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A first rough test with our new RED One camera, made in november 2008. Deliberate over- and underexposure. Build 17. Shot on mediocre Nikon zoom lenses.

Update Oct. 2009: See here the result of our first year with our camera: vimeo.com/7097391

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  • Martin, how do you like the Red camera?
    Any advice for someone who hopes to buy one soon?
    Hal Pope
    Columbus GA USA
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  • I love it - it gives you phantastic freedom in post as well. It is much more like a film camera, where you expose for a clean neg, and then you can give it a range of looks in post.
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  • Brendan Baldwin plus 2 years ago
    what type of media does the red camera record on? is it hard drive?
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  • Hello Martin, I shot this comercial on a RED one vimeo.com/9259984

    I had a lot o f noise in te low light... The colorist told me that it was under exposed, but what should I have done, keeped it brighter them I wanted ? Have you noticed a lot of noise in the low light ?

    Thanks
  • Basically when you shoot RED you don't expose for the finished product, but for grading, i.e. you try to get as much detail onto your digital negative as possible. I always try to expose as much as possible to the right, and then bring down the levels in grading again.

    RED also rolls off very nice the highlights; in the above example the reflection shot in the water with the sunlight has the sunlight at way above 100%, yet it doesn't look blown out like it would have on a video camera. In that respect you should alwyas judge the histogram with the intended look in mind.

    Out of curiosity, was your project processed with the new color science, especially the new Flut™? If not, you might want to re-grade it, just to learn how much more you can possibly push your footage.
    And you might know that RED is currently offering a sensor upgrade to all RED One owners. The new chip has amazing low light capabilities; black is just black, no objectable noise. Very nice, organic feel. ISO 800, and people have shot amazing available light footage at ISO 2000 and even ISO 3200.
    Hope this helps.
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  • This project was color corrected on Apple final cut studio`s color, It is already on TV so It wold be to much of a truble to re grade. I don`t acctualy own a RED One (even tough I want it badly) The RED We used on this comercial was rented, but on the next one I`ll look for one that has the new ship. I used the RED espce as reference for contrast, I dont like the aspect of the image wnen you push the blacks too much, because some times you loose detail on dark objects or in hair, but you can`t put faces or bodys back in the shadow if there was no shadow in the first place... And anyway, as I was using RED space as reference for my final contrastio ratio, I assumed that I wold have plenty of detail on the RAW footage, as I was filming at ISO 320, and day light sources. But the colorist said to me that as I had filmed using RED space as metadata, he couldn`t work on the raw material ( Can you tell me if that is true?, It was the only time I shot RED, i`m much more used to film)

    My best wishes,

    Rodrigo Prata,
    DoP

    Cachalote Fúria e Filmes
  • Hi Rodrigo,

    I'm not quite getting your point about pushing the blacks and losing shadow. You can always change the curve characteristics in post and get the darker greys closer to black.

    I'm far from a workflow/post specialist, but RAW has much more detail than RED space. The colorist needs to update himself as to how the workflow has changed. For both of you, reduser.net is a helpful place - it can be chaotic at times, but is full of useful information; and some very helpful people.

    Since more and more commercials are shot on RED (in Norway it pretty much took over from super16), if I was in your shoes I would try to learn as much as possible. I'm not talking about re-grading the whole commercial, just learning how powerful R3D files can be, and how much potential they have. See if you can get a copy of the R3D files (the RAW data file), and get access to an Intel Mac. Then you can download REDcine-X for free from RED reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=539913&postcount=11, load the R3D into it, and play a bit with the settings. Alternatively, if you can send me one R3D, I can have a look at it.

    Also, on your next project I would advise to use a post house that has a proven track record with R3D files.
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  • Ps: I`m curious, what other workflows there are for grading RED footage apart from Color?

    Pps: I apologize for my poor english, I haven`t spoken it in a long time
  • I know that Scratch is the top-of the line solution. On the mid-market there is Avid, Vegas (don't know how much grading that has) and After Effects (the upcoming version will be able to handle multiple 4k streams simultaneously.)

    I'm a cameraman and try to keep up with the post solutions. But of late (thankfully) many post-production software companies have jumped onto the RED train, and more are to follow. So I am sure there are more solutions than the above mentioned. R3D is on the brink of becoming one of the industry standards, that every editing and grading tool will be able to handle.
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  • Aaron Eger 1 year ago
    This was not uploaded in HD?
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