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This was great - beautiful job. I think you're really starting to trade-mark that shot of the spinning camera angles ;)
I want to like this way more than just once!
people kill each other not religion...
people do nonsense not religion...
religion can be either right or wrong...
and that right or wrong is not a topic of debate but a topic of investigation...
you cant blame a belief for an action
you can only blame a person for an action
you say there is no such thing called sin...
but even away from religion guilt exists...
not just in humans but even animals..
ever seen a cat steal food from the table..
the ears the eyes the head turning back in shyness when you corner her as she thinks ur going to harm her..
even a kitten understood the concept of wrong...which is initially to religion what a sin is...
Christians look at homosexuals, and feel as if these people are different than them. They feel angered, and hatred. Brought on through illogical conclusions, and some fucked up idea that they are 'sinners'.
The whole idea of 'sinners' is ridiculous. A fictionous book dictating these laws that people should abide by. They teach moral values, and people blindly accept them without questioning. They label homsexuals as 'wrong' without thinking about it scientifically, and especially evolutionary. They don't ask themselves, "what is the difference between us?" They simply dismiss them completely. Why are there homosexuals? Well, for various reasons. Particularly various levels of estrogen, and other PHYSICAL factors. Not to say, a man who is considered to have a very normal cognitive makeup, cannot be gay.
So where does this anger come from, this hatred?
Well, that is also an evolutionary thing. As people feel pride in belonging to a group, and people feel satisfaction from belittling another group, as well as doing what is 'right'.
We have a tendency to base our actions purely on emotion, without any logic. Many people are simply unable to think in a logically manner, due to lack of education... and well.. the heavy influence of other views... religion.
Religion is fucking ridiculous. And by all means, I'm not calling all religious people stupid. I mean, if you were living in a rural village in Africa, and witnessed lightening... well of course you'd associate it with a 'higher power'.
But it just amazes me that people in educated societies, blindly follow the ridiculous rules, that other people, yes people not gods, created well before most scientific findings. It's ignorant, and it is a huge issue.
Mike, you yourself said "They teach moral values, and people blindly accept them without questioning." Who's fault is this? Individuals. To say that people are forced to believe under threat of Hell is a fallacy of circular reasoning as well, as, who's choice is it to believe in Hell? Who's choice is it to even believe in God? As good as people can be, there are some ignorant mother fuckers out there.
Religion is not to blame for stupidity. If one chooses to stay ignorant, it is a personal choice.
The majority (seriously, look it up) of Christian religions encourage personal questioning and finding a balance between logic and faith. Without faith, we are can know nothing. Without logic (having only faith), we are useless zombies.
Mike, if you continue to think the way you do, with all this hate built up in you, there is no difference between you and the sheep that blindly reject homosexuality.
We have precious little time on Earth. Let us love everyone.
Oh, and great video Matthew. Extremely moving and thought provoking.
You say 'what of religions that doesn't hate homosexuals?' There is only one religion which doesn't condemn gays & lesbians. Its Buddhism and even that is disputed as a religion.
You also state 'To say that people are forced to believe under threat of Hell is a fallacy of circular reasoning as well, as, who's choice is it to believe in Hell?' Its not a fallacy at all. As a child brought up catholic I know very well this experience. If you questioned the faith you were punished. You're trying to say that a child who is going to be punished by his teachers, priests, nuns and parents (their entire authoritative world) & ostracised from their peers for not believing in religion is actually choosing to believe. Thats not choice its a dictatorship.
Most Christian religions do not encourage children to question their faith. There's no looking up needed. I experienced it. Later on adults are able to debate various issues but by then the damage is done. The belief that the bible is in fact the word of god is entrenched. You cannot underestimate the power of indoctrination of children during their young formative years.
Mike is not as you state showing hatred at all, he's just saying it as it is. The bible is not the word of god its written by man. After centuries of institutionally sanctioned suffering, suppression, hatred and murder at the hands of religion and churches do you not expect a little anger to be reflected back at them especially as Catholicism and the Pope are still teaching that having a normal healthy relationship with someone of the same sex is a sin? You say there is 'precious little time on Earth. Let us love everyone.' I agree whole heartedly with the statement but where is the love from the Pope towards gay people? You can't expect people not to be critical of religion and accuse them of hatred if they are.
