Wow... Just read the description and had my question answered. Welcome to the united club of idiots Mr. Reynolds. Thanks Mr. Bloom.

I attended that workshop in Dublin and persuaded the elderly gentleman to pose for Phil. Afterwards Phil said to me - Do you know who that man was? It was Richard Harris.
'Really?' I said. Duh!

Its 12 minutes per *clip*, not per card - you can use larger cards, and/or swap. There are certainly times when you want to shoot continuously for longer periods, but they're probably not the jobs that play to the strengths of this camera.

I see, thanks for the clarification.

I was standing right next to you when Philip shot this. It's your eye - you are entitled to have one frame - but one frame only!

Now I am worried I took the wrong one ;-)

We should compare shots at the same ISO and f/stop and see if they looks the same. Cause at 200, I think ours is pretty much flawless.

Are you using the 24-105? It's possible I'm just not using the camera correctly, but on the whole I find a lot of my shots to have lots of noise that don't have lots of light on them. Not sure if it's "normal" noise, or if my camera is producing more than it should.

7D=35mm motion picture frame size(with 1.6x crop), compatible with more cinema style lenses; 5D=VistaVision/full frame, 35mm still frame size(better for stills or for the unique look).

7D also currently is the only one with the multiple frame rates and a higher bitrate. For most video/film shooting purposes the 7D is an indie filmmaker's dream (and for $1,000 less).

I pretty much like the looks on the 5D more then on the 7D. Though the 7D seems like a wonderful video DSLR with multiple frame rate and higher bit rate but the images produce on the 5D looks differently appealing.

So far Jason Magbanua "Perya" is the only piece of video that makes me believe the 7D is a good investment just shooting on Raw without color process. Then again he had variety of lenses for Perya.

Then again the 5DMark2 unique look does makes me feel like I am seeing pictures on magazines in motion.

Thanks anyway for the comment Akira.

True bob that this is 'just' darn good observational photography. But bearing in mind this quality was impossible from a DSLR at this price point until very recently - I think the technical obsession is justified.

Best

Quite correct Michael...I would not be able to make an equipment decision without informed public, rather than promotional, opinion.

I have ordered the 7D.

I now enter the labyrinthine world of interchangeable optical glass!

What Philip and Den were attempting to teach us in the Dublin drizzle was to be better observers. What we saw in the rushes when we got back to base was that the tech we used to shoot with was less important than what you shot. I like gizmos as much as the next man (quite a lot more to be honest) but that is what I will take away from the day.

I look forward to seeing what you make with the 7D Bob

send me one and i will test it!