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16. John Ziegler / Katie Couric at USC
7 months ago
NOTE:

As many of you already know, I was arrested and roughed up by USC campus police while I was outside the event where Katie Couric got her journalism award for her Sarah Palin interview.

For those of you in Orange County California, we have a VERY special screening of my feature documentary "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected And Palin Got Smeared" as part of the Newport Beach Film Festival on Saturday April 25th 2009 at 11:00am.

If you can possibly make it, please do as it is very rare for a "conservative" film to be accepted into such a prestigious festival and it is very important that turnout be as strong as possible.

Here is the link to tickets:

newportbeachfilmfest.tix.com/Event.asp?Event=184968



John Ziegler was detained by the USC Campus Police for simply asking questions about the Excellence in Journalism award being given to Katie Couric at the Journalism building at USC on 04/15/09.

He was cuffed and roughed up by campus security after John refused to give up his right to free speech.

You have to watch the whole thing to believe what happens.

What I Have to Say:

Today I went to USC to witness and ask questions about Katie Couric getting the Walter Cronkite journalism award for her interview of Sarah Palin. I intended to also give away copies of my film but I was literally prevented from doing so. I did not go there hoping for or expecting any sort of confrontation, especially with law enforcement. I am simply shocked and horrified by what happened here, as should every freedom loving American. I did absolutely nothing wrong and I was handcuffed, detained and literally abused by law enforcement at the event. The video below will speak for itself, but I will have plenty to say about this very disturbing episode.

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  • Bill Butler 7 months ago
    Jeez, are you always this annoying? You kept asking to get tossed but they tried to ignore you. They finally got tired of hearing your whiney azz and did everyone a favor by clearing the area. Mommy not give you enough attention when you were little and playing with your dolls?
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  • Cam11 7 months ago
    Hey John it looks a lot like the stuff that happens in Canada Im glad you got it on video.
    To the above are you always this anoying or just when you are eposing the Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro school of journalism. Anyone who sees this and cant appreciate the irony of it needs to spend a good couple of weeks in Venezuela for an attitude shift.

    Thanks John I guess only 60 minutes or Michale Moore are allowed to show up at events "uninvited".
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  • ken harris 7 months ago
    wipe the arrogant smile off your face, john. it was obvious from the outset what you were up to, you couldn't deal with the ground rules for your original intent so you changed "roles" and were amazed when you weren't allowed to make trouble by trying to lie your way in. maybe the handcuffs were a little over the top but considering your resistance and refusal to comply, who knows what they thought you were capable of. it's private property, you were told how to make your point, you didn't want to comply, you and your agenda got smoked. no wonder you're a talk radio has been and documentary wannabe. if you're a journalist, i'm prince of wales. and as for the previous comparison of a respected school of communications to repressive dictatorships...i'm sure you and jz will be very happy together in your rubber room with your tinfoil hats waiting for the aliens.
  • Lee Nichols 7 months ago
    Hey Ken, why don't YOU wipe that arrogant attitude from yourself. In fact since you have no tolerance for people who speak out against what is going on, why don't you just move to Iran or Russia, since you seem to like such repression. What do you stand to gain from the Obama loving media by defending these repressive pimps? THAT video represents OUR LIBERTY being flushed down the tiolet. Maybe your're comfortable with that but I AM NOT. And I have one for you; if you are truly an American, then I'm the Czar of Russia, back from the dead.
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  • Mr. Lucas Brice 7 months ago
    As a Conservative, I have to say that this video clip was uncomfortable to watch. Everyone was politely telling Ziegler to leave and he acted like a first class dick.

    If I was one of the security guards, not only would I have handcuffed Ziegler, but I would have hit him over the head with my nightstick until I had beaten that stupid smile off his face.

    It's not easy to criticise someone who shares my political point of view, but people like this give Conservatism a bad name. We don't need our own Michael Moore. One of him is enough.

    americandictatorobama.com
  • Lee Nichols 7 months ago
    Quite frankly, I can't tell the difference between you and Michael Moore other than you being less obese than Moore I'd imagine. At least Moore doesn't pretend to be Conservative like you.

    So you would have used your nightstick to "beat that smile off his face?" Perhaps you'd like it when that same thing happens to you for less of a reason because that is where this country is headed and this video is proof of that.
  • John Lukens 6 months ago
    Lee Nichols, I really like all of your posts on this page, and I think this one in particular.

