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1. FilmConvert - Digital vs Film comparison

6 months ago

Comparison between:

- Kodak Vision 3 250D film
- Red One MX Digital Camera
- Red One MX with FilmConvert Software applied

View full screen to see the grain in it's full glory.

More info at FilmConvert.com

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GASPAR 6 months ago

Fantastic!
Robert Ruffo 6 months ago

Yummy!
Film Convert 6 months ago

Glad you like it :)
Karen Abad 4 months ago

I can't wait for the 7D version.
Luis Otero 5 months ago

Got it, and loving it soooo much!
John Palaganas 5 months ago

Great! Would love to see how DSLR footage can hold up with FilmConvert.
john stanford 5 months ago

i think you will see that very soon :)
SloMoments 2 months ago

check this....

vimeo.com/24334733
Minjenmin Yip 5 months ago

Awesome!! questions. did you apply Film Convert to the footage straight out from the camera with no color grading?
same lenses on both cameras?
I'd like to see reversal, Tungsten stocks looks and Fuji.
Film Convert 5 months ago

That's correct, the same and no grading, apart from a viewing LUT applied to both the film and the FilmConvert. This is the exact look that you get out of FilmConvert.

All those 3 stock types you mentioned are coming soon, and some surprises :)
Mithun DSouza 5 months ago

That looks pretty neat.
But one question here, all the examples of the RED One MX Footage look like they are processed to RedLogFilm + RedColor2 and not a linear viewing space like the Kodak.

Any reason you wouldnt grade that down to look the same? I understand the grain simulation bit, but the gamma?
Film Convert 5 months ago

Hi Mithun,

In terms of color, we render the R3d internally to redcolor2. This was based on advice from Graeme, and is supposed to be future proof with changes coming to Epic.

The Gamma is redgamma2 - also the recommended gamma. IT does look different to our print LUT, and for this reason we are allowing people to render without this LUT applied. This should be in the next release.
Mithun DSouza 5 months ago

Ahh sweet.
I was wondering about that one.
Having the ability to output minus the LUT makes a lot of sense cause then the user decides if he/she wants to have the gamma embedded or otherwise.
Even allowing a nifty drop down to choose the colorspace/gammaspace before your LUT+GrainMgmt kicks in might be a great idea for RED/Alexa RAW/Phantom Cine footage.

Also, it helps post facilities with a calibrated LUT end up using FilmConvert as a stepping stone to achieving the desired result in DI.

Great tool btw guys.
Will keep an eye out closely on this one.
Cheers
Mathias Tegtmeier 5 months ago

Looks great. However the blacks in the film seems a bit more black and the skintones produced by Red seems a bit more red. The film looks best but the Red footage is very close to it.
Film Convert 5 months ago

Thanks :)
Gavin Hawk 5 months ago

That is truly amazing. I'm so excited to get the Scarlet and this program and shoot some stuff!

Obviously this is a hard question to answer, since final specs aren't out yet on the Scarlet, but do you anticipate any issues using FilmConvert with a Scarlet workflow?
nigel john stanford 5 months ago

As long as Scarlet is putting out R3D, it will work fine :)
Macgregor 4 months ago

Product is great! Price is way too high. You´d sell many more copies at $50...
Film Convert 4 months ago

You might be right, but we also need to be able to pay our developers...
Patrick Wells 4 months ago

What world are you living in where professional tools cost $50?
Macgregor 4 months ago

This is just a plugin, it´s not a full suite.
nigel john stanford 4 months ago

Hi Macgregor, this version is for a $30,000-50,000 camera. When we support lower cost cameras, the price will adjust accordingly.
Patrick Wells 4 months ago

When will you guys have Fuji available? Because when you do, I'm sold.
Patrick Wells 4 months ago

What I'd REALLY love though is an easy tool to simulate looks from older Kodak stocks, but nobody else seems interested in this. Specifically, I think film from the 1980s looked far better than any of the Vision 3 stocks.
nigel john stanford 4 months ago

Hey patrick, Fuji stocks, or fuji digital cameras? We have fuji stocks already... check out the trial version on filmconvert.com
Rakesh Erukulla 4 months ago

1) So do we loose the flexibity to access r3d's metadata by using this software?
2) RED's ISO is metadata, how does the software interpret the ISO for the r3d's files?
3) What if red footage was not shot at emulating stock's ISO?

Thank you.
Rakesh Erukulla 4 months ago

never mind ... just saw the interface controls...thank you
BriFerg 3 months ago

What type of scan/telecine did you do on the film footage?
To just say this is what film looks like - seems subjective to the color grade and the colorist.
Film Convert 3 months ago

The footage was scanned on an ArriScan. There is no grading on these shots, apart from a Kodak print lookup.
Luther Vig 3 months ago

Looks pretty damn good! Is there anyplace where we could see some 2K samples?
nigel john stanford 2 months ago

here's a 3.5k sample :)
filmconvert.com/footage/man_closeup.zip
Roshdi M. Alkadri 2 months ago

to the average viewer, the difference means nothing. Good job.
Roshdi M. Alkadri 2 months ago

but mac only?
nigel john stanford 2 months ago

A PC version is being worked on right now... :)
Tremor House 2 months ago

Really looking forward to a 7D PC Version!
Brian Concepts 2 months ago

These are really great, would love to know when the PC version is available!