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This movie is great, I liked it...
Some where along the line God got hijacked by religion and religion got hijacked by biggots and lost all it's merit in this world. Though the good news is that we will defeat it.
Very profound piece Matthew....
Eloquently stated. It is such a heartbreaking thing that has happened.
Film festivals are wonderful - our second feature has played over 70 film festivals now - but don't discount Vimeo, and the web, as a venue for sharing films. This clip has over 47,000 views. It would have to play over 150 film festivals to have an audience that wide.
Beautiful job, Matthew.
BTW, this was brought to my attention by the Critics webisode with Steve Zacuto. Thanks to Steve and Philip Bloom for sharing it.
Shooting, tone and pace - sweet and strong but not in your face
The essence of all human difference issues is that stupid idea we have to understand it all, so in this case, if a person cant understand homosexuality, than it's bad ... when the truth is that everything is not ment to be understood by everyone... the thing is too just accept the fact, because either way the fact is what it is and that will never ever change.
"There are two infinite things: The universe and human stupidity. I'm not so sure of the first one" - Albert Einstein -
I am not religious myself, but I will say this... somewhere in history religion really seems to have diverted from the beautiful potential it had for positive change and reformation. Somewhere along the lines it turned from a mechanism that could have been used for enrichment, into a mechanism utilized to deliver hatred under the guise of faith.
At any rate, I sincerely hope that in the future we stop looking for divinity amongst the pages of outdated books and find the divinity that we are all capable of as human beings.
I sincerely hope that you are not the victim of such persecution, though I feel that even if not being persecuted directly, you feel the brunt of the bigotry that exists...
Excellent video Matthew!
Three words: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. Why would we want to deprive anyone of any of these rights. The conversation should be over, unless those three words don't apply to EVERYONE in 2009. As far as I’m concerned, the constitution does not exclude gays; consequently, they should have the same right to marry as straight people do under liberty & pursuit of happiness. They shouldn’t have to be humiliated with us having to vote to give them rights that the constitution already guarantees them. Here’s the part that gets me, so many of the right feel that gay marriage will somehow hurt straight marriage. Straight marriage doesn’t have such a great record of success, they really should keep their mouth shut. I would think they would be a little embarrassed.
Well done Matthew, you've broached a subject that should really not be a subject but unfortunately is.
Mitchell,
Well put. Religion could be such a force for nice and good, but unfortunately I don’t see that. Even in its lightest forms it’s extremism to me, with their mission to be to convert me. It's a lot of: if you don't believe what I do, I will have to force my opinion on you, or they need to save people. Why can’t they just hand their shingle out there and if people show up fine, if not, leave the rest of us alone.
The real problem in all of this is tolerance, if we as a people can have tolerance toward something different, we wouldn’t have any problems both political and religious. And that’s a big IF?
well done sir.
the fact that it inspired many great comments alone shows it's worth.
I’m so glad to see you using your art to make a statement and take a stand. Just today I was telling some of my video students about the “essay” genre of documentary filmmaking, and I used your work as a prime example of it. I told them that this genre can be a very effective vehicle for making political and philosophical statements, both good and bad (as an example of the bad, I referred to Leni Riefenstahl’s work for the Nazis). So I was delighted to find a message from you today, watch this piece and read the wave of mostly positive comments you have gotten from viewers.
You are taking a genre of filmmaking that can be merely “warm and fuzzy” and giving it a real edge. Where many filmmakers with your talents would be using them to make car commercials, you are going out on a limb, baring your beliefs and your soul.
Thanks for having the courage and clarity to make this movie and share it with the world. I understand more and more why Kenney Smith admires you so much and says that Matthew Brown is “his own man” and “one of a kind.”
Have always had a hard time differentiating the light from the dark. But now that I see light outside, and hear dark in my mind, it's nice to know that I can't dissociat the light I saw in your work.
