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The story of a young woman new to London and the solitude of her surroundings.

A short film by Edmond Terakopian shot on a Canon 5D MkII.

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  • So pleased to see more than just 5D II test shots, the piece looks great, keep up the good work :)
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Matt; that's most kind.
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  • weedze plus 3 years ago
    Love to see the shots inside the house, good white balancing, outside there are also some real cinematic shots, one thing is for sure, that focussing thing can only go better and better!

    weedze
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Weedze - most kind.
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  • The Round Peg 3 years ago
    The quality of the video is stunning and the composition of the scenes was really good.
    To be the first video in the third edit it a really good result!

    You are making me dream the 5D Mk II even more than I already am! :(

    PS: Good idea for the video as well, it really seems to be London in the beginning!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Carlo, may your dream come true very soon!!
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  • damien 3 years ago
    superb quality,i can't wait to get my 5d.

    damo
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Cheers Damo.
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  • Paul Fisher 3 years ago
    Very nice.

    Taking her shoes off near the beginning seems to take an age.

    I haven't heard the sound yet. I find that watching things with no audio shows up things that you might otherwise miss :)

    What lens were you using for the shot of the phone? the DOF was really shallow. Too shallow I thought.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Paul, the sound's so important to the piece - please try it with sound when you get a chance. The phone was on a Canon 50mm macro - yep, zero depth of field! Ideally I would have liked to get it deeper, but at that distance its practically impossible.
  • Parker Alec Cross 3 years ago
    Edmond, if you turned up the ISO on the 5d Mark II and widened the aperture to something more like 4, you'll notice the depth of field deepening slightly. It might just be enough to get the effect you're looking for, but you'll trade off with a little more noise in the dark sections. Possibly worth a try, but it might flop as well.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Parker,
    Thanks for that. I very much wanted to isolate her from her surroundings and shooting at f1.2 and f1.4 added to the feel I was after.
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  • Onnik Krikorian 3 years ago
    Well, interesting, but it's strange, I was thinking about how the video could be used in the daily life of photojournalist covering an event. However, I suppose keeping the camera steady becomes an issue and it's actually offering owners the ability to shoot both still and video images, but in a different way.

    For example, you're using this like a video camera and had an idea/story board for the film rather than use the mode for something you might otherwise shoot as it happens. Good point about the DOF, though. Very noticeable, but it's a matter of adjusting and getting used to it, I guess.

    Talking of which, how does ISO work. Can you change it or is there only one or a few settings? How does noise look and so on? It's presumably more than on professional video cameras and so on?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hey Onnik,

    Its a great tool for a photojournalist. Over at SmugMug I've got a short video of a demo I shot - its not great, but it works. The idea with Muse was purely a creative one; to do a short film with a script - its exploring a new and interesting direction and being just creative.
    The ISO, shutter and aperture are all fully automatic. However, you have exposure compensation and exposure lock to work with, so it lets you work in most conditions. As far as noise, its so much better than normal video cameras as the chip is full frame. A few of the scenes you saw were around 3200ASA, so its actually really good. I've been viewing it on a 30" monitor and am constantly amazed at the quality of the camera.
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  • Boris Jänsch plus 3 years ago
    Very nicely shot. Which lenses did you use and did you use a specific method to lock exposure?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hey Boris,
    Thanks for the kind words. For a bit more info on lenses, see: edmondterakopian.blogspot.com/2009/01/muse-full-film.html

    For exposure, I did custom white balance in almost every scene and used a combination of the exposure compensation dial and the exposure lock.
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  • Joe Shields 3 years ago
    WOWee... maybe 35mm adapters are not the way forward any more...
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Guess the 5D MkII's opened up so many possibilities! Its been such a joy shooting this short!
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  • mike drew 3 years ago
    Hi Edmond, let me add my compliments to this voluminous list. If you're not too tired of responding to questions, I'd like to know how you recorded your ambient sound. Is it in-camera or on a separate recorder. I love my 5D but I'm having issues with the sound. I just got a Rode VideoMic so I hope that will help but I'm still testing.
    Keep up the beautiful work.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Mike,
    Many thanks for your compliments. I recorded all the ambient sounds on the camera, using (you'll be pleased to hear) a Rode VideoMic! I think its a superb mic and works really well with the 5D MkII. On the first day of shooting I did also use an Edirol recorder with an external mic on a boom, but was pleased enough with the sound recorded on the camera that I didn't use the Edirol stuff for ambient. The poem at the end though was recorded on the Edirol. In Final Cut Pro I did have to filter out some low frequency hums and hisses though.
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  • DigitAlchemist plus 3 years ago
    Bravo Edmond that's a nice piece of story,santa didn't visit me last christmas..snif,hope I'll make it this year,can't wait to put my hands on one..btw this short is very cinematic and very sad in the end,love it ..carry on the good job :-)
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thank you so much. Hopefully Santa, the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny will visit soon carrying for you a 5D MkII :-)
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  • Tony Gamble 3 years ago
    Lovely piece of work, Ed.

