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18. Panasonic Lumix GH1: Test Clip
4 months ago
7. Alexa Nikon D90
6 months ago
for exact same footage shot with Canon 5D mark II, go here: vimeo.com/5623230
for tech info go here: mikekobal.com/blog/?p=201

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  • Lonny Quattlebaum plus 4 months ago
    Thanks for the comparison Mike. I'm pretty excited about both the 5D and GH1. I think they will open a lot of creative opportunities.

    I'm wondering if shooting at 1080 on the GH1 affects the light sensitivity. The GH1 will shoot at 1080p right?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    Lonny,I am pretty sure it does not effect light sensitivity. 720 is better quality, records in 60p and more gradable.
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  • Farrell Kramer 4 months ago
    Interesting. The Canon seems a little more film-like.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    yes, footage is straight out of the camera. I am sure with a little tweaking the results with the GH1 can be stunning.
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  • MidnightStar Video plus 4 months ago
    Thanks Mike very insightful!
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    no problem Midnightstar. still want your bike...
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  • Matt White 4 months ago
    Thanks Mike this is really helpful. Do you know the price difference between the two?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    you are welcome, Matt. Canon 5D2 with kit lens $3500, Lumix GH1 with kit lens $1500
  • Matt White 4 months ago
    Wow thats quite a difference, no wonder the 5d2 seems to have a better image.
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  • Kaushik 4 months ago
    Panasonic is more focused than Canon.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    yeah, it over sharpens, have to see if this can be changed.
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  • finally you got your GH1? ;-)
    I think if you change the lens on the GH1 the performance will be much better although it will be far better in most situations than the average camcorder... Keep sharing the results...
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  • The kit lens is unsuitable to this kind of lighting....try a 1.8 or 1.4...it really looks great...Keep sharing the results. Thank you
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    I know, I know. It is a very capable lens just not for selective focus. have my adapter on order :-)
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  • olaf h. ☞ nadu 4 months ago
    interesting, thanx for sharing it!
    cu =)
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    no prob olaf.
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  • SMS 4 months ago
    thanks for the video. seems to me 5D has more vivid color than GH! but I like the quality of the Panasonic and dislike 4/3 system!
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    yes, but nothing that cannot be fixed in post very easily.
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  • Ian-T 4 months ago
    Yeah a different lens will show much improvement in the Panasonic. But anyways these two cams looked like they can match up perfectly. Thanks.

    So this is 720p?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    yup, 720p. still have to try 1080p but word on the net has it 720p is better.
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  • Angela Meadows 4 months ago
    Thank you for the side by side comparison. I agree the Cannon is better. Although the price is a hugh factor.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    u r welcome, Angela. the price and size. both great cameras, just have to keep in mind the limitations.
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  • kedarvideo plus 4 months ago
    Great comparison, thanks a lot. It says a lot.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    u r welcome, kedarvideo.
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  • Lee Azzarello 4 months ago
    How's the retail availability of the GH1 in Manhattan? Adorama's web site still says it's out of stock.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    not sure, I got mine a couple days ago from bh. checked website, was in stock, reserved it and picked it up, couple hours later it was out of stock again.
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  • Renato Dibelčar 4 months ago
    Thank you for presentation! Quality of video and of colour me very suits. Colours look natural.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    y r welcome, Renato.
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  • Ken Ardito 4 months ago
    Quality looks great, especially for the price, but how is the jello effect, and does GH1 shoot 720 24p?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    will post my first project later today, yeah, really good. I did not test it for jello, what I have seen on the net does not look too bad. much better then D90. it shoots 720/60p and 1080/30p.
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  • juba 4 months ago
    what do you think about the nikon d90?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    D90? what I think of it can be seen here
    vimeo.com/4811665
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  • Pepster 4 months ago
    Mike thanks for doing that.

    I just loaded both of these clips in to a Beyonwiz DP-P2 PVR connected (via HDMI) to a Panasonic 50" PZ850 series Plasma, and viewed @ 2metres.

    Canon 5D2 - nothing to report, asbsolutely rock solid, no artifacts any where in the picture - looks like a DSLR still shot.

    Panasonic GH1... oh boy.. where do I start...
    GH1: 0:0 to 0:12 - very noticeable sharpening contours in the sky - this is the low light 'mud' effect every one is talking about. Lots, and I mean lots, of dancing block artifacts in the sky. It doesnt' look good at all.

    Lots of dancing blocks in the red areas of the Arizona can at both infinity and close focus

    It would seem you get what you pay for.
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  • Eugenia Loli-Queru plus 4 months ago
    Too bad you exported one clip in 1080p and the other one in 720p, both should have been same resolution/bitrate exported as, so we can download them. Maybe you can replace this one?
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  • Ron Coker plus 4 months ago
    Interesting Data. Thanks for this
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    u r welcome
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  • lonfils jean marc 4 months ago
    The defaults seen by Pepster are also easy vewable on a 17 '' usual computer screen (full screen).