    One of the most annoying things in our culture these days is when we hear these self-identified "CONSERVATIVES" like Mr. Lucas Brice mascarade as "a life-long conservative." -- Oh yeah, right; like HE's not dancing to the tune of Katie Couric, Keith Olbermann and Janeane Garofalo.
    Yet in the very same breath he tells us clearly,

    "If I was one of the security guards, not only would I have handcuffed Ziegler, but I would have hit him over the head with my nightstick until I had beaten that stupid smile off his face."

    As if true conservatives would want to be linked in any way with him !?

    As least "Sgt. Are" may have some credibility left here to consider himself a thoughtful, yet disappointed conservative. Mr. Lucas Brice on the other hand, is nothing but a two-bit thug within his own vivid imagination. In reality, he is just about the furthest thing from a decent, law-abiding conservative as could be imagined.

    Remember this, Mr. Brice. Although you didn't learn this properly in those uber-liberal schools you attended, when the National Socialist party of the 1930s and 1940s practiced your brutish brand of liberalism, they finally reached the point at which the world was forced to respond, and squelch 'em.
    People like you would give conservatism a bad name, IF you were in fact a conservative. But it's quite clear by what you've revealed here, you're simply a shill for the Katie Couric crowd.
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    Woody Boyd also makes an excellent point here when he states,
    "I wonder if any REAL conservative would be uncomfortable considering how this would have made major news headlines if this were an event that could have been defined as conservative and a 'Code Pink' (L B) who would been blocking access and throwing "fake blood" around were arrested."
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    Mr. Brice, liberal MS-NBC sycophants are easy to spot a mile away. It's guys like you who call up radio talk shows and claim they've voted [conservative] "all my life .. until I saw the light" and then followed the "wisdom" of Katie Couric, Colin Powell and David Brooks, and voted for "the enlightened moderates" this time around.
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    "Disturbing the Peace" ?

    One thing good about the state where Sgt Are lives, they actually have such a thing as "Disturbing the Peace." -- In most places I've been, it seems that even those cars that shake the entire neighborhood with loud music are Not considered as disturbing the peace. But if a journalist, who's not invited by the winners of an "Exellence in Journalism" award, tries to ask some meaningful, legitimate questions at one of our "institutions of higher learning" -- well, that cannot be tolerated! ( not by the ultra-"tolerant" self-righteous Katie Couric fans. )
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  • Woody Boyd 7 months ago
    I wonder if any REAL conservative would be uncomfortable considering how this would have made major news headlines if this were an event that could have been defined as conservative and a "Code Pink" idiot who would been blocking access and throwing "fake blood" around were arrested.

    Don't try to tell me that was a legal seizure since USC last time I checked was public property and no "disturbance of the peace" occured. If what these little minded journalists like Couric wanted was a quiet evening to celebrate their itty bitty selves with their inflated egos, then rent a private hall like the rest of the world does to hold awards ceremonies.

    But for anyone here to suggest the arrest was correct and just is simply showing your liberal leaning toward that propaganda machine that's taking us to the edge.

    Again, why didn't this get the same outrage coverage from the media that all those Anti-War, Anti-Bush, Anti-American morons got doing things far more severe than simply wanting to interview people and ask questions !!!
  • Jay Are 7 months ago
    To be quite honest Woody, the only thing that made this arrest incorrect was that they let him leave after they handcuffed him. He should have been charged with Disturbing the Peace, being a Disorderly Person and Tresspassing (after being asked to leave)(at least in my state those would be the charges). The fact that the Campus police allowed him to leave uncharged in my opinion put them in a weak position to defend themselves if John decided to pursue false arrest charges.

    Let me say this, I am a conservative Police Sergeant, I agree with John on the question of why he couldn't attend, but how far do you push things to get your point across. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    His point was lost in all of this, and to be perfectly honest, if this was a code pinko member you would have though the handling of him would have been just fine.

    My point is we shouldn't go around acting like the leftist loonies or we will be judged just like them, we are rational thinking people, let's act like it. John should have made his point known and then went behind the barricade and covered it from 7' away from wher he was and continue to emphasize his point.

    I don't think the Campus Police wanted to arrest John or they would have. When they tried to escort him off the grounds using empty hand escort techniques,(after they asked him several time politely to leave) John resisted, as a result he was handcuffed and in my opinion should have been charged once he was.