    To me what makes it feel professional is the total absence of panning and zooming. IMHE this is the killer with home video and the give away when you see it on tv or at a friend's home. And sadly feature films now seem to have an increasing use of hand held cameras, which I find equally irritating.

    You have avoided all this and that's what gives the film 'class'.

    Well done.

    Tony
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Many thanks Tony; that's very kind.
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  • Andre Camara 3 years ago
    It is a piece of art ! Being this your first try I can foresee
    truly greatness within the projects ahead.
    I have always thought of working together with you one day, now I feel it is becoming more of a dream.
    Brilliant work !
    Andre
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hey Andre,
    That's so kind! Thank you :-)
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  • Paul Ward 3 years ago
    nice work

    regards
    Paul
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Paul,

    Many thanks,

    Edmond
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  • Júlio Taubkin pro 3 years ago
    Beautiful Night Exteriors. IMHO better than reverie.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    That's high praise indeed; many thanks for your kind words Julio.
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  • Paolo Perre 3 years ago
    Stunningly beautiful, Edmond. Beyond the obvious capabilities of HD technology you transcend with quiet and effective patience. You allow your interiors, exteriors and your subject to speak and reveal. Bravo! E che bellissima, l'attrice! Brava!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Many thanks Paolo - very kind words....and your last observation, very true.
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  • John Caballero 3 years ago
    Excellent work. So much beautiful stuff is going to be shot with this new technology. It will only get better. Great job of showing its capabilities.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Cheers John; much appreciated.
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  • Joe Wentrup 3 years ago
    Really good pice. Do you consider a real 24p version? The motion stutter with 30p on Vimeo alone would make it reasonable. Also interesting how the footage holds up after the conversion.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Joe - I hadn't but I will look into it. Thanks for the idea!
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  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    If anyone wishes to see a 1080 version: terakopian.smugmug.com/gallery/7064943_udpwz#452837276_HsWEC
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  • Donna M. Daly 3 years ago
    I can feel her loneliness, sadness....Thank you for sharing! Excellent work!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks for watching it. I'm happy we managed to communicate the plot. Really appreciate the feedback - cheers.
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  • The Carberry Twins 3 years ago
    hahahaha. friggen eh some of that was AMAZING!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Cheers!!
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  • editman plus 3 years ago
    Superb video. Finally seeing some 5D cinematic images :)
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Editman; that's most kind :-)
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  • Wayne Avanson plus 3 years ago
    Well I ordered my 5D the other day and have been trolling around looking at people's 'experiments' and 'first goes' for the past week or two and am SO GLAD I've just stumbled on your fantastic piece Edmond. The sheer quality of the shots is fantastic and got the ol' creative juices going nicely here.

    I'm sure that as well as enjoying your project, you've helped a fair few people out there decide that this is the way to go for upping the quality of their work/play in the video field. Myself included.

    So. Apart from the obvious care you've taken with the quality of your shots, can I just compliment you on your framing and sensitive storytelling. You have the eye of a poet sir.

    Bless

    Avey
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Avey,

    Wow, what amazingly kind words. I'm so glad you like the film and I'm touched by your compliments.

    Have fun with the camera!!

    Edmond
  • Wayne Avanson plus 3 years ago
    Hey Edmund,

    quick question for you if you would. What lens are you using at 2:23 to get such looonnnnng doors in the hallway shot?

    Cheers

    Avey
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Its the Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8L II, at the 16mm setting.
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  • P3Pictures plus 3 years ago
    Edmond,

    Wonderfully done! The camera work, directing, acting and editing were all solid. As a composer, I especially appreciate the (I assume) original music and live performance.

    As this is primarily a mood piece, I have some (hopefully constructive) feedback...

    The music was wonderful, but please save the accordion for films shot in Paris. It's surprisingly out of place in London. :)

    You should mask any and all brand names on products. As soon as I see a brand, I start to wonder if a piece is a commercial. It pulls me out of the intended experience.

    One incongruence is the character's lonely life and the beautiful, colorful shots of London that the 5D is able to capture. Less saturation - or interesting color correction - might be more consistent. You could also consider adding film grain. In fact, deeper DOF might be better for a stark mood.

    I'm not recommending that you change a thing in this film. It's solid. Just some things to consider on your next projects.

    You clearly have a gift for presenting mood. I'm looking forward to seeing your future productions!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Many thanks P3. For the music I have to thank Enrico Blatti and the Blue Chamber Orchestra (bluechamberorchestra.com ). I showed him a rough cut of the film and he came back with four pieces. The second track I listened to was absolutely perfect; it was as f it was specially written for the film.
    Many thanks on your suggestions; duly noted.
    Regards,

    Edmond
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  • Santo W plus 3 years ago
    Excellent piece, Edmond. You said this is your first ever movie, but reading your bio, it seems you have spent a life time behind a camera. And it shows. Please keep them coming so newbies like me can learn from you.

