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25. Pre-Production EOS 7D Clips (Tele lenses)
5 months ago
Not much edited clips from a pre-production Canon EOS 7D with the following lenses:

- Canon 100mm IS Macro (new lens)
- Canon 70-200mm f/4 IS zoom (we use this lens a lot for stills)

- Only some brightness corrections in FCP
- Shot in 1080p 24p and down sampled to 720p 24p
- Parts in overcast and some in sun (no color corrections)
- Stock music from Final Cut Studio

Our 7D Review Diary can be found here:

outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_01/section_gear_cameras_2009/20090912_Canon_7D/index.html

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  • Jimmy Odoms 5 months ago
    I seriously cannot wait to get this camera. I found out today that Best Buy will have their official warehouse shipment by Oct. 11, so I'm excited about that. Great composition though.
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  • Jay M Raiveeson 5 months ago
    me tooooo. waiting for 7D
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  • Drew Maw 5 months ago
    The clarity is insane, good job man