    Sgt Jay Are
  • Lee Nichols 7 months ago
    Let me ask you this Sgt. Are, what video did you watch? There is NOTHING in this video that shows John disturbing the peace or being disorderly. He had every right to be there. He was denied access to the event and all he wanted was a straight answer as to why he was not allowed to attend the event and neither security or the organizers would give him a straight answer. I do agree that he took matters too far, but that does not justify how he was treated by security. If they were so nice and professional, why couldn't they give him a straight answer as to why he wasn't allowed in?
  • JC Brown 4 months ago
    USC is, and has always been, a private institution and its campus is private property.
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  • Geoff London 7 months ago
    John - Great job exposing (once again) the complete hypocrisy of the academic and media left in this country. John did nothing but ask questions until the media relations guy got uncomfortable and decided to sick the goons on him.

    I am curious though, who, exactly, gets to determine which journalists get are part of the "official" media in this country?
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  • Roscoe Vincent 7 months ago
    John should get an award!! OH the hypocrisy. The MSM is bought and paid for !!! We don't have journalism in this country anymore we have advocacy and academia is to blame.
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  • Jay Are 7 months ago
    As a conservative Police Sergeant, I find this video very disturbing but not because of the actions of the campus police, but because of your actions, John.

    Although I agree with your point about the journalism, you acting the way you did, in my opinion, made you look just like one of the Code Pinko protesters. I think your point would have been made and accepted by merely asking questions about why you couldn't go in and then doing what was asked by going outside the barricade and cover as much as you can.

    Acting the way you did is not going to make any difference. Roughed up? These campus officers tried to do their job without having to handcuff you. You pushed it to the point that they had to do so because you would not leave on your own. You were not roughed up. It looks to me like they took painstaking measures to make sure that didn't happen.

    As one of your supporters and admirers I was definitely disappointed in your behavior. If we start acting like the lefist loonies at these functions we will not be taken seriously.

    Most conservatives that watch this will be disappointed at your behavior, it's fine to ask questions but once they insisted you go behind the barrier, you should have done so and you could have opined on camera how you were not allowed in, the point would have been made.

    In my opinion you overdramatized this whole issue and hurt your message, not helped it.

    If I didn't know you I would have thought I was watching some left wing protester.

    Those campus police officers used great restraint in handling you, they didn't even seem to want to do what they had to do, they were just trying to do their jobs, and if I know them like most officers they probably sympathized with you but they have a job to do.

    I hope in the future you react a bit differently, make your point but do so in a respectable fashion, the point will be much better accepted, especially when you are preaching to the choir.

    Sgt. Jay Are
  • gary smith 7 months ago
    Good points Jay Are but you have to realize John was not representing any political group here. He was really just trying to hammer home the "licit" irony that was unfolding right before our eyes. Granted, the arguing points were repeated over and over.......ahh but see, it couldn't have been more clear to anyone that would care to open their eyes.

    I think what gets under people's skin, speaking on this video, is that the viewer is repeatedly slapped in the face with what is wrong with our news outlets and it actually pisses them off that they just don't quite understand what has happened this past election year. They have elected a "savior" of the people and forgotten we have one. They have elected a "speaker" of the people and forgotten, we wanted none. They have elected a falsely presented "curer" of all the world's problems and have surely forgotten we asked for none. The most frightening of all is that Mr. Obama, I personally feel, feels he is all of these. That my friends, is the scariest thought in my head these days.
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  • Joy Pickett 7 months ago
    Way to go, John! This is just a TASTE of what we can expect in the future. Say good bye to free speech. I am proud of you, John.
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  • Chad Thomason 7 months ago
    I thought the funniest thing was how lame the security guards were trying to handcuff John. Great video!
    BTW, what camera were you using? 1080i , 24p? Panasonic or Sony?
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  • Lee Nichols 7 months ago
    While I admit John Ziegler went much further than I would have, still those of you blowhards who support what the police did need to take your heads out of your butts. And that includes those of you who pretend to be conservative. THIS is what is happening our freedoms. THIS was one of the the things that started the American Revolution; CRUEL REPRESSIONS. Ziegler had EVERY right to be there. These security officers violated his civil liberties and should be diciplined. Next time it could be anyone who dares to speak out even if you don't give half the provocation. This is where our country is headed and you proponents of this need to wake up and take notice.
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  • Terry Hack 7 months ago
    I am a regular American. Nothing fancy, just John Q. Public. But I have to tell ya, I am getting scared of what is happening in our country. Pretty soon, they will start telling us where we can go, and what time we will will have to be home. Our freedoms are being bled from us. God help us all.
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  • Matthew Wunderlich 7 months ago
    God you come off as an idiot.
    USC is a private university, you were asked to leave from their private property, get over it. You give our country a bad name.
  • gary smith 7 months ago
    He gave part-time officers a bad name. Actually, USC is a private corporation. As far as private property laws go, yes, they can ask him to leave but when he repeatedly asks why and receives no clear, straightforward answer I ask the question...who comes off looking like idiots here?