    This morning, I had in my hand a Nikon D90 at an Electronic Super Store that is going bankrupt. But I think I'd wait for a 5D.

    Is it true that you can only shoot 15 minutes at a time?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi STW,
    Thanks! It is my first piece and I'm thankful and surprised its being received this well!! Film has opened up a new creative channel and I'm enjoying it thoroughly!
    You can shoot a 12 minute clip at full 1080HD. As you can see from the film, you really never even approach this length in one clip. No "proper" film I've ever seen has a clip length approaching that length, so I think 12 minutes is more than long enough.
    I'd wait and get the 5D MkII as you have said. It shoots video much better (and without the D90 wobble) and also (and crucial) has a microphone input.

    Cheers,

    Edmond
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  • Sophie Ward 3 years ago
    I loved it!! Is this the new chapter in your fantastic career!
    You've even made me think about switching to Canon. Well Done!!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks :-) Most kind. Film is fun and exciting to shoot; its opened up new possibilities. Lets see where the future takes me.
    Go on, switch; you won't regret it!!
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  • Dominic Sotirescu 3 years ago
    Absolutely gorgeous! Setting custom white balance on every clip shows.

    If you upload the 1080p version, Vimeo makes it available for download and scales the playback to 720p automatically.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Dominic. Much appreciated.
    Also thanks for the tip - didn't know! There is a 1080HD version on SmugMug if you'd like to see it.
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  • David Dang plus 3 years ago
    Brillant !! I would like to know what is the lens used between 2:57 and 3:00 ?

    Thanks
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi David - many thanks!
    The lens is a Canon 85mm f1.2L version II.
  • David Dang plus 3 years ago
    Thank you, if I have a 70-300mm lens with F4-5,6, on 85 will I have the same thing ?
    indeed I think that yours is brighter so you have a smaller DOF, is it right ?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Unfortunately you won't get the safe look. The beautiful out of focus lights show up as they do (along with the rest of the background) because the scene was shot at f1.2. Even at f4 with your lens the effect will not be the same (but may still be nice). You really need to try and get the fastest aperture lens you can budget for. Even the 50mm f1.8 will give you nicer DOF results than your zoom. A step up would be the 85mm f1.8 which is also really nice. However, the only lens that gives that look is the 85mm f1.2L.
  • David Dang plus 3 years ago
    Thank you very much this will help me for buying my new lens :-)

    Sorry to bother with my questions : how about the sound with the 5D M2 ?

    Is the microphone into the 5D nice ? could you plug an external microphone like a rode video mic ?

    Thanks by advance.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Glad to be of help.
    The built in mic isn't that great. Its ok if you're very close to your subject, but not great. I used a Rode VideoMic for the film. Its a superb piece of kit and the good news is, is cheap! I'd definitely recommend one; also, Rode have a shielded mini-jack extension cable for the mic, so you could have it on a boom.
  • David Dang plus 3 years ago
    Thanks Edmond for you quick answer :-)
    Now I'm really confused I don't know if I should take a 5DM2 or a letus35 extreme as I planned :-)
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    No worries. To be honest, as you can see, this was my first film and my knowledge is pretty limited. I had to Google Letus35 as I didn't have a clue what it was!
    However, the one thing I can say with 100% certainty, is that you won't achieve the look the 5D MkII gives unless you get a full frame chip video camera. Its the fact that its a full frame, coupled with good, fast aperture lenses that gives it this beautiful look. The smaller the chip, the deeper the DOF. My suggestion would be...........get the 5D MkII! Actually, one other factor to remember is that this camera produces amazing low light shots - I'd be stunned if there's anything out there anywhere close to how much the 5D MkII costs that can come close in both image quality and low light capability.
  • David Dang plus 3 years ago
    The Letus35 is a 35mm adapter for camcorders.
    Thanks to a ground glass and lenses you can have a cinema look.
    The problem with 35mm adapter with flip module is that you loose some light.
    letusdirect.com/cart/letus35-extreme.html
    On this page you can see what letus35 is.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks for the link; saw it yesterday. I still think you'll get better results from the 5D MkII and you can invest the money for the Letus35 on an EF 85mm f1.8!
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  • Voxinabox 3 years ago
    That was really great to watch. Great images, love the colours and focully fantastic !
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Voxinabox - that's very kind.
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  • Mac Arthur plus 3 years ago
    did you correct the colors or are the original (the image when she is walking around the city in the night are expectacular!)
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Mac Arthur - They are original!! I custom WB almost every shot. Thanks for the kind words.
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  • Woody 3 years ago
    Wow, she's got the new macbook........mmm macbook. Video was ok.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    :-)
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  • Woody 3 years ago
    I have just discovered that this is an SLR camera......................OMG....