    Jean-Marc Lonfils
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  • Bill plus 4 months ago
    This one looks muddy to me. The buildings have less defined edges. The depth of field in the second shot is nowhere near as deep as the canon. I will never understand how you can drink cold tea. It should be served with milk and sugar and it should be hot. Piping hot. With biscuits. (cookies)
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  • Andrew Reid plus 4 months ago
    Um...

    This isn't a fair comparison because you've dropped the bit rate of the GH1 to such a low level the image breaks up and you have also only shot at 720p whilst the 5D footage is shot at 1080p.

    Care to explain?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    true, bit rate is on low side, I was only interested in depth of field/bokeh comparison.
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  • Andrew Reid plus 4 months ago
    Ahh I see. It's just showing the GH1 in bad light but I guess people should know not to compare the two files on here, because they're at different bit rates, resolutions. What did you compress the GH1 footage to, what bit rate? The 5D does seem to have more DOF because it's got a bigger sensor but the GH1 can hold it's own in low light with a fast but cheap Canon FD lens... lens adaptability is very good. I have some Zeiss lenses for mine. (Rock on!! haha) These also have much shallower depth of field. Bokeh and DOF depend 90% on the lens.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    yes andrew, of course i know that. still I was interested in the depth of field / bokeh feel of the kit lens
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  • solardevice 4 months ago
    Thanks for the test! I'm about to buy a GH1... Seems promising...
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    cheers, solar
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  • THE BOOM SHAQ 4 months ago
    I really wanted to buy the GH1 but in this footage you can see tons of artifacts on the building areas. (I actually think it might just be because the footage was compressed). Artifacts are annoying for visual effects artists.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    the bit rate is pretty low on it, my interest was the out of focus area, with careful conversion it should look a lot better
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  • PappasArts 4 months ago
    Thanks for testing.

    Next time your should try the GH1 in 1080 mode. There is far more resolution in the 1080 extraction from the sensor.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    I hear it is not very good in 1080, just got it for the 60p
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  • rayzrsharp 4 months ago
    No disrespect but this is not a good example of what this camera can do. Anyone interested, try checking out what Philip Bloom does with it... vimeo.com/4405518
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    haha. i never claimed this is what the camera can do. just curious about the out of focus area with the kit lens.
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  • Pepster 4 months ago
    Yep - the GH1 would have to look a whole lot better before being considered seriously.

    I can see the compression contours in the clouds and flashing blocks on the darker areas on the lower LHS, from 0:0 to 0:12, when viewed on my 14" Toshiba laptop.

    It looks very bad when viewed on 50" Plasma @ 2m.

    No pixel peeping here.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    lol of course you guys are pixel peeping
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  • Bernard Pavard 4 months ago
    I plan to make short trailers about my friends artists (potery, sculptures, etc.) Between the GH1 and the D90 what would you recommand (I already have a D80 with Nikkor 50mmf1.4 and a 18x200). I was initially thinking about the panasonic HMC41E but your experience with the GH1 is really impressive.
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    hard to say. both cameras are good. it depends on the look you are after. keep in mind the smaller the sensor, the less control you will have over depth of field.
  • wesley clouden 4 months ago
    It's about the Len's and the hand's that it's in
    at times NO Bs's keep doing you thing
    NYC all day
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    dude, I just checked out your videos, totally awesome. a loooong time ago i shot the "as raw as ever" shabba ranks cover, Teddy Raily, Black Street, BelBivDevoe, etc etc...
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  • rayzrsharp 4 months ago
    Sorry, Mike completely mis-read this whole thing DUH! Great test. Yeah both cameras are sick. Wold love to have them both.
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  • dom bridges 4 months ago
    great comparison thankyou
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    u r welcome, dom.
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  • craig 4 months ago
    A few guys are crying and complaining in the forums that you did not encode the gh1 to its full capability. Is their anyway you could had made the gh1 look a little better in the low light ? Or is it just the canon 5d is just a beast in low light ? and in that area , the gh1 cant up because of its low bit rate?
  • Mike Kobal plus 4 months ago
    i know. the 5D is just better in low light. no way around it. by about 3 stops.
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  • Dan 3 months ago
    I like the muted colors coming out of the GH-1. Also the less depth of field actually. DOF is overrated. Watch how many movies actually go crazy with it...close to zero. No Country for Old Men comes to mind.

    The 5D seems to enance colors a bit. Actual film leans more toward the dull side which accounts for the color correction during telecine/post.
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