Hmmm...interesting.

Sounds interesting..however. its the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen. I know thats not important but to many it bizarrely is.

Very interesting, I hope it comes out to shake this industry up. If you follow the sensor and processor industry, you can see the technology is here for affordable raw camera. But it is those big companies that are holding it. I can't see one technological industry where progress is so low or intentionally crippled by marketing. When 8bit codec are the norm for $ 5000 camera when in the photo world for 1/10th of the price you are using 12 bit raw files.

When you think the power of the little gh2. More so the 12 fps 24 megapixel Sony a77 throughput is the same as about 144 fps 2 k raw output. This tell you that with the hardware processing of the A77 with a 2k chip and you would easily get a 24 fps 2k raw cinema camera.

Yes interesting. We shall wait and see.
Looks a bit like a projector on it's side.

That chap talks like the character "Howard Weinstein" in Father of the Bride.

Will be interesting to see the price once it hits the UK/USA

did he mention anything about the sensor size?

Pretty much the price of a RED Scarlet, right?

I want to see images from it. Interesting of course. But one of the ugliest camera bodies I've ever seen!!

Obviously cutting some major corners... RED is barebones price while making profit to run as a company.. so this is made using the cheapest labor on earth.. and probably some human rights violations.. That is a hasty generalization... I know.. but mayvbe someone can convince me otherwise?

$8000 for a 2k camera? I wonder if it will actually work longer than 6 months. If it does, look out Japan corps.

Yes, some images would be nice, otherwise it's some bloke with an old radio having a laugh...

I am much more interested in this camera than I am in the RED... as many have shown RED cams are not true specs, and certainly NOT RAW... this is REAL Uncompressed TRUE 2K to every measure, like the Alexa... And EVEN better is the fact that it is TRUE RAW. .DNG is the best thing that has happened to cinema. IDK if any of you guys have worked with Ikonoskop footage? But it is truly life changing. Ive done a lot of work with ikonoskop RAW .dng files and it is mind blowing how easy the workflow is and how perfect you can make the footage as a colorist. Especially since you can run it through the tried and trued Adobe Camera Raw. I cannot wait for footage from this game changer to come out. This could hurt Arri, RED, and any other company making big money cameras that dont shoot .dng this might be the push that us "photographer/cinematographers" have been dying for.

It's ugly and so is some of the Panavision film cameras. I don't care about the cosmetics of a camera but more the quality. The issue is, these guys need some sponsors to get this camera into the markets. It's basically a few of my cousins sitting around trying to figure out how to make an Alexa and they did. They may not use prime parts but the machine works. 2k Raw DNG. Remember it's a computer with a censor and a lens. Any engineer willing to will figure how to build one. 8k, I'm buying 4 of them.

Man!!! so happy to see VHF cameras are back.!!! count me for 2

Ugly, not an issue. Functional is an issue. It's a un-ergonomic box like every other camera on the market. Good for me, I'll make a bundle.

Is it just me who noticed that the presentation was not good!
Don't know what to say about the camera! Personally I don't I'd get it!

Steve please make a nice shiny Z-Anchor for it so we can drop this one in a cold deep chicago river where it belongs

I love China ;)

i agree. looks not everything, but the specs are interesting and price is great if they can pull it off.

Competition is good.

Lets push the cinema boundaries,
it can only make the final products better and better.

Now if hollywood could actual have some ideas worth telling we would all be better off.

I am a Chinese，studying in America.I am happy and proud of to see a Chinese digital camera .I just want to say,couldn't you to find a guy who can speaks Engish better.

no thanks, i'm waiting for scarlet;
did he say 'gorgeous' at the very end?

Interesting...I would like to see where this leads and how many more features they can pump into that cinder block.

the final design will be smaller, and the s16 and s8 versions are going to be show stoppers... dont know why everyone is tied up in how it looks... why do you care? are you afraid someone might judge you when itsa on your shoulder making beautiful images... you should all be learning the cinema .dng workflow because its the future... no more fake "raw" from companies. Dont get me wrong RED has changed everything in the cinema industry and they have all of my respect... but .dng is true RAW and makes for the best looking footage I an my colleagues have seen... If the Ikonoskop wasnt an arm and a leg and unrelliable as hell Id be all over it... lets see if these guys can do what the industry needs...

When this camera comes out it will be a dream come true for filmmakers of all sizes and shapes. I hope it comes out soon.

This just makes you wonder why is RED taking so long with their cameras... They have been talking the talk and have been promising Scarlet for ages and it looks like these guys in China are walking the walk.