    I need to sit down.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    LOL! Thanks Woody for giving me a much needed laugh!!
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  • Andrei Jikh 3 years ago
    amazing amazing amazing amazing, I can't stress it enough. I think you have just persuaded me to get the MKII.

    I was considering the HV30 and the Letus Elite but when you have quality THIS good with a full sensor chip, it's unbeatable. Thank you, great film. 5/5

    -Andrei Jikh
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Andrei,
    Thank you; very, very kind words. Very much appreciate your kindness.
    You're right, the image quality from this camera is absolutely amazing; the first time (actually, it still happens) I look at the quality of clips from the camera on my 30" Apple monitor, I'm blown away!
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  • Parker Alec Cross 3 years ago
    Hey Edmond,
    For audio, may I suggest two absolutely amazing pieces of equipment. The first is the Zoom H2 Field Recorder seen here:
    samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916
    The other is the H4, if you want to be able to plug your $2000 XLR mics and get a fully functional sound board. This, honestly, is the perfect compliment to the 5D MK II because it shares all the same characteristics: Insane quality, incredible versatility, and CHEAP! Hope this is handy...
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Hi Parker,
    Thanks for the suggestion. On the first night of filming I actually used an Edirol with a mic, but ended up using the audio I got from the camera and the Rode VideoMic.
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  • bob lorrimer plus 3 years ago
    Don't panic boys! The future is coming and it is not Orange - it's RED.

    Good work and as said above, a cut above an exercise.

    Bob UK
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Cheers Bob.
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  • Pawel B 3 years ago
    great job! very mooving indeed.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Cheers Pawel; that's very kind.
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  • Nowawes plus 3 years ago
    Masterpiece!
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks!! That's so kind :-)
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  • Laszlo Bencze 3 years ago
    I thought the best scene was when she arose from the bench along the Thames. Lovely sense of time and space there with twinkling city lights in background. The transitions between scenes seemed too abrupt. Could they have been softened with a bit of crossfade?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Laszlo. I didn't want to cross fade too much; this is used in some of the scenes that need a softer change, but I was war of using it too much. I felt that the fast change suited some of the scenes better, but thanks for the feedback; I shall keep it in mind.
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  • Great job! Looks really good.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Thanks Khallid; most kind.
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  • The Duke 3 years ago
    Yawn... Beautiful footage, but no story line. Trying writing a decent story first.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Most viewers seem to disagree, as I do, but nevertheless, thanks for the feedback and watching it - thanks for the compliment on the footage too.
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  • Faruk Gencer 3 years ago
    Fantastic job Edmond.I think you helped me make my decision about the 5D m.2.Even thou I'm only doing it for a hobby and probably never get a great result like you have,but hey! its a toy I must have. :-) keep up the good work my friend great stuff.
    All the best
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Many thanks - you won't regret your decision. Its a great camera and I wish you the best with all you do with it.
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  • André Desrochers 3 years ago
    only one word! WONDERFUL!!!!!

    had any trouble editing, did you edit in H264?

    thanks

    Andre
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 3 years ago
    Many thanks for your kind words.
    To edit, I converted the clips into Apple Pro Res 422 first; after that, there were no problems at all. I had read that the H.264 sometimes causes problems when editing as it skips frames and the general words of wisdom seem to be to use Pro Res 422 - so that's what I did!!
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  • monso plus 3 years ago
    amazing Edmond.wow.
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 2 years ago
    Cheers Monso.
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  • Peter Hove Olesen plus 3 years ago
    Hi Edmond

    Amazing stuff! I was wondering - you say you convert the clips to Apple Pro Res 422. Do you convert them back (so to speak) to H.264 before you export the final project? And is the program Final Cut?
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 2 years ago
    Hi Peter,
    I exported the final cut (which was made using the Pro Res 422 clips) using Apple's Compressor into various formats depending on use and needs. One of them was indeed H.264. The project itself was always kept in the 422 format.

    Thanks for your kind words.
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  • Joshua Trevor Laney 3 years ago
    I think I watch your short everyday, thank you for making something so beautiful, I can't wait until I get my mark II at the end of the week
  • Edmond Terakopian pro 2 years ago
    Hi Joshua,
    Thank you so much! What an absolutely kind thing to say. I'm so touched. Enjoy the 5D MkII. I wish you many great photographs and many great films.
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  • Edmond Terakopian pro 2 years ago
    Muse is rated as third at the EOScars web site! If you've liked the film, please give it a star rating - thanks.

    theeoscars.com/5dblog/2009/01/muse-edmond-terakopian/
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