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37. Introducing the Panasonic HPX300
2 years ago
Ned Johnston from Panasonic joins the round table with Steve Weiss, Jens Bogehegn and John Terendy to discuss the HPX300, the hot new Panasonic ENG 1080p camera. This is the definitive video where you can see a side by side test between the Sony EX3 and this new Panasonic HPX300, both shooting the same scene. In typical Zacuto style, here is a discussion about the pros and cons of this new camera to determine if it's right for you. Watch as Steve, Ned, Jens and John answer these questions; What is AVC intra codec? Who is this camera for? Can I use it for digital cinematography? Can I get mount all of my accessory gear to it including a DOF adapter? And much more!? See high res images of the HPX300: zacutoimages.com/p876432567/h3776fc01#h3776fc01
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the ex1/3 lets you overcrank to 60fps no matter what hz you are in.
The Red camera also looks like a great piece of equipment but can get Very Very Pricey.
For the money one may spend on a RED camera I would personally just use to rent a film camera (but thats just because i prefer film over digital when it comes to bigger budget :).
Anyways Great Video once again ZACUTO you guys are great!.
And Many KUDOS to panasonic and their new Camera!
RED allows something that nobody else does: the ability to digitally develop your footage. It's a bit like shooting in RAW over JPEG-- you'll never go back once you know what it can do for you. Unless you're developing and grading your own 16mm film, you're never going to get anywhere near the control over the picture that you'll have with the Redcode RAW, and the cost is actually very low compared to professional processing, color grading, etc...: you can do it all right there in Final Cut Pro on your Macbook.
Thanks for your info!
This video for example. I use 5 HVX200's one with a DOF adapter. I want to shoot fast, import fast and bring this video to market fast. I don't need 4K, 2K or even 1K. I don't need to be converting RED files and waiting for that. The HVX200 is the right and correct camera for the job. The picture quality is great and the cost of 5 HVX200's makes this relatively inexpensive to shoot. Here is a perfect example of picking the right camera for the job.
I just don't see a 1/3" sensor-based camera as a strong digital cinema solution, just because you've got a DOF adapter on the end of it. But you're also right when you note that not all budgets and crews call for RED cameras.
but I'll keep my 1/2" "palm camera" :)
The power of the AVC-Intra codec is one of the things that mights attract users still concerned about sensor size to this camera as well. It has a much more professional feel I'm sure... I guess it depends on your shooting style, content you shoot, among other things.
and I hate the form factor of EXs,
but when they release 2/3", even if it's gona look like toilet seat, I still gona buy it :)
thanks for the video
I agree that it is amazing what Panasonic is doing to bring features that have been around forever on the ENG cams to the smaller "palm cams". Features like a waveform, vectorscope, histogram, focus assists are all very useful in my everyday shooting, especially in HD.
I however find the ex1 with zacuto baseplate a very nice and balanced camera even for handheld. Not perfect, but I can live with it. Anyway I really love the peaking on the ex1, the manual white balance tuning and the great image controls plus the cine gammas Sony has developed something really great. In terms of AVC Intra vs. XDCAM EX codec - I'm curious to see on normal every day shoots what a different this would make in image quality at the end of the day. However I do know a 1/2' chip for ENG work looks more like a 2/3' chip than a 1/3' chip so I don't quite know if this camera in terms of image quality at the end of the day make production companies happy when they want that "Varicam look" at a cheaper price. Anyway can't wait to see a shoot out of the EX3 and HPX300.
smaller cam .... less feature
...and you guys failed to mention the massive advantage of hand-held cameras: portability and flexibility. You need things like HVX-200 if you are running around, filming stunts getting immersed in crowds... especially on a lower budget.
I think the HPX-500 had some issues, the sensor was based on the HVX200 it was only 960X720, but 2/3”. The canon lens it came with was heinous. Major color fringing chromatic aberrations even though it was said to have CAC. I rented it for a music video and ended up with a 18X HD Fujinon ENG lens. I am intersted to hear about the Fuji glass this camera comes with. The 500 camera was CCD the HPX-300 is CMOS. To me I would test, test, TEST this camera to make sure if you are shooting action there is not the “jelly effect” / rolling shutter/ skew. Also is this camera 3 cmos sensors which add up to a 2.2 megapixel imager or each is 2.2? I suspect the latter.
Is the HPX-300 really full raster 1920X1080 or is it 1440X1080. The new Varicam P2 2700 is only 1440X1080 and the body alone is 40K.
