no, other way around, front camera is A1, right side is S10,
nice , ah?

Good footage Paramon. Is the HFS 10 better than the XHA1??? In this test, you bet ya. Clearly the EX1 is in another league, but the other two is a real surprise.

I think another big thing with this is the difference between the A1 and EX1. The colours, vibrancy & definition is miles apart.

Im totaly sold by the HF-S10 (100). It will be my next camera. Paramon, where can I find an apropriate lens hood for HF-s10?

Thank you paramon! Ordered an HFS100 today. I have been watching your videos and they have been very helpful. Yes I will also keep my EX1, yet this camera will travel with me all the time. I purchased a Sanyo Xacti HD2000 a couple weeks back and the video jitters, I have tried everything and it is still poor. Your video with the VPC FH1 - you stated it was very windy that day, ok - but I can see the "Sanyo jitter" in that camera as well. Must be something with the Sanyo, even on a tripod the video will still jitter and it gets REAL bad with the image stabilization on.

Thanks again!

P.S. I have a brand new Sanyo Xacti HD2000 for sale :-)

How did you record the music? It sounds very good!

Thanks for the guessing game, Paramon. I watched it a couple of times and could see the quality of the EX-1, but the other two cameras had me wondering!! As usual, another excellent Paramon demo!

I am close to get me a HF S10 and this helped me a lot.

Glad it did,
:)

I have shot some stage performance with HF S100 and so I felt a familiarity and guessed correctly(key word guessed) --that said, the price difference doesn't compensate the very minor difference in performance betw 100 and A1 as far as this and other comparisons you've posted --

how far from stage were the camera's? appearance is about 20-25 feet, and that could be why portrait setting wotked so well here -- I recently shot a stage presentation using a variety of settings, but I was about 100 feet from stage, and the lighting and background were brighter and more reflective -- in that situation the Auto/Fluorescent2 WB setting worked the best -- one caveat tho' i was standing on a chair and had to hold the camera up & away from my body to get over audience heads, and there was some shaking --even a little bit sometimes has a big influence especially in more challenging settings


BTW I have also mentioned yellowish look to HF S100 video, but white balancing does remove that, sometimes it requires a setting you wouldn't think -- I shot a parade in cloudy weather, and again the auto/fluorescent2 WB setting showed the best results --go figure

anyway, your excellent and helpful Camcorder Public Service Video is always very helpful

Hi

Is the following SDHC card OK for the Canon HF S10?

SanDisk SDHC ULTRA II 32GB Card - Class 2

Many thanks for all the hard work you have put in.

I'm just in the process of buying the HF S10.

Thanks for reply paramon.

So class 4 and 6 are OK - yes/no?

Do I need to go higher than 8GB

See: mymemory.co.uk/SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-Extreme-III-SDHC---Class-6

I can't find a class 4 or 6 16GB/32GB

Any SDHC recommendation would be greatly appreciated?

Much appreciated for taking the time to reply.

I love your video clips - keep at it!

Just found this 32GB class 6 card on Amazon - what do you think?

amazon.co.uk/Integral-32Gb-SDHC-Class-Reader/dp/B001UTE1AA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1242916932&sr=8-1

Much appreciated!

loved the dancing and the dancer was right on.

Hi Paramon,

I am a new comer on Vimeo. Your videos are really great. Is this one is also shot with "MB looks" ? What is "MB looks" and how to set it up on the HF S10 ? Thanks again.

The HFS footage looked slightly richer than A1.

Of course the EX blew them both out of the water.

:)

A1 is a little bit better.. but HFS is very close!! Very much worth the money :) Thanks for sharing

This helps as I am considering the EX1.

Tomorrow I am sending back the TM300. Even though it allowed better low light performance VS the HF S100 at 60i 0db AWB and the picture quality suffered at low light once the gain increased.

even with the compressed web version you can see that the ex1 is sharper than the other two cams. I think I will be returning my hv30 for the hfs100 soon. The hfs100 manual gain feature is what is really dragging me towards it.

The wider shoot are from the EX1, the medium is the HF-S10 and the "portrait" (more zoom) is the XH-A1, rigth ?

Without doubt, XH-A1 and HFS10 looks similar in this sample.

For this kind of static shoot, did you try Reflex machines, such as Canon 500D, or Nikon D5000, or Panasonic GH1 ? Those machine could be good for this kind of shoot, no ?

Hi paramon i'd like to hear your advise i own and hv30 and let me tell you taht i'm stunnig with the quality a futures of the S10 or S100 i don't know if i should get the s10 or s100 for $279 difference..... It will be woth it? please......


Thanks

For the price difference, with exactly the same machine except the embedded flash memory, the price is NOT justified... A card cost 30$ not more. So you save 249$ ($279-30$), or you can buy lots of memory cards for the same price

OK, so I am so disturbed. Does the Canon HF-S10's video look plasticky? (What the heck does plasticky mean anyways?)

I read somewhere that CMOS sensors produce "plastic-like" videos, while CCD produce more "film-like" videos.