When this comes out I will not even think about RED

Cheers

go china

Nice piece of technology there. I can't wait to see it in action and hear the user's story about the camera.

nice - I don´t care what it looks like if it´s 7 grand it looks beautifull to me ;0)

Its as ugly as hell but heck only 7K? Not bad.

I was just talking to some local filmmakers last week. "You know some Chinese company is seeing a big op in a RED/Arri competitor." Ha I just sent them this link. =)

not as ugly as the canon 4k hair dryer!

Am I the only one that likes the look of it?

no i do like the looks of it, very "phantom"

I don't think a camera has to look PRETTY. Who care how it LOOKS as long as it functions and has everything promised. If this is the one, then I am buying.

We all new something like this was coming from China didn't we? Obviously early days. In regards to complaints about cosmetics who cares as long as it delivers QUALITY not just in image but also build & reliability. Give me a butt ugly camera that shoots high end files for $8,000 over a pretty thing that looks like its trying to be an Arri & shoots H264 anyday!

it's just a chinese camera...have u seen the buttons on the side, the xlr bay and heard the sound of the door of the slot?.-.....in my experience never work with chinese stuff totally not reliable

Yeah that's a piece of shit.

We don't know yet whether it's shit or not. Russian technology was as crude looking as a medieval torture apparatus, but they put the first man in space. Also, their LOMO lenses - one of the best in the world. Chinese are much more efficient than Russians, in my opinion, so I'm willing to give them some benefit of doubt and do actually hope it's going to work. I don't care much about the looks of that thing. One big question is the sensor technology inside.

They should have done some lovely 3d rendering every six month, so that they can deliver it three years late at twice to three time the price.

I don't see this as a competitor to the EPIC. Give me a break.

Looks like competition is about to be fierce for RED’s market. Yes ugly cam but that’s not the point. I can see all the RED engineers laughing at this but Indie filmmaker/videographers are rubbing their hands together to see where this heads.

Hope this cam produces images as good as Alexa. If it does, I'm grabbing one when it comes out.

Its funny I think it will be very soon kids will be assembling, hacking their own cheap 2 and 4k cameras.

The sensors are mature. Look at an APS-C Nikon or Canon or m43 GH-2. The still quality is GREAT. It's just interfacing it with a computer that can handle the uncompressed bandwidth and debayer algarythms. Eveything is going top SSDs which are getting cheaper and cheaper each day.

I think it will not be very long before some kid cracks open a GH-2, taps the uncompressed signal off the sensor and builds the first DIY 4k camera. Probably with some NVidia card with CUDA and an Intel i7.

WOW, if the images coming out of this thing is as it should be say good bye to RED. Also My waiting time for the Scarlet if just starting to go away. Thanks a CHINA.

Now people lets hope we can get this thing from China and not be restricted by IDIOTS like LightPannels.

I really can not find a single Human Reason why are the big companies preventing serious development of camera sensors... We all know the obvious answer of course, but its soooo hypocritical that I wanna cry... Big Cheers to China! Really hope the specs are fully true ;)

Sure there are concerns about this product , do you really want to be running V1.1 of this thing on set or location? But one thing after decades (it feels like it anyway) of stagnant camera design by the big boys trying to preserve market share & price, the cmos chip has birthed an exciting period of camera development!

Sure, it looks like something the Chinese Army designed, but if it looks good, my company will buy it. We were the first to shoot a National ad on the Canon 7D and people called us crazy.

Why all this talk about the looks of a prototype? Do you need matching shoes and belt too? Is the RED any better looking, the're all just boxes after all. But without even a glimpse of an image, this is more vapourware as far as I'm concerned. Who reviews a camera without images? Even one still! I don't see a game changer just yet. I'd be very cautious before they got my $8K. Show me visuals, then we'll have something to comment about.

The fact that he's referring to his brochure kinda freaks me out a bit.

I don't want to be mean but the way how this guy is talking is very similar to my primary school presentation.

I like the way it looks. Very utilitarian. BTW, Epic M is in production now and should be shipping within a week or two. No need to buy an Epic X.

I agree that without any footage it doesn't mean much, so looking forward to seeing that.

This camera has promise. I'll pick one up if it works out ... Red Scarlet is waiting in the wings and may never get on stage!

does this shoot more then 60fps?

Very interest camera, I for one really like the look of the button/plug layout - it looks like it would be really simple and straightforward to operate.

It's a shame the SI-2K has never really taken off in a big way for digital cinema, because the interface on that camera is the best I've ever encountered.

Interface makes a huge difference to the actual use of any camera.

im surprised no one has mentioned the obvious computer fan they got behind that grill in the back ;)

KineRAW footage ?
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Ill never buy this. I want to do it professionally, this looks like a joke.

Looks like a shoe box with a lens stuck on it...but
can't wait to seeone!

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