
Maestro
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1. Maestro
6 months ago
A young musician stifled by the modern day schooling system tries to find his way to make his mark.
Written, Directed, Edited, and Scored By Matthew Fredrick
Sound Production By Michael Badal
Starring Zach Gallen, Tosh Sivertson, Kevin Trang, and Charles Iacuzzo.
Shot on two HV20s with the Twoneil adapters.
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If you like the music in the film, go to our website and contact me because we can score your short. Depending on the film and if your a student or not the price will be extremely cheap. The great thing is that you dont have to live by us, we can just download it and you can tell us what you want. We can work to make it a masterpiece!
musicmentality.com
Twitter: mfredrick
Rosetheoryfilms
Written, Directed, Edited, and Scored By Matthew Fredrick
Sound Production By Michael Badal
Starring Zach Gallen, Tosh Sivertson, Kevin Trang, and Charles Iacuzzo.
Shot on two HV20s with the Twoneil adapters.
Check out my new channels
vimeo.com/channels/shadows
vimeo.com/channels/originalscore
PS
If you like the music in the film, go to our website and contact me because we can score your short. Depending on the film and if your a student or not the price will be extremely cheap. The great thing is that you dont have to live by us, we can just download it and you can tell us what you want. We can work to make it a masterpiece!
musicmentality.com
Twitter: mfredrick
Rosetheoryfilms
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very good real/
BRAVO~!
quick question, how did you get the shots through the tall grass to come out so smooth? steadicam?
Yea your dead on, I used a steady cam (homemade, PVC pipes and counter weight $15-20) then I put the weights on the top to get the camera low to the ground. Then in final cut I added the effect "steadycam" and took the settings down a notch. The effect wont work though unless your shots are relatively smooth already. Hope it helps. If you have any more questions just ask!
The music is awesome...!!
I have logged your Contact Number but I am not so sure that I'm good enough for you!
Well done indeed.
Good work man and thanks for watching
Unheard of for online videos.
Your music is very intense and cinematic (was it done using a program or mixed from live instrumentals?). I'd be happy for you to do some music for our films if I could see some more of your work and get a larger feel for your style and musical personality.
Well its a mixture of both, as you can see on a picture above my play count we did some live recordings. The orchestral music is written by me but not live, I use logic from apple to write the music, it is a completely original score (no samples/ loops...thats cheating haha) with electronic instruments.
Im working on completing my site that will show you everything that Music Mentality is capable of, we vary from electronic, trance, symphonic, rock, alternative you name it. It would be incredible to work with you on any project. When the site is up and done I will send you a link.
First of all, the editing was competent, and so was the camera work (I'm sure the fact you had two cameras helped a great deal). However, I wasn't actually pleased with the music. There was a LOT of potential on it, but I thought it was way over the top. WAY over the top. Especially on the last scene. This sort of epic, powerful, in-your-face kind of music is too exagerated, and even worse: it has become a cliche.
Although I did enjoy the way you enhanced the music, with the teacher touching the notes with his finger. That was a nice touch (pardon the pun).
The other thing that could be improved is the writing. There is no real conflict on it. It goes something like this: "Student is worried he will not get in good schools. Teacher tells him to write a musical track. He writes the track. The End".
You see? 'm sure you must know that conflict is the foundation of every story. And there is no real conflict in here. So this short becomes actually an exercise on aesthetics and cutting (in which it is extremely competent).
Besides, the first scenes, with the peer and the math teacher was completely unnecessary.
So, what I'm trying to say is that you nailed all the technical aspects of it. But you could improve in storytelling and narrative structure, and perharps coming up with a more proper ending next time. When I thought we were coming to a climax, the movie ended, and I wanted to see more of it.
So let's see what comes next. I'll eagerly await for your next project.
Oh, and before I finish this already-too-long post, just wanted to say that the DOF was too shallow for my taste, and there seemed to be enough light for you to stop down to f/4, maybe? Just wondering.
And if you could maybe PM me with some rates and prices of your scoring services, that would be good. Maybe you could score one of my projects in the future?
Cheers!
PS: Sorry the poor grammar. I'm in kind of a hurry now.
In reality I only used two cameras in the opening math scene and the confrontation with the math teacher. All the scenes that followed I never took it out of the bag (it was either that we were strapped on time or didn't have enough people to handle both cameras)
Now when you say that the music has a lot of potential, in what aspect do you mean?
I agree wholeheartedly on my story, there is no real conflict, the sad thing was I knew that when we were going into production. But we went in with a decent story just because it was for a class and I was required to write it in one week and start filming the next. (Now I know I have to keep writing so I have better stories on hand) The ending was always problematic for me, no matter which way I did it, it just didn't seem better.
I believe had there been more of a conflict the music may have fit and seemed less dramatic. The point of the music though was that it was intentionally written to be more of what Elliot is hearing in his head rather then just scoring the film.
Now, the DOF is a tricky thing. This was actually my first footage ever recorded with it, sadly. I really did not have any time to play with it before I received it. The thing about the DOF is that if I were to put it down to f/4 it would have heavily vignetted the footage beyond repair. If you notice the footage in the final cut above I have applied a "reverse vignette" (a white vignette) to counteract the black edges. I think maybe I could have taken the exposure of the camera down a little.
