This snippet-or the ideas it holds-is exactly what I just asked Ableton to help me find in my last communication to them. Having media available that demonstrates the way users think when they are interacting with a programme to me is gold, there is NO BETTER WAY to get to grips with a new piece of software, so thanks. Now I have the hours in front of me to do my own experimentation to find my own way. I will definitely get the whole package that you speak of from you. Ta Mark