Recorded in the early 1980's.

This is actually two sessions. In the first session, she looks through my binder of my writings and press clippings [I usually showed my binder to people who I approached on the street asking them to be in my film]. She and I talk deeply explicitly about life, art, healing, erotic play, etc. As we talk, we start to rub each other.

Cut to the second session. We are on the mat. I am nude. She soon will be. Gestures quickly fade away as a context. We rub and talk within an aroused erotic intimacy.

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