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This is a sample of some training I'm producing for Sony Vegas. I am currently shopping the package around, so while I am happy to share this with you today, I may need to take it down, depending on the license I negotiate.

The basic idea here is to create training segments that have a much faster pace than you'd typically see with online training, more like a cooking show on TV, skipping lots of boring prep work and beginner-level tasks. This tutorial is a little more advanced, but I also worry that it is too difficult to follow: I'd be interested in what you Vegasites out there think!

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  • DURBAN plus 4 months ago
    It was a great tutorial, I am a beginner level, so that’s maybe why I thought it was a little fast, especially at the second half of the tutorial. It was hard to try to keep up with the speed of the movement (trying to follow your steps) and concentrating on all you had to say at the same time.

    Now this may also be because I am not native English speaker, contributing to the increase of my difficulty. Although I must stress out, that viewing the tutorial a second time, did make it much more comprehensible.

    I look forward to reading some other opinions, and definitely did like the tutorial.
  • Videopia plus 4 months ago
    Thanks, this is exactly the kind of info I need.

    And, yes, there's no way ANYONE could follow the second half, it's waaaaaay to fast (by design). But I'm experimenting with a new format, where most (all) tutorials on the net seem to go step-by-step-by-endless step, that only teaches you how to do that one tutorial. I can save time (for the viewer) by teaching one concept in detail and leaving it to viewer to pick up the other stuff in another tutorial.

    On the other hand, I HATE watching tutorials that leave out critical details.

    So the dilemma: This tutorial is about teaching Keyframe Envelopes, and it succeeds at that (right?), but it does NOT teach how to make the finished postcard example (because parts are way to fast). Is that too frustrating?

    Phrased anther way: This tutorial is 11 minutes long. If I leave the boring sections in, it'll be 20 minutes long. For me, it's the same amount of work, so I can do it either way, but as a viewer, would you just prefer to have the extra 10 minutes included?
  • DURBAN plus 4 months ago
    Yes, this tutorial was about keyframe envelopes, and you are right, it did a good job at that. Yes it was a little frustrating not teaching the final postcard example, but as long as there is another tutorial, explaining that part with detail, then I guess its fine... in a way that may even contribute to keeping your viewer interested and alert. In a nut shell, your original idea is well thought out.
    I guess keeping in the extra 10 minutes would make it too long and would not open the door to a sequel.
    Keep it up and thank you.
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  • AVCHD User 4 months ago
    Great stuff! I got lost at the point when you started adding curly frames, but overall I think pacing is good, I just need to watch it once again. The point of video versus live broadcast is that I can watch it again and again and again if I don't understand something. I totally support your idea of cutting boring stuff out, BUT: you must leave all important stuff in. Make it quick, but it should be there, so I could go one sentence forward, pause, analyze, go another sentence forward, pause, analyze. This would work for me as long as all key components are there, I don't mind to watch again if I did not get it from the first time.
  • Videopia plus 4 months ago
    I agree. And that reminds me of my ultimate plan (read: it'll never happen because I'll never get around to it), which is for THIS training segment to be accompanied by explicit, step-by-step documentation. Unfortunately, there is so little respect for technical writers and trainers in general that I can't even make a living doing it, but THAT would be how it should be done, in my opinion. Then the video merely serves as a summary of the proper, complete, comprehensive tutorial.

    Gosh. Now that I just wrote that, I know what needs to be done...
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  • deepinthewoods 3 months ago
    Wow, there was a lot in there, but I thought it was probably followable even if it meant watching the video and pausing it while trying to do it. Not sure how much of that I can do on Vegas Platinum 8, maybe I'll try. Only comment, about the 'here's one I made earlier' ending is that some viewers may get frustrated if they can't reproduce exactly what you've made.
  • Videopia plus 3 months ago
    This video is entirely doable in Vegas 8.

    And good comment on the end: I know it can be frustrating if you need to follow every single step. That's the hard part. I'm building a curriculum, and if I had to do every step on every tutorial, I'd only get 3 tutorials in an hour of training! What I want to do is teach the WHOLE app in 2 hours. We'll see...
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  • Peter B. plus 3 months ago
    I use FCP (and would need Motion for this type of animation), but even so I found the instruction helpful in ways. Speed is OK for me. Thanks!
  • Videopia plus 3 months ago
    Thanks Peter, I definitely hope FCP/Premiere folks would get this too. I know I watch lots of AE tutorials for inspiration.
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  • Dave Dugdale plus 3 months ago
    Great job, but Eric I am confused. I subscribed to your site's RSS feed but I never saw this video. Do I need to subscribe here too?
  • Videopia plus 3 months ago
    Well, there's some shenanigans going on here. The copyright on this video was, how shall we say it, a bit ambiguous. So while I am always working at home, the videos I create that no one buys end up here... fortunately for me (but unfortunately for Videopia and Vimeo), I've been selling the rights to most of my videos lately. Do they ever see the light of day? Most do. I'm also working on some non-exclusive syndication - that's what this is.
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  • Videopia plus 3 months ago
    ...oh, and I forgot to add, almost all of my videos (whether published by myself or by someone else) end up here:

    videopia.org/index.php/watch/training.html
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  • LRC 2 months ago
    I love this tutorial. It's my second time watching it and it won't be my last! in full screen it looks amazingly super great. it's like perfect quality! wow!
  • Videopia plus 2 months ago
    Thanks! I wish I could figure out how to get paid to do this, because THIS is what I'd love to do full time.
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  • Nabil Lam 2 months ago
    really enjoy your tutorial as well as your other informative videos. really clean and polish. can't help but noticed the great audio recording quality and the pace of the video is just right. favorited!! great job!!
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  • Brad Miller 2 months ago
    How can you do this same effect with a background image with a larger frame size? I've tried using the steps from this tutorial, however the photos/video get cut off once I zoom out past the extent of the postcard sized background image.

    Here's an example of what I'm trying to accomplish in Sony Vegas: revostock.com/After-Effects-Project/83793/Deluxe-Contact-Sheet.htm
  • Videopia plus 1 month ago
    Oh, hehe, sorry I haven't been checking back here - but I think we chatted about this in another forum, no?

    And our conclusion was: You can sort of do this with huge 4K images, but that's your limit and beyond that, there's nothing you can do. Also, Vegas becomes INCREDIBLY cranky with images/video that size and so... After Effects is the right way to do this.
  • Brad Miller 1 month ago
    Yes, you answered it. Thanks!
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  • Al Chan 2 months ago
    That was a great video! I'm a novice Vegas Pro 8 user and that made sense to me but I just need to follow your steps and try it out to really get to know the steps involved.

    Please keep me updated on the status of these tutorials. I'd be really interested in them once they are published! I've always enjoyed your teaching style.
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  • THANK YOU!
    I never knew Vegas could do that. You made my life easier, I was just about to migrate to premiere because I thought Vegas couldn't handle motion effects properly.
    Very well done, sir!
  • Videopia plus 1 month ago
    Thanks - I do want to point out that while Vegas kicks Premiere's butt in many many ways (I have Premiere and chose to use Vegas on a daily basis), the REAL way to do this project the right way is in After Effects. Granted AE sucks at editing and audio and etc. and costs another huge chunk of money, so Vegas has that going for it!
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  • John Green 1 month ago
    Thanks for sharing this! I was a TV photog for 10 years before going freelance, and Vegas Pro is my NLE of choice. I didn't have the money for the big Cahuna's of editing, but over the past year freelancing I have found that Vegas will do everything I can think of doing. I have done enough projects that following this "cooking show" tutorial was pretty easy, since I have done some limited green screen compositing and to do that you run into just about all the features you used. This video would be perfect for an intermediate to advanced Vegas user. A beginner would DEFINITELY need the 20 minute version. Great thing about Vimeo as opposed to YouTube is you can have that 20 minutes if you need it.

    What I think would be really really helpful for a Vegas Pro beginner would be a series of 1-2 minute building block videos illustrating how to use each discrete element. You need a video on what a keyframe is and how they work in Vegas, a video on motion tracking with various examples of how to use it, a video on the whole "parent-child" concept and how it can be layered to do compositing, a video on alpha channels and mattes, a video on the cool simple things you can do in Vegas like auto-crossfades, corner fade-in buttons, dropping transparency, etc., and a video on using the video effects at the clip and track level and why you would want to do one or the other. If you put these together in a "beginners start here" section, then you would have the building blocks for a bunch of cool projects with the confidence that even a beginner would be able to purchase the product and if they don't catch everything as you're explaining it, you can color code each of the building block videos and put a little "indicator" somewhere in the cooking video style window to let the viewer know which building block video they would need to consult in case they don't know how to do the step you are referencing.

    I love the way you do these educational videos. They are very clear and effective. I also buy a lot of Digital Juice stuff and rely on those tutorials as well. Hopefully these comments have been helpful; you're doing awesome work!
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