Since I have not been using the DOF for very long, when you say you would have preferred it if it was not so shallow. Meaning you would have liked it if you could see more in the background?
I really have to start experimenting because even though all the tutorials say that the focusing screen should be at a certain position i find that when i move it i can achieve different depths of field.
Anyways I will soon have a finished site in where you can check out all the info on our scoring hopefully by the end of this week or next. And we would love to work with you in the future.
I liked your feedback a lot it was very helpful and maybe when im finished writing my next script i can send it your way to see what you think? Let me know.
Thanks for watching!
Okay, then. Let's go by parts (I have the feeling my previous post was a complete mess)
1 - When I say the music has a lot of potential, I mean, it is obvious you have talent. I mean I can see you scoring movies. It was just in this particular case that I thought it was too exagerated. But when you said that "Elliot is hearing in his head rather then just scoring the film. " , that got me thinking a little.
I hadn't seen things that way, and that's a very interesting point. So maybe if you had started playing the music while Elliot wrote it, instead of while the teacher read it, that would have worked better. Yeah, that would be good. To find a way of showing that the music is Elliot's mind and vision.
2 - Now, the DOF. This is a VERY tricky thing. You are using Twoneil's right? Do you have an achomat? And what lenses did you use?
I am personally not a big fan of 35mm adapters (and I don't even have, just to be clear). The biggest problem I see in the whole dof adapter sub-culture is the fact that most people who buy 35mm adapters don't use it for anything but test footage. I'm glad to see you actually used yours for composition matters.
The other problems are the extreme softness and blur, and the VERY shallow dof. I believe that the adapter's purpose is to add a more filmic, professional quality to the footage. Simply, to make it look like film.
However, even though movies have shallow dof, it is not nearly as shallow as the dof provided by these adapters. So what do these adapters actually do? They make footage that looks extremely artificial. Not like film. That's why the aperture can't be wide open.
Unfortunately, 35mm adapters are an extremely complicated issue, hard to be discussed online. It depends on the way people use it, the lenses used on it, the way they were mounted, the ground glass quality, etc., and so the results vary greatly from user to user.
However, I am considering buying a Twoneil, if I come to the conclusion it can actually be of GOOD use for me, storytelling-wise (and I've seen some people achieve impressively sharp results).
And also, what mode did you shoot on? Cine or TV Mode?
3 - I'm anxiously waiting for your website now. Will be checking it at soon as it is online. I am probably going to spend the last half of 2009 working on a short film project I have sketched out, and music would be an essential part of it.
And of course, if you want me to take a look at your screenplay, just let me know.
But take my advices and comments with caution hehe. I'm not a professional, neither am I working in the industry. These are just the ideas and opinions of a independent filmmaker/film student (although I believe my opinions are pretty solid hahahahahaha)
I really like the depth of field with the adapter but it really lacks sharpness unless you spend a while focusing each shot perfectly. When theres a time crunch (which there always is) its hard. Anyways, if you ever do receive info on how they achieve really sharp footage with the adapter let me know.
I actually shot the entire film in cine mode. I have heard there is a trick for full control of aperture and shutter in tv mode but i have not yet researched it. Cine mode is great for the film look because it applies a color curve on all the footage making it so there is less shadow giving it a flatter look. The reason you want flatter footage is because it allows you to be in control of the colors and shadows in post, rather then having the shadowing baked into the footage and then having it irreversible. You will find that some people hate cine mode on the HV20 because of just that and say that the other modes are sharper. Cine mode is there to allow one to have more control and takes the "camcorder" feel away from the color/lighting.
I do think the twoneil is a very good choice if you want to go for the look. Its a good solid cheap product that will get what you want.
Dont forget that even if your not in the industry, even if your not into film, the opinion counts. Im not going to only show my films to professionals, you know what I mean. If my film cant impress an average joe that knows nothing, ill never make it. You, sounding like you have some experience as well as caring about film, are valuable to the whole process. I will let you know when the site is up. Thanks for your opinions!
Now, regarding Cine Mode, I do agree with the freedom it gives you on CC, but I still think you should give a chance to TV Mode. The results I've seen using a 1/60 shutter speed are among the best. Besides, you could set color depth, contrast, and even sharpness to - 1, which would give you results relatively similar to Cine Mode, while still maintaining the sharpness of a 1/60 shutter.
I know TV Mode is a pain in the ass when it comes to controlling gain, but from what I've seen, the result is well worth it.
To be honest I think the quality of the production is what got me - it was very professional feeling and so I judged it on that level, like I was watching a real film! Because it is a real film! Are you going to send it to festivals?
Thanks
awesome score and the filming is very cinematic.
Look forward to seeing more of your work!
Not only good and virtuose but full of sensitivity.
Technical problems are surpassed by the script and the emotion.
Sorry for my bad english.
SO encouraging and I hope to SEE THE BIG MOVIE later.
MAY GOD Bless you guys all the WAY !!!
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