    Those officers were as ignorant of the applicable law as John may have been. At least he was attempting to learn the reasoning behind his expulsion from the premises, with little clarity in the final explanation.

    Here's a link you may enjoy:

    downtownnews.com/articles/2006/12/11/news/news05.txt


    Sounds like a corporation to me...
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  • Herdz Catz 7 months ago
    As obnoxious as John may be, he is shedding light on a dramatic journalistic injustice done to Gov. Palin by our media "elite". As uncomfortable as I am at this form of civil disobedience, we had better be prepared to step up and be counted when, one by one, our countrymen and women are falsely smeared and our liberties are purposefully eroded by polished and manicured oligarchs-in-training.
  • Lee Nichols 6 months ago
    AWESOME Herdz, AT LAST the voice of reason. THIS is the very point I've been trying to stress with my comments. Much better said.
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  • Andy Taylor 7 months ago
    Regardless of whether anyone agrees with John's choice of candidates, what occurred here is abominable. The US Constitution doesn't state that freedom of speech and press only applies to public property. We are a police state and people need to recognize that. Believe me, I want Obama to make the changes we need but I also know better, I know who's behind him and who was behind Bush. Obama filled his cabinet with the same people whose loyalties lie with another country and agenda, and that's dangerous. You can go on believing whatever you want but everything has gone according to the plan that was devised at the turn of the 20th Century, Obama and Bush and many before them, are merely puppets. The only president who tried to fight these people was Kennedy when he tried to create another currency through executive order 11110, and when he tried to stop Israel from getting nukes. He lost his life over it.

    Those who are behind the agenda don't care about parties, they'll disguise themselves as whatever party the popular vote will choose, and they'll convince you through their media the candidate they want you to choose. They did it, this is what's happening here.

    Things will not improve, we are getting closer and closer to that one world government, silencing dissenters is part of how it's done.
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  • John Lukens 6 months ago
    Fellow Opinionators, please give the following OPINION POLL the widest possible distribution --
    and Vote .NOW.

    Which of these national policy speakers do you prefer most?

    poll.pollcode.com/ztei
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  • Gilbert Riley 6 months ago
    John,

    You are neither a journalist, nor excellent. You didn't deserve to be let on the campus. Usually strange men with cameras stalking women on college campuses ARE ARRESTED.

    "Journalists", as you claim to be, usually have credentials. I didn't see you displaying any of those.

    "Journalists" (with credentials) are usually given guidelines on coverage, as to where and when they can shoot, unless covering a breaking news event, but even so, must follow the direction of police and fire personnel. (This was a private security force)

    As a "journalist" you should understand what pool coverage means. It does not mean to bring your speedo and suntan lotion.

    "Journalists" do not protest or demonstrate. They cover them, protests and demonstrations. See the Republican Convention. The protest/demonstration areas, are usually somewhere in the same city, sometimes even within a mile of the event.

    I hope this "journalism" is used against you in a court of law. By the way, being arrested for covering a demonstration - that consists only of you - does not violate the freedom of the press.

    You should have been arrested for a/ Trespassing, b/ Disturbing the Peace, c/ resisting arrest (although, I don't think it covers private security, who I though were very nice in not throwing you to the ground, and cracking you over the head... the only thing your cameras were good for)


    I didn't respect you before, and respect you less than than nothing now.

    Also, learn how to hold a mic so you don't look like a bad comedian doing a bad schtick. "Is that a schtick in your hand, or are you just cumming to cover me"... journalisticly that is.


    Were you drunk? Or just an idiot? I hope drunk.


