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A tutorial using Final Cut Studio 2 on how to convert footage shot in 30p to perfect 24p... Used in the short Sofia's People
philipbloom.co.uk/films/35mm-films/sofias-people-canon-5d-mk2/

Thanks to Denver Riddle for his original workflow.

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Montauk Media 6 months ago

i am using the Slo-Mo lip-sync technique with an upcoming music video. So this could be applied in the same way with 720 24p/n HVX footage, by taking the original over cranked 36FPS footage with the singer singing singing at the song sped up (36 fps: the song lasts 0.840x as long as normal; played at 119.05% speed), and when it is converted to 24FPS the sync should match up with the original song. Right?

I am using the song lengths provided by Barry Green in this post on DVXuser

dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=891871&postcount=5

Very complicated question. sorry, but i figure you are a wiz at these kind of things!

Thanks phillip
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

i am sorry. am far from a wiz at these things...
Montauk Media 6 months ago

I just tried it and it did work! But that was 60i with my xh-a1, now just to try it with the HVX.

thanks for this video!
Chris Newman 5 months ago

You should NOT need to convert anything if you are using Barry Greens calculations with the HVX. I've used them before and it worked perfectly. vimeo.com/993677. After you film it overcranked to the artist singing faster then just sync up the footage and audio track and you should be good to go. I'd do some tests first on your own.
marzio 6 months ago

Thanks!
Stoner Ace 6 months ago

Is there any way we could compare the current 24p version, of the video used in your tutorial, with the old 30p one. I would love to see the difference...

Cheers!
Tracey Lee 6 months ago

Thanks for posting this Philip! Until I saw details of what was actually going on, I had not yet satisfactorily converted 30p to 24p. Hands on is great!
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

anytime Tracey
MishaTW-Fotomir 6 months ago

What about Windows? how can we to convert the fps?

thx Philip, i like u art's
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

sorry am a mac man!
Felipe Tavares 4 months ago

I was wondering about that too. I just bought me a Canon 5D Mark II, but I use a laptop with Windows operational system. What program could I use for editing video on Windows? And, concerning color correction, can I use Magic Bullet Looks on Windows?
cbrdoom 6 months ago

Hello,
this method is ok for transform the 30P to 25P ?

I'm interested by the DSLR but I'm also mix with my XH A1 (25P)...

;)
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

yep, just change to 25p in cinema tools
berkay ferah 6 months ago

why we didnt choose 24p? and always choose 23.98
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

24p is for film out. 23.98 is for NTSC
Garrett Wesley Gibbons 12 days ago

23.98 is what syncs with NTSC drop frame audio - it's like using 29.97 instead of 30p
Montauk Media 6 months ago

can you give me some insight phillip on my first comment..?
Joe Lloyd 6 months ago

Thanks Philip, this was very helpful.
Jeff Wood 6 months ago

Wow just in time, how did you know?
I just had a surprise when formatting my first pal dvd with 5d footage!!!!! Phil saves the day.
cbrdoom 6 months ago

Hi,
Cinema tools is just on mac ?
I edit on adobe premiere, on PC, arg... !!!!
30p to 25p is only for the mac user's ;)

what is the équivalent on PC ?

thank you very much and congratulation for your work.
Jackson Miller 5 months ago

There are alternatives for PC's but I don't think philip knows them nor do I. Read/search/post on DVXuser.com in the mark D2 section. They'll be able to tell you the best option for pc guys.
eladbari 5 months ago

i wonder if the "interpret footage" in After Effects-is enough to do, instead of this whole long process... :\
Scott Morrison 6 months ago

Philip, i just discovered youre videos and am completely addicted, great stuff, thank you very much for posting these video. I was just wondering if you had any compressor tutorials or what settings you use, im very new to compressor and cant even come close to the quality of your videos at even triple the file size.
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

i don't use Compressor for my videos, i will do a quicktime tutorial though!
Scott Morrison 6 months ago

That would be greatly appreciated, because to get a video of that quality and length for only 146mb is awesome and i would love to know how to do it. thanks a ton.
Wayne Avanson 6 months ago

So how do you feel about the 5d2 versus the Gh1 now that the 5D2 Firmware update has arrived Phil?