So, does the HF-S10's quality look plasticky? Thanks!

Oh, and which among these two camcorders have the better video quality: The HF S10 or the HF20? I read somewhere that the HF20's quality is way better. I find this hard to believe. Any opinions?

Not to float my own boat,, but I was able to tell after watching it once, Although I own an xha1s,hehehe,
Any ways great work. IM considering the sony, it's just the price that hurts so in this crappy economy.

I just posted 4 a few reasons:
1) THANKS to all of you for you videos and comments etc.
2) I just bought an HFS10 in Japan last weekend after LOTSA thinking and reading on here

I know some Japanese (was there visiting wife's family) and was relieved that the S10's on screen menus could be displayed in English.

Just got back to Australia, have downloaded an English manual, but there's no mention of the best way to connect to a Mac.

Anyone able to give me a few quick hints?

I have FCP 5.0.4 which I use with my old DV cams, but I guess it's not the best version to be using for the new camera.

a link to a "How To" would be handy.

Once again, thanks so much for your reviews, feedback thoughts etc.

I was SUPER RETICENT about moving from the safety (?) of having BOXES of tapes and not relying on computers, external drives etc after I film a band (still am I must admit).

I hope I haven't made a mistake. There's never a better time than the present to get organised I spose !

I film A LOT of bands and have FINALLY moved to a better quality cam - too late i gotta say, but hey, it's a hobby...... glad i can FINALLY have at least ONE camera with stunning pic quality....

I'm wondering how people on here "archive" or save your recordings.

i.e. do you import them using FCP every time you shoot?

or do you "drag and drop" or copy the folders from the HFS10 onto a hard drive?

the reason i'm asking is that I haven't yet bought the latest FCP, or FC Studio. I guess I will have to purchase it soon, but I think I should first upgrade my MacBook Pro as it has only 2.16GHz Processor and 2 GB of memory.

I shot a band a few weeks back and have "archived" the gig onto a hard drive by copying ALL of the folders on the Canon over to an external Hard Drive.

do you think this will enable me to watch/edit at a later date?

I haven't yet erased it from the camera, but will need to do so in about a week as I have 4 band performances to shoot in about a week and a half.

I know i should go out and buy a new iMac with 4GB of RAM and the new Final Cut Studio, but that's pretty bloody extravagant in dollar terms.

Any hints?

By the way paramon: using the above method to copy the data from the camera, could i drag / import the mts files from the folder on my external drive INTO neoscene for the conversion you mention ?

I guess what I'm trying to ask out of all this is:

can i just copy from the camera and paste into a folder so i can mess around playing / editing later...?

i bought Neoscene.

seems to work great.

i gotta determine the best settings to maintain FULL quality.

what do you guys do for these settings:

Image processing during conversion:
- telecine removal (24p extraction from 60i)
- deinterlacing (30p/25p from 60i/50i)

any hints ? a dummies guide for telecine and deinterlacing ?

Did you use WB presets on all cameras or did you manually balance them? I cannot imagine how do you balance cameras in "colored" light.

Did you shoot in 24p? In this mode the HF-S gets additional stop and a half of sensitivity compared to 60i, and it looks like this pretty much evens the game with the A1. Interesting. The TM300 should not be far behind, no more than half a stop in 24p mode, thus the HMC40 should be the same. On the other hand, I've read that the HMC40 is about 3 stops slower than the HMC150, which is about as fast as the A1. You say that the HF-S is usable, others say that the HMC40 is unusable, but it should be at most half-stop slower. My head hurts.

the one camera more to the front like is more film looking while the one to the right of the stage is more video like. nice piece. would love to see the whole clip and nice dark stuff.

I borrowed a HF-s10 for one night and put my Xh-A1 on Ebay the next day. There is actually no comparison. The Xh-A1 has all the hardware we are used to..connectors etc, but even the MV-20/30 are better than it, and the HF-s10/100 are better than that. There is no way to configure the 27 menu settings on the Xh-A1 to look even nearly as good as a HF-S10. I tried..and I'm a broadcast engineer.
Single chip is the new three-chip. One more product cycle and they will match the low-light sensitivity and add the connectors and controls. It won't be in a DSLR.

i have recently converted a bunch of my HFS's .MTS files to .mov files using Neoscene and for some stupid reason, 3 out of 10 conversions have SUPER buzz through the audio.

you can KINDA hear the proper audio, but basically it just sounds like a swarm of bees.

anyone know why?

the picture plays perfectly


and another issue, the camera automatically creates a new MTS file after 11:20 sec


this invariably happens in the middle of a song.

when I then import the Converted files Mov files into Final Cut Pro I get a distortion of the video as the playhead passes from one file to the next.

i'm laying down the audio track and playing the video over the top of it, so when that wobble between video files occurs, the video also goes out of synch with the audio track.

any hints.

i'm starting to get pretty annoyed with my decision to buy this stupid camera with all these idiosyncracies.