    I was going to come to USC, to watch your dog and pony show, and now I'm sorry I missed it. Damn! It only could have been better had they tazed you ... dude!

    The irony is that you, a heckler, were detained by a guy named Heckelman.


    They only let you go because they couldn't take HOW ANNOYING YOU ARE any longer. You are a terrist, with a newkular idiocy.

    Thanks for the laughs.

    By the way, those marks are what happen when you squirm in handcuffs, but I'm sure your boyfriend has already told you that.


    :-D




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  • Gilbert Riley 6 months ago
    PS. I don't think you should let Orange County Film edit any more of your videos. I don't think he/she likes you.

    And when you say "John Ziegler was not involved the the production or editing of this video in any way" you should not have a title card in the video that says, "MY GUYS always roll sound" Although, you don't say "with this" you say "the the" so I guess I can't call you a liar, only illiterate, a great quality for a "journalist"

    And for those that compare him to Michael Moore, I think Mr. Moore is a "documentarian", and when he doesn't have credentials and is asked "to leave or face arrest," he doesn't pretend he is drunk and/or stupid, he eventually leaves.

    Mr. Ziegler, I hope your career is short, (if you could call it "a career") because it is painful to watch.


    :-D
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  • brian johnson 6 months ago
    Although I agree with ur political views on journalism & katie, the facts are:

    1) u do not have the protection ACCREDITED media is allowed, & those members would have complied with a legal request.

    2) Just because u want to express ur opinion, doesnt give u the right to ignore the rules or laws that you chose to think are ridiculous. If you dont agree with them, then lobby in the proper channels to get them changed.

    3) Those police officers gave you WAY more patience, politeness, leniency than you deserved.

    After you didnt comply with their LEGAL orders the 2nd time, you should have been arrested. When you resisted, both verbally and phyiscally (yes, cry baby, you WERE resisting), they should have just dragged you off and put you in jail.

    Although you are one of the most annoying ppl i have ever listened too, and would LOVE
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  • Josh Kozlowski 6 months ago
    I agree with Gilbert Riley's opening statement (Sarc)

    "Usually strange men with cameras stalking women on college campuses ARE ARRESTED."

    Stop Stalking women John! Jeeze Louise..

    And Brian Johnson's point is well taken:

    "After you didnt comply with their LEGAL orders the 2nd time, you should have been arrested. When you resisted, both verbally and phyiscally (yes, cry baby, you WERE resisting), they should have just dragged you off and put you in jail"

    Did you get that John? Who do you think you are? Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan? Jeeze Louise
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  • Lee Nichols 6 months ago
    Gilbert,
    First, I'm impressed. You actually know what a "comedian doing a bad schtick" looks like. Or in your case does it take one to know one. As for comparing Ziegler to Micheal Moore, the difference is Micheal Moore is only good for making up bogus documentaries, John Ziegler is EXPOSING THE TRUTH. But I guess you wouldn't know what the truth was if it bit you in the ass. Furthermore, you clearly don't know the meaning of the terms "Disturbing the Peace," or "Tresspassing," because if you did you would know that John didn't do either.

    I'm going to say this again; John had every right to be there. He wasn't there to prostest, he intended to attend the ceremony. When he was denied admission he wasn't even allowed to pass out his DVDs. THAT is NOT protesting. You guys need to take your heads out of your butts and realize this.

    The issue is NOT about what credentials you have, the issue is about exposing the unfair coverage, and the lack of real journalism that existed during the campaign and the fact that Obama won due to it all.
  • JC Brown 4 months ago
    How did Mr. Ziegler or anyone else have any right to attend that event? It was a private, invitation-only event, held at a private institution (USC is not a public school), on private property owned by that institution? I'm a huge Palin fan, but I thought Mr. Ziegler was clearly in the wrong and the USC officials acted appropriately.
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  • Actongue 6 months ago
    Ziegler is way out of line and his mental capacity fails to realize certain key points

    They can not let everyone that is press or Media in and have to set the priorities on who gets in. If they let him in then they have to let all the Media in and as the gentleman stated the logistics of the room did not allow it.

    If he wanted in he may well could have arranged for it ahead of time and possible an exception can be made.

    Instead he comes across as arrogant and full of self importance.

    Anyone that acted the way he did in his rude and crass manner should expect to get arrested for disturbing the peace.

