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I've just got my new 200mm EF lens, and can't wait to try it, but it's night time...What can I shoot ? Nothing but the moon...

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  • Goldenboi24k 10 months ago
    Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L ???
  • David Coiffier plus 10 months ago
    yes, f/2.8L II to be precise
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  • ße ωell ;-) plus 10 months ago
    that came out great :)

    What was your ISO settings ?
  • David Coiffier plus 10 months ago
    Thx! I was 100 ISO, 1/160s & f8.
    typical raw workflow : conversion in DPP to tif 16bit, then shake to do minor enhancements and major color corrections...
  • ße ωell ;-) plus 10 months ago
    cheers Dave, I thought your ISO was something like 3200 with the amount of detail you have. Just goes to show what can be done in PP. Nice one :)
  • David Coiffier plus 9 months ago
    You know, I don't think you get more details by raising ISO setting. You only get more noise & defects ;)

    And moon is a damn bright thing, as bright as a white thing under the sun light, so you really have latitude to get the best speed/aperture couple...
  • ße ωell ;-) plus 9 months ago
    some people here have created really detailed night lapses with ISO's up to the 3200 mark. I assume they have used a wide aperture f1.4 and a pretty fast shutter for the amount of detail that's been captured. Noise Reduction often helps, but most has been cleaned up in post. I tried a moon shot a while ago with an ISO of 1000 - 1/200th second exposure, f/22 - the results weren't that great, although the moon was as bright as a headlamp.

    I guess I need to experiment some more eh ;-)
  • David Coiffier plus 9 months ago
    In my understanding, best picture comes with ideal aperture setting. Wide open leads to chromatic aberrations, vignetting, etc...Too small aperture leads to very sharp pictures, but also to diffraction pollution, so best details are caught with a setting from 5.6 up to 11, depending on the lens you have.

    High ISO seems very bizarre to me for a so bright subject.You won't get a crisper picture when raising ISO. In fact you won't get anything better with higher ISO, except very low lights. May be useful to get maximum stars, but that is the only case I can figure out...
  • ße ωell ;-) plus 9 months ago
    point taken, I've not had much opportunity at night time lapses - too much light pollution where I am. I will certainly give your settings a try though, as soon as the temperature warms up slightly without fear of the lens fogging up!

    Thanks again Dave for your info, this is appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Rob.
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  • David Coiffier plus 9 months ago
    About details in general, there are 2 rules very few people are aware of, that you always should conform to :

    • Use sharpen only ONCE in your whole workflow
    • Use sharpen at the end, once denoise, resize, etc have been done.

    That just means that you DON'T want any sharpen prior to HD resize : no sharpen in the camera, no sharpen in ACR or DPP if you have raw files, and no sharpen before final resize.

    Only, when on a 1920x1080 (or any size you did choose to work with), you can apply once and only once a final sharpen filter.

    Working this way can also really help you with approximative focused shots...
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  • Maarten Toner plus 9 months ago
    Funny, if you didn't tell us it was a timelapse I would have assumed its just a photo of the moon on a motion path :) Good tripod I guess hehe
  • David Coiffier plus 9 months ago
    I've also pointed this out. The night was really cold (-15° C) and no air turbulence went to stress shooting.
    The only way to see that it is actually a timelapse is to look carefully to very light clouds pollution, modulating brightness on the darkest zones of the moon, near the end of the shot...

    And my Manfrotto is definitely a good tripod! :)
  • Maarten Toner plus 9 months ago
    Yeah saw the light clouds breaking the light giving it that organic touch. Did you shoot this in France? We can't get skies like this in the Netherlands, its the first thing I noticed when we went to Chamonix this winter: You can see the night sky :)
  • David Coiffier plus 9 months ago
    Shot was made 35 km west from Paris, not such a good spot to get deep sky...
    3 weeks ago, I was in the valley next to Chamonix and got awesome shots I'll post soon, stay tuned ;)
  • Christer Dahl plus 7 months ago
    Like Megeve or Argentiere?
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  • Magicroom 8 months ago
    Good sharpening advice.
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  • Brian Boudreau 7 months ago
    great detail
    Reading thru your comments Dave great info thanks. what Manfrotto legs and head are you using?
  • David Coiffier plus 7 months ago
    Sorry for the delay Brian, but my tripod was actually in my car, and I didn't remember either tripod or head model I have...

    Anyway, head is 141RC and tripod is 190B!
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  • Sriram Durbha 7 months ago
    Hi David,
    Awesome stuff up there!! What kind of trigger mechanism did you use? And how many pictures in all ?
  • David Coiffier plus 6 months ago
    Hey Sriram, thx for your comment!
    I'm using canon TC-80N3 external remote trigger.
    About the total frames, just take duration in seconds, and multiply by 25, you'll have the total shot frames...
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  • pastol 5 months ago
    NICE, so nice. I fully expected the moon to bounce off the right edge of the frame, then the bottom, then the left side... Too much pong in my younger years. Very nice.
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  • Kakihara 3 months ago
    Great great video man !!

    I just wanted to ask you ... is it possible to use that video for one my project ? (i'm film student and sometimes we're doing some directing exercises, it would be great to use that moon) Or can i buy it from you ?

    Thanks ;)
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