on timeline).
Any help is appreciated!
I use MPEG streamclip and have just been experimenting with Apple HDV1080i50 at 1920x1080 and the file sizes are roughly similar to the TODs and pretty damn good quality.
Steve Mullen's HD7 Handbook is a pretty good companion to this camera. You can download it here
home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c/GZ-HD7.htm
and there's a good forum here with loads of help for everyone.
dvinfo.net/conf/mpg2-jvc-everio-gz-hd-series/
Steve Mullen recommended Apple INtermediate Codec at 1440x1080 but it makes huge files and I can't see any better quality myself
Thanks. I tried the QT -> Apple Intermediate Codec route and it works, but the files are getting quite large as you said.
I will try the HDV1080i50 later today. Hopefully the transcoding is relatively fast on my quadcore.
Yes, I registered at that forum, but it doesn't allow me to start a new thread. Also it seems that everybody is 'keeping the secret for themselves' on how to work with HD7 in FCP.
Anyway, I will start experimenting away with my new cam. So far the only issue is importing files. For the rest this seems like a top of the line consumer cam!
I just tried MPEG Streamclip and out put to HDV1080i60 (NTSC). If I do 'Get Info' on the resulting .mov, it says it is 1920x1080. However, when I import to FCP, it seems to be interpreted as 1440x1080i (Item Properties->Format).
Any idea? Good thing is the conversion time isn't too bad and requires no rendering in FCP. Bad thing is, I really would like to see the full HD of this cam...
I'm fairly new to all this video malarkey myself and what I've discovered in my learning of the past year or so is that there's much more to it than just the file size, sensor size has more to do with image quality/resolution than file size and the quality of your lenses too. The only way to see best quality out of the cam is to stick an HDMI lead into an HD TV. Everything else is a compromise of file size/quality. You can work in great high quality codecs like Apple ProRes422 HQ but your file sizes would be ten times the size of HDV nearly and your hardware wouldn't be able to cope probably and then you'd still have to compress it quite a bit to get something you could use in the real world (ie uploading to vimeo)
I personally don't see any difference between the 1440 and the 1920. Steve Mullen, a chap who studies these kinds of things agrees but says that the diagonals are perhaps ever so slightly sharper at 1920. You really should download/buy his eBook, there's no secret to using the TOD files in FCP you either copy to your hard drive and convert them into somthing useable (1080i50/60) or whatever, or film in 1440CBR, make a playlist in the cam then 'capture' the footage as HDV like you would if you had a tape based HDV camera like a SONY A1. There is another way that STeve explains in his book that uses iMovie 08, but I haven't tried that because I don't have iMovie 08.
So, top and bottom of it is, don't sweat the 1920 or 1440 thing, the camera is excellent for a consumer camera especially in Manual mode, and so long as you are getting great pics, it doesn't matter what size the files are. In some ways, larger files just make problems for you.
Would it be easer if JVC had opted for a standard MPEG format? YES of course, but they went for a higher bitrate/better quality resolution with less compression on the file, which I think makes this a great little camera.
There are 'easy setups' for the JVC Everio for FCP somewhere on the net but I can't remember where. If I find it, I'll post the URL. These become available in your easy setups menu in FCP. They may help.
In fact I have the files here if you want to send me your email address, I'll just fling em over to you.
Hope all this helps
Avey
Thanks for this info! I agree, in the end its the resulting image that counts, not the filesize, codec pixels etc. (of course, they are part of the mix and as you said, it can make your work difficult).
I tried the ProRes HQ and indeed, filesizes go 10x, but I have quite some GB and GHz to spare and I can work nicely with them on the FCP timeline.
I came to the conclusion (preliminary, after 1 day of playing) that any MPEG compression needs a render on the FCP timeline. MPEGStreamclip "Convert to MPEG" option is very fast, resulting file is high quality (at first sight) and imports well in FCP, but it needs rendering all the way along.
I still have to try the 1440CBR L&T option in FCP and will compare final out with FHD, but my feeling is that there would be hardly a difference.
I already found those presets, I believe they are all based on HDV and or AIC, both requiring rendering up to 1.5x real time. This is doable and in fact I have been working with RED footage lately and to be honest although HD7 / FCP is a pain, I prefer it over the RED workflow (which also seems to be in a continuos state of flux).
Thanks a lot for your help, one thing is for sure, this is a great cam but the workflow could have been easier if JVC was more considerate for their Apple customers!
Now I will focus on getting some nice footage.
Just one thing from what you write above is that when I stick a file on the timeline for the first time, if my sequence isn't set with the same codec, it asks me if I want to 'change the sequence settings to match the clip' I always say yes usually as this negates the need for rendering and can make a quick and dirty edit very easy to do.
Here, I can use the ProRes 422 Codec with my MacBook Pro 233 attached to a fast FW800 Terrabyte hard drive, but when it comes to using Magic Bullet Looks for grading, it just won't play. Says I haven't enough resources. poo. Otherwise I'd use it all the time from 1920 footage ProRes422 is recommended in another cool eBook I bought called 'The HD Survival Handbook' by Philip Hodgetts. He says it takes grading well, unlike HDV. Well, since I haven't enough resources, i doubt I'll be able to find out.
Look forward to seeing your stuff SB.
Yes, also I have to pre-render most Bullet looks for them to play at realtime. This is because most of those filters require a lot of processing and even a quadcore isn't up to do that real time. You should be able to see individual frames aren't you (place the playhead and just wait until it renders that frame). Normally, I do the grading just prior to render out, after picture lock.
Well done!
I didn't see any "bad" shots.
There used to be a show on over here called "eat carpet" - a selection of weird and whacky short films.
I used to love watching it!
Unfortunately it's not been aired for a long time.
I was the cameraman on two others of the five that were produced. I think I enjoyed that more than the directing.