Would you still rather have the GH1 in your bag?

Just wondering.

Avey
Philip Bloom 6 months ago

I love both, but the 5d is far superior but much pricier. I will own both...but given a choice, one or other price no object. the 5dmk2 it is
kholi hicks 6 months ago

Does this method introduce ghosting? I tried it with some footage, and two other methods. The best and most accurate was AE's Pixel Blend. The others had stuttering or ghosting going on.
Igor Vignjevic 6 months ago

This thing you can do in GV Edius 4.6 or 5 much easier. Simply in clip properties click 24fps and with Alt+E change duration to original. All works in real time and looks beter than in Final Cut. I use it all the time.
Michael Fletcher 6 months ago

Hi PB. I wash just watching your tutorial and taking it all in but I have a technical issue. Can you please explain to me the difference between really fast and pretty damn quick. I'm a bit confused. :) :)

Sorry to be a shit stirrer but I've had a few wines and it sounded funny. Good tute by the way.

Mike
And Art Design 6 months ago

Thank you Philip! One question on your "native" codec. Why ProRes instead of XDCAM EX? Just curious. Thanks!!
Garrett Wesley Gibbons 12 days ago

ProRes is pretty standard.
Super Gab 6 months ago

Nice job... two questions:

1) Can this workflow be applied to 60i footage?
2) Where in this workflow would you do your Magic Bullet Looks color grading?
alek 5 months ago

Thank you Philip!
What is the Initial settings for 30p ?
30p secuence settings original apple 422 proRes 29.97 ???? or 30p change this setting ?

please Philips sorry for my English, I am form Spain!!!
D.C. Joseph 5 months ago

thanks, duder.
ariel26 5 months ago

ther is any good guid for final cut?
john markert 5 months ago

Why not just leave the piece at 30p?
Elan Feingold 5 months ago

Great tutorial, thanks Philip!
Florent Porta 5 months ago

Nice technic thanks !
Carmen O'Brien 5 months ago

Thank you. I am starting on my first video this week. I learned a lot.
Terence Beal 5 months ago

Thanks very much for the tips !
I was wondering if I'll get the Canon 5D Mark II because of the frame rate. Now I know it's not such a problem...
Until, maybe, someone create a firmware to record at a more convenient 25p/24p frame rate.
amiten panzera 4 months ago

cool thanks
Adrian Payne 4 months ago

Pro Res makes my 5D video darker...
Any Ideas?
nicolas2ct 4 months ago

hi philip,
just a little qustion ...
do you know a PL mount adapter for 5D markII ?
i am looking for one ... ;)
thanks
isaac Lane Koval 4 months ago

Thanks Philip! I just tried it on my 5D footage and it looks great.
charriau 1 month ago

Hi Philipp,

what do you think that the method with After Effects ?
it's easier is not it?
but the result is probably worse ... ?
Philip Bloom 12 days ago

sorry for late reply. have very little after effects experience.
Garrett Wesley Gibbons 12 days ago

This video is a little slow-paced. The same content could be covered in a paragraph of text....

Does anyone know if this produces significantly better results than nesting the 30p sequence in a 23.98 sequence within FCP? I am skeptical that this method is worth the conversion step in Compressor....
Philip Bloom 12 days ago

it is actually covered in about 4 paragraphs of text by Denver Riddle. I turned it into Video so people could follow.

Only way to find out Garrett is to try!
Garrett Wesley Gibbons 12 days ago

Haha. Touche. I'm sure that a lot of people appreciate your tutorial. I'll do the great 10-up 24p conversion test, comparing the results with pixel-peeping methods.... someday. Meanwhile, the 7D is quite nice.