
Muse
3 years ago
The story of a young woman new to London and the solitude of her surroundings.
A short film by Edmond Terakopian shot on a Canon 5D MkII.
A short film by Edmond Terakopian shot on a Canon 5D MkII.
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weedze
To be the first video in the third edit it a really good result!
You are making me dream the 5D Mk II even more than I already am! :(
PS: Good idea for the video as well, it really seems to be London in the beginning!
damo
Taking her shoes off near the beginning seems to take an age.
I haven't heard the sound yet. I find that watching things with no audio shows up things that you might otherwise miss :)
What lens were you using for the shot of the phone? the DOF was really shallow. Too shallow I thought.
Thanks for that. I very much wanted to isolate her from her surroundings and shooting at f1.2 and f1.4 added to the feel I was after.
For example, you're using this like a video camera and had an idea/story board for the film rather than use the mode for something you might otherwise shoot as it happens. Good point about the DOF, though. Very noticeable, but it's a matter of adjusting and getting used to it, I guess.
Talking of which, how does ISO work. Can you change it or is there only one or a few settings? How does noise look and so on? It's presumably more than on professional video cameras and so on?
Its a great tool for a photojournalist. Over at SmugMug I've got a short video of a demo I shot - its not great, but it works. The idea with Muse was purely a creative one; to do a short film with a script - its exploring a new and interesting direction and being just creative.
The ISO, shutter and aperture are all fully automatic. However, you have exposure compensation and exposure lock to work with, so it lets you work in most conditions. As far as noise, its so much better than normal video cameras as the chip is full frame. A few of the scenes you saw were around 3200ASA, so its actually really good. I've been viewing it on a 30" monitor and am constantly amazed at the quality of the camera.
Thanks for the kind words. For a bit more info on lenses, see: edmondterakopian.blogspot.com/2009/01/muse-full-film.html
For exposure, I did custom white balance in almost every scene and used a combination of the exposure compensation dial and the exposure lock.
Keep up the beautiful work.
Many thanks for your compliments. I recorded all the ambient sounds on the camera, using (you'll be pleased to hear) a Rode VideoMic! I think its a superb mic and works really well with the 5D MkII. On the first day of shooting I did also use an Edirol recorder with an external mic on a boom, but was pleased enough with the sound recorded on the camera that I didn't use the Edirol stuff for ambient. The poem at the end though was recorded on the Edirol. In Final Cut Pro I did have to filter out some low frequency hums and hisses though.
To me what makes it feel professional is the total absence of panning and zooming. IMHE this is the killer with home video and the give away when you see it on tv or at a friend's home. And sadly feature films now seem to have an increasing use of hand held cameras, which I find equally irritating.
You have avoided all this and that's what gives the film 'class'.
Well done.
Tony
truly greatness within the projects ahead.
I have always thought of working together with you one day, now I feel it is becoming more of a dream.
Brilliant work !
Andre
That's so kind! Thank you :-)
regards
Paul
Many thanks,
Edmond
I'm sure that as well as enjoying your project, you've helped a fair few people out there decide that this is the way to go for upping the quality of their work/play in the video field. Myself included.
So. Apart from the obvious care you've taken with the quality of your shots, can I just compliment you on your framing and sensitive storytelling. You have the eye of a poet sir.
Bless
Avey
Wow, what amazingly kind words. I'm so glad you like the film and I'm touched by your compliments.
Have fun with the camera!!
Edmond
quick question for you if you would. What lens are you using at 2:23 to get such looonnnnng doors in the hallway shot?
Cheers
Avey
Wonderfully done! The camera work, directing, acting and editing were all solid. As a composer, I especially appreciate the (I assume) original music and live performance.
As this is primarily a mood piece, I have some (hopefully constructive) feedback...
The music was wonderful, but please save the accordion for films shot in Paris. It's surprisingly out of place in London. :)
You should mask any and all brand names on products. As soon as I see a brand, I start to wonder if a piece is a commercial. It pulls me out of the intended experience.
One incongruence is the character's lonely life and the beautiful, colorful shots of London that the 5D is able to capture. Less saturation - or interesting color correction - might be more consistent. You could also consider adding film grain. In fact, deeper DOF might be better for a stark mood.
I'm not recommending that you change a thing in this film. It's solid. Just some things to consider on your next projects.
You clearly have a gift for presenting mood. I'm looking forward to seeing your future productions!
