In this episode of The Exchange with Ed Stetzer, Micah Fries hosts a discussion with Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger about the importance of small groups in churches.

The Transformational Groups study is part of a larger 10-year initiative called Transformational Church, which is designed to help churches change their scorecard from "bodies, buildings and budget" to deeper emphases on accountability, discipleship and spiritual maturity. Learn more about being a Transformational Church at

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Ed is the president of LifeWay Research (, a Christian polling firm, a contributing editor for Christianity Today and OUTREACH magazines, an author of more than a dozen books, a church planter and pastor, and a visiting professor at evangelical colleges and universities. Ed is often quoted in The USA Today and other publications due to his education, experience and expertise.

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