Please someone rent this thing and put it to the test, but I love the price point and I love the fact we have gone back to more traditional designs for theses entry pro-level cameras
Finally, anyone who thinks that the can get a cinema full-blown RED package for 20K is sadly mistaken. It approaches 100K with used older pl mount glass and thats a conservative estimate. It’s all about the glass.
I'm getting too many people that think you can put a real RED or SCARLET kit together for 20K and they are dreaming. Also what bugs me is that they think it is a panacea for all ills. I dig the RED and have used it and liked it but it's not for all jobs, nor is the HPX300 or any camera for that matter. So many of my friends that are shooters use a XL-H1/EX3/HVX200 plus a HPX500/XDCAM 350 plus a RED or film camera. They use the right camera for the right job
I used the XDCAM 350, it was the perfect cam for my project.
The red just had been useless since we didnt had the money and the post-production equipements to deal whit it.
As an professional ENG shooter that is interested in jumping into the independent film world.. having to adjust to a palmcorder with many of the basic manual controls having to be operated from a menu rather than a mechanical control or dial is just unfamiliar for me.. it really takes practice to become proficient and definitely slows you down in run and gun situations..
This HVX300 seems like it has all the manual features and controls of a more costly camera that us ENG types are used to.. I was considering a JVC GY series camera for that very reason.. to have the camera sitting on my shoulder.. and being able to adjust focus/zoom/iris on a manual lens is very attractive to me.
I think the image compared nicely with the EX3.. I would really like to see some real world video from this camera.. outdoors in an uncontrolled enviroment.. with camera movement to see how the CMOS sensors react and how they handle varying light conditions..
My only issue with this camera so far is its choice of using P2 media.
Once again.. thanks so much for putting this video out there Steve! it really allows us to see what's new out there. This gives us a really nice preview of what looks to be a great camera for the $$!
It has flaws, but so does every camera I have used...but at this price point it will be a great addition to my arsenal.
Aside from that I love your camera tests and round table discussions. Thanks a lot. And thanks for responding. (I didn't really think anyone was going to read what I said to be honest)
But a great feature that Panasonic added to the HPX300 is the use of AVC-Intra which gives a lot of ability to grade in post and is a broadcast grade recording format.
It depends on the final delivery format of your videos, and for the price the 300 is pretty nice.
Im kinda scared by the cost of the p2 card right now. Compared the the sony professional blu-ray ( 25-30 $ ) for 1 hour of 35 MBs of 1920/1080 hd footage.
I think i will still go whit the XDCAM series.
I agree with everyone who mentions getting the right form factor and workflow for the task in hand. I shoot 6 days a week on and in the water - i use a XH-A1 as i can be away in the water all day on a boat and only worry about tapes. 90% of people i come across have a first question of 'what camera do you use' - its never 'how do you use your camera'.
PEOPLE: STOP EQUATING 50-100k CAMERA BUDGET AND THINKING RED IS THE ONLY WAY IN THAT BUDGET. I've noticed that a lot people on the web are starting joing camps, almost like religions, then they start trying to convert everyone to there equipment camp. It's an interesting life study (why can't one be comfortable in his own gear and comfortable with others owning different gear) I'm supposed to say everyone should buy Zacuto, but I realize it's not for everyone, every camera or every budget. That's cool and I've made my peace with it. I guess man is not comfortable with that. It's ok if you own one camera and others own another, it's not a slam to you or the manufactuer, to your desicison making process or intellegence. It's just a different need for a different use.
Please start picking cameras based on the exact use you are doing. Weight, size, shoulder mountable, ability to carry it all day if needed, features you want, form factor you like, budget, type of shooting you are doing and where you are going to be doing it: these are the criteria I'd like to see you using to make your equipment purchases.
Steve
It is funny how people pair up cameras though. When they see a XH-A1, you get the question "why didn't you get a HVX" - and there are countless A1 vs HVX forum threds with people quoting lines from the spec sheet.
Oh, glad you like the site....
But again I've consistantly said, "there is a ass for every saddle".
I wish these discussions A1 vx. HVX would change to be more about the content and not how you got there. I never hear people ask if a film was shot with moviecam, panavision or Arriflex? The only thing they discuss is if it was good or not.
Thats exactly the point! And on Vimeo, people only ask 'what camera did you use' when they liked what you did....
Thanks
I guess at the end of the day it's what each individual calls a professional setup.