Many thanks on your suggestions; duly noted.
Regards,
Edmond
This morning, I had in my hand a Nikon D90 at an Electronic Super Store that is going bankrupt. But I think I'd wait for a 5D.
Is it true that you can only shoot 15 minutes at a time?
Thanks! It is my first piece and I'm thankful and surprised its being received this well!! Film has opened up a new creative channel and I'm enjoying it thoroughly!
You can shoot a 12 minute clip at full 1080HD. As you can see from the film, you really never even approach this length in one clip. No "proper" film I've ever seen has a clip length approaching that length, so I think 12 minutes is more than long enough.
I'd wait and get the 5D MkII as you have said. It shoots video much better (and without the D90 wobble) and also (and crucial) has a microphone input.
Cheers,
Edmond
You've even made me think about switching to Canon. Well Done!!
Go on, switch; you won't regret it!!
If you upload the 1080p version, Vimeo makes it available for download and scales the playback to 720p automatically.
Also thanks for the tip - didn't know! There is a 1080HD version on SmugMug if you'd like to see it.
Thanks
The lens is a Canon 85mm f1.2L version II.
indeed I think that yours is brighter so you have a smaller DOF, is it right ?
Sorry to bother with my questions : how about the sound with the 5D M2 ?
Is the microphone into the 5D nice ? could you plug an external microphone like a rode video mic ?
Thanks by advance.
The built in mic isn't that great. Its ok if you're very close to your subject, but not great. I used a Rode VideoMic for the film. Its a superb piece of kit and the good news is, is cheap! I'd definitely recommend one; also, Rode have a shielded mini-jack extension cable for the mic, so you could have it on a boom.
Now I'm really confused I don't know if I should take a 5DM2 or a letus35 extreme as I planned :-)
However, the one thing I can say with 100% certainty, is that you won't achieve the look the 5D MkII gives unless you get a full frame chip video camera. Its the fact that its a full frame, coupled with good, fast aperture lenses that gives it this beautiful look. The smaller the chip, the deeper the DOF. My suggestion would be...........get the 5D MkII! Actually, one other factor to remember is that this camera produces amazing low light shots - I'd be stunned if there's anything out there anywhere close to how much the 5D MkII costs that can come close in both image quality and low light capability.
Thanks to a ground glass and lenses you can have a cinema look.
The problem with 35mm adapter with flip module is that you loose some light.
letusdirect.com/cart/letus35-extreme.html
On this page you can see what letus35 is.
I need to sit down.
I was considering the HV30 and the Letus Elite but when you have quality THIS good with a full sensor chip, it's unbeatable. Thank you, great film. 5/5
-Andrei Jikh
Thank you; very, very kind words. Very much appreciate your kindness.
You're right, the image quality from this camera is absolutely amazing; the first time (actually, it still happens) I look at the quality of clips from the camera on my 30" Apple monitor, I'm blown away!
For audio, may I suggest two absolutely amazing pieces of equipment. The first is the Zoom H2 Field Recorder seen here:
samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916
The other is the H4, if you want to be able to plug your $2000 XLR mics and get a fully functional sound board. This, honestly, is the perfect compliment to the 5D MK II because it shares all the same characteristics: Insane quality, incredible versatility, and CHEAP! Hope this is handy...
Thanks for the suggestion. On the first night of filming I actually used an Edirol with a mic, but ended up using the audio I got from the camera and the Rode VideoMic.
Good work and as said above, a cut above an exercise.
Bob UK
All the best
had any trouble editing, did you edit in H264?
thanks
Andre
To edit, I converted the clips into Apple Pro Res 422 first; after that, there were no problems at all. I had read that the H.264 sometimes causes problems when editing as it skips frames and the general words of wisdom seem to be to use Pro Res 422 - so that's what I did!!
Amazing stuff! I was wondering - you say you convert the clips to Apple Pro Res 422. Do you convert them back (so to speak) to H.264 before you export the final project? And is the program Final Cut?
I exported the final cut (which was made using the Pro Res 422 clips) using Apple's Compressor into various formats depending on use and needs. One of them was indeed H.264. The project itself was always kept in the 422 format.
Thanks for your kind words.
Thank you so much! What an absolutely kind thing to say. I'm so touched. Enjoy the 5D MkII. I wish you many great photographs and many great films.
theeoscars.com/5dblog/2009/01/muse-edmond-terakopian/