    Lee]
    You fail to see the Big Picture

    Palin failed the Interviews not just with Couric but also the Gibson interview.........Read the Transcripts and they prove it.

    Palin Made herself the laughing stock of the world and then she had the "Interview with the Presdient of France"
    audio
    youtube.com/watch?v=CcEiR01QK7o

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-prankcall.htm

    PALIN: That's not my husband but he's a normal American who just works hard and doesn't want government to take his money.

    AVENGERS: Yes, yes, I understand we have the equivalent of Joe the Plumber in France. It's called Marcel, the guy with bread under his armpit.

    PALIN: Right, that's what it's all about, the middle class and government needing to work for them. You're a very good example for us here.

    AVENGERS: I see a bit about NBC, even Fox News wasn't an ally as much as usual.

    PALIN: Yeah, that's what we're up against.

    AVENGERS: Gov. Palin, I love the documentary they made on your life. You know Hustler's Nailin' Paylin?

    PALIN: Ohh, good, thank you, yes.

    AVENGERS: That was really edgy.

    PALIN: Well, good.

    AVENGERS: I really loved you and I must say something also, governor, you've been pranked by the Masked Avengers. We are two comedians from Montreal.

    PALIN: Ohhh, have we been pranked? And what radio station is this?

    AVENGERS: CKOI in Montreal.

    She then after handing the phone off says its from "Montreal France"


    Everyone that is supporting Ziegler fails to Realize that he is not telling the Truth.............He is only telling you the truth as he wants to See it and portray it.........So he is just as Biased
  • Lee Nichols 4 months ago
    If that was "Rude and Crass," then you're DAMN RIGHT Actongue, I DO fail to see the big pitcure. What I saw in that video DOES NOT constitue anything worth of arrest, and simply being "rude and crass" is not a crime. Is that the big picture that you claim I don't see? Furthermore, if it was simply a matter of only select media being allow in which I made reference to in my previous post, which you obviously havn't read, WHY COULDN'T THEY GIVE HIM A STRAIGHT ANSWER ON THIS?????????? Just another mension in my post which again you obviously didn't read. And you say I didn't get the big picture.
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  • Gilbert Riley 6 months ago
    At least this woman had a press pass / credentials.

    news.aol.com/article/reporter-obama-letter/502874?icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl6|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Freporter-obama-letter%2F502874
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  • Brian Corkins 5 months ago
    As a Vermonter, I'm completely used to this treatment through the Newspaper Media. I written hundreds of editorials to the Burlington Free Press, and never have seen my opinion printed. Zieglar is just trying to show people the force that is used only by the liberal media to stomp out any other polictial philosopy. Everyone needs to understand journalism ethics FIRST, before showing your ignorance on this page.
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  • glen prior 5 months ago
    I just saw this shameful video today, June 10, 2009. This is not a conservative/liberal issue. This is a complete violation of the right to free speech. This type of conduct borders on assault and kidnapping. I voted for Obama and I feel that Obama would also look upon this troubling video as something that should not be tolerated.
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  • Greg Hampton 5 months ago
    As a campus law enforcement officer of 25 years experience, and as a life long conservative this video has me somewat conflicted.

    On one hand Zeigler had legitimate points to make, and could have made them quite well within the confines of the guidelines they set out for him. In fact, I think the video would have had more power to highlight his voiced concerns had he been doing so from behind the barricades. Instead he tried the ol' confrontational investigative reporter schtick, which was initially humored until it grew old.

    The college "spokesman" was/is a bit ineffective as a communicator in a stressful environment. Note to politicians out there, don't hire that guy for your press spokesman, he's really not up to the pressure of the job. To his credit though, he never started yelling. He did allow himself to get into a smart alleck tit for tat discussion with a professional smart alleck. always a losing proposition.

    The police/secuity were ok really. They were indecisive because the cameras were there, which from an officer safety stand point, was an incredibly bad idea. Zeigler resisted arrest. The marks on his wrist were do to improperly applied hand cuffs that got applied improplerly because Zeigler was resisting arrest. They could have easily stabalized Zeigler, checked the cuffs for proper application and the double locked them, none of which was done that I could see. They had every right, once he started active resistance, to take hm to the ground (which is what I would have done to neutralize his height) do a more effective job of controllong Zeiglers arms, this making the cuff application smoother.