Prophetic muxh? Would like to think that there are those in our world open-minded enough to recognize that there is beauty in this world beyond what they are comfortable with.
Will pass to the next person I meet with an open mentality.
Just wish it wasn't such a trek to find one.
Much love.
Thank you for this video nevertheless.
And yes, your video is that powerful, also because of the speeches included.
"It's an ABOMINATION!!!" < Very dramatic. :)
i love
It confirms that I am NOT confused in any way about being gay. It just is and I am proud of it.
If you think that the fanatical and very powerful political homosexuality movement is all flowers and respectability then you are seriously illusioned. America is on the road to socialism and State indroctination. As is already happening in other countries further down that road than yours, wherever the State moves in on the lives of your young children, they will be targetted by political homosexuality. And when your five year old sons are being taught about the pleasures of homosexual sex in the classroom, political homosexuals will use the law to silence the dissent of rightly concerned parents.
Political homosexuality has nothing to do with liberty and classical liberal values. At all.
The individuals in your film are having fun. Good for them. That's how it should be. Loving friends enjoying life together.
"And when your five year old sons are being taught about the pleasures of homosexual sex in the classroom, political homosexuals will use the law to silence the dissent of rightly concerned parents."
I respect your views on gays, but this video is meant for people like you, so I hope it sticks with you.
I really think you should watch the video again so you can shake off your political spin on it. This video is about love and putting out the wildfire of discrimination.
By the way, no one is going to teach a five-year-old about the pleasures of gay sex. I don't know anyone who teaches a five-year-old the pleasures of ANY sex. You're blowing everything out of proportion. Sorry to say, but you are.
"I respect your views on gays..." You mean my views on political homosexuality. I have homosexual colleagues and friends. The political spin "I" put on it is pickled throughout the comments prior to my own. By "people like you" I assume you have a straw man ready made for me? Copyright of the academy or the media?
"By the way, no one is going to teach a five-year-old about the pleasures of gay sex." Might I point you towards some State-schools in the UK for a refutation of that line? Parents are set to be fined and children will be treated as truants if parents pull them out of, what amounts to, State-funded homosexual indoctrination classes. For prepubescent children. Hundreds of thousand of pounds were spent "researching" the recommendations for the policy.
Political homosexuals are also set to make it illegal (carrying a prison sentence) to link homosexuals to pedofilia. This bill passed through the Lords with a mere one hour of "scrutiny". There are many more instances of these kinds of things. As I said, some countries are further down the path that America is now on. You can see into the future if you look without prejudice and learn to accept some unsavoury "off-message" truths.
As always, a lovely video (see the last paragraph of my previous comment). Keep up the good work. Nice to cross swords with a gentleman.
Sory but as a product of the UK's education system, and a gay man I call bullshit on this one. Would like to see hard proof (not conjecture) because when I grew up there was not a smidgen of anything that reflected who I was in school.
And in the end, that's what it's about - not teaching anything, especially 5 year olds who don't really have an idea of sexuality yet anyway - but if once there had been something that reflected who I was I would not have spent most of my childhood feeling painfully alone.
That's the real danger...making kids feel like they're the only one, or freaks...look at the suicide stats, being gay like being straight cannot be taught; but those could be prevented.
I think Tom you read too much of the Daily Mail where they twist facts. There is NO 'indoctrination classes' at all. Why would any sane parent have an objection to schools teaching that there is more than one sexual orientation and you don't choose it. Who would want their children to be taught only a small amount of facts with regard to maths and sciences? Why edit out information? Should we really be like the Nazis who burnt books which contained things that when against their bigoted views? The idea that our children SHOULDN'T be given a full education on every subject is abhorrent. Its very telling that conservatives have to resort to lies about teaching children about sex to get an objection. The simple and and less offensive truth is that children are getting a good, solid education about the world around them which will make them well adjusted, intelligent and knowledgable citizens when they graduate.
I was responding to 'The Watcher' who has long left Vimeo it seems...
(edit : your description in the group Vimians got me wrong too "Mother Nature would have to disagree...")
I was already writing a forum post about a discriminate video recently added.
That should give me a lesson.