    The USC campus is owned by the State of California, it is public property, supported by tax dollars. As such Zeigler has constitutional rights to free speech, that he was exercising. Yes he ws bing boorish, yes he was rude, yes he was being a jerk, but he was not disrupting the event.
  • JC Brown 4 months ago
    USC is a private institution, and its campus is private property. The campus police are employees of USC.
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  • waldens1 5 months ago
    To Sgt Are.

    You said " how far do you push things to get your point across. Two wrongs don't make a right."

    I am just glad our founders did not feel that way or we would all still be subjects of the British Crown!
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  • Kevin G 5 months ago
    I don't understand the confusion.

    1. They asked you to move. You didn't. You sat down on the ground. Clearly even when they tried to pull you off the grounds you tried not to budge. That is considered resisting, and any sort of the action has possible legal action

    2. for those who don't know, any events of the type held on campus require the award-winners consent for any media form to be included inside, not just for the sake of seating but in the best interest of the winner. If it was a liberal getting arrested at a conservatist function the comments would be exactly reversed.

    3. Private or public property, the security guards were within their rights to move someone being disruptive off the premises. If I am standing in front of a Wal-Mart handing out 'don't shop at wal-mart' videos, i am disrupting their business. The same goes for this situation. I hear initially you attempted to start a protest, but changed it at the last minute. This shows your ultimate intentions.

    All in all, this just reminds me why I choose to stay neutral. Are we really going to go through this everytime a new president is elected? If we are, I refuse to associate myself with either side.

    And by the way, for everyone saying freedom of speech/journalism/whatever else is going down the drain, all news, information, and anything else has had a biased view. Nothing can be explained completely objectively and in its entirety, and even then the individual will determine their own views on a given subject. It's time to get over it and wait 4 years for your next chance at glory. and that goes for both liberals and conservatives.
  • Lee Nichols 4 months ago
    Kevin,
    Nice try convincing us that you're neutral, but I ain't biting. I'm not quite that guilible. Now as to your points,
    First, the reason John didn't leave is because NOBODY gave him an explanation as to why he didn't belong there. I would need a reason before I left. THAT is NOT resisting arrest. Even Greta Van Sustran thinks John's rights were violated. Of course this doesn't mean anything if you think you're smarter than Greta inspite of her experience. Second, it was one thing to not allow him in, but he was not allowed anywhere near the entrance which in that case they exceeded their mandate. And if this had been a liberal, I would be just as critical. Do not pretend to know me that you would suggest otherwise.
    Finally, I don't know what video you watched but obviously not the one on this website. If you had, you would know that John was NOT disruptive, nor did he try to start a protest. He just wanted some straight answers, and neither the guards nor any of the organizers would give him any answers except he had to be several hundred feet from the building. My gosh, if he was trying to start a protest where were the other people that were supposed to be with him. Again, I can only wonder what video you saw. And you expect me to think you're neutral. Sheesh.
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  • Asiatic Al 5 months ago
    I am certain that you all are familiar with the phrase "You can't fight City Hall?" Kudos to John for trying. You might not like the guy, but it is, and was his constitutional right to be present at that event. I never heard of John Ziegler until I watched this video. I can honestly say that I was completely unbiased upon viewing it.

    As a man of higher then average intelligence, I can sympathize with both parties in this, let's call it a "dispute", even though it was more like a "Debacle". The campus security did not act on their own accord. You can clearly see they were in contact with an unknown person via radio, and just following orders. Had they not done so I am sure their jobs would have been placed in jeopardy.

    As far as Waldens1's comment:

    "To Sgt Are.

    You said " how far do you push things to get your point across. Two wrongs don't make a right."

    I am just glad our founders did not feel that way or we would all still be subjects of the British Crown!"

    This is exactly it in a nutshell. Had we as colonists turned and walked away at the behest of British soldiers, we would all be speaking with a British accent and taking tea daily at 4PM. We must stand up for what we believe in. We all do so in our own way. This was John's way. In acting the way his opposition did, they further solidified his point and gave much credit to his cause.

    Herdz Catz put it in the most prolific way. Unfortunately most of the comments posted here are by individuals who lack the education to understand his/her words.

    "As obnoxious as John may be, he is shedding light on a dramatic journalistic injustice done to Gov. Palin by our media "elite". As uncomfortable as I am at this form of civil disobedience, we had better be prepared to step up and be counted when, one by one, our countrymen and women are falsely smeared and our liberties are purposefully eroded by polished and manicured oligarchs-in-training."

    I like Obama. I believe he was the best choice out of the candidates we had to choose from. Was the media slanted in his direction? You would have to be both deaf and blind to think otherwise. Was it the soul reason he won the presidency? Absolutely not! It definitely didn't hurt his campaign.

    Had John McCain picked any other running mate but Sarah Palin, I believe the race would have been much closer. Obama still would have won in my opinion, but this is pure conjecture. Palin had many strikes on the board just entering the race. One, she was unfairly targeted due to her good looks; and two, her unwed teenage daughters pregnancy. These two examples are just the most obvious and the most exploited.

    Politics is a dirty game my fellow Americans. It takes a person with the sort of morale flexibility found only in the Animal Kingdom. Namely, a Lion. Lion's are strong protectors’ of their pride. However, they sit by while the lionesses do the hunting. They also have the ability to commit "infanticide". For all those unfamiliar with this act, please take a moment to read the definition from the link I provided for you. This one word/act sums up most politicians.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_(zoology)

    You are free to think, speak, write, and post anything your heart desires. This is what makes America better then most other nations. You don't have to agree with the way John handled himself on this video. You do however have to recognize his right as a Untied States citizen to do so. What takes place on this video only differs from the events at Tiananmen Square by the absence of tanks and his death.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989

    Remember my friends:

    "A Politician will always be there when he needs you"

    -Ian Walsh (UK) (OF GOBBS AND WORMS AND OTHER THINGS)

    -Asiatic Al
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  • Michael Park 5 months ago
    To be fair, you were moderately funny and it was amusing watching you try not to cry.
    I'd like it noted I dont give a shit about american politics, your country affects mine in many ways but the party leading makes little difference.
    Reason you're not allowed in: You weren't invited, you didnt win anything. Try to understand it.
    You should look up the definition of irony. An example of irony: A firestation on fire, not you, someone claiming to be a journalist (Who is in fact a radio presenter) being refused admittance to a private, invitation only ceremony (to which you were not invited).
    In future, don't spin things your way, if you're right, they'll dig their own hole. Twisting others words isnt a great way to enamour you in the eyes of the public.
  • Lee Nichols 4 months ago
    Micheal, I would love to see how you would react in that situation, or in any situation where you feel you're rights are being violated. You may think you're too good to have that happen to you, but the next time the Govt. moves in on someone it could be you. And then we'll get to watch you struggle not to cry. And in the future, why don't you watch the right video since you obviously didn't see this accurately.
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  • Paul Regis 5 months ago
    Very good, went all Michael Moore on them. Yes, they were in their Legal Right, but woe to a country that looses its compass and relies only on the hard law. People without internal compass for right and wrong , won't uphold the law much longer. (sorry for my English, It is a second language to me)
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  • Brenton Steinhilber plus 5 months ago
    You know exactly what the rules are. You were harassing that security guard, chasing after him with a camera and mic in his face, and just all around being a shit disturber. You went in there trying to cause a commotion. What did you expect to happen? Is there any way, other than giving you exactly what you want, that you would have let this end in any other way than you getting dragged off by security? You made this happen, you're a shit disturber. That's all.
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  • Bill Phillips 4 months ago
    USC is public property. They can't deny anyone's freedom of speech or freedom of the press on public property. Ziegler should have submitted to arrest and sued them for everything they're worth.

    Many of the commenters here need to read the Constitution and understand our right to free speech. The ignorance is disappointing.
  • JC Brown 4 months ago
    USC is a private institution, and its campus is not public property.
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  • JC Brown 4 months ago
    Mr. Zeigler, I'm a Palin fan and I traveled out of state on my own dime to serve as an attorney on her and McCain's Election Day Operations team in November. I thought the famous Couric interview was an unfair hit job. I have really enjoyed the parts of your documentary that I've seen. But I found your conduct at USC embarrassing and inappropriate.

    As a parent of a kid who begins broadcast journalism studies at the USC Annenberg School for Communications next month, I am quite happy to see that the campus police are polite, respectful, professional and give a person every chance to comply with established rules and their directives before finally enforcing compliance as they had to do with you. You richly deserved the treatment you received. You ought to reconsider those sorts of tactics, by the way, and you ought to realize that posting videos like this one do nothing to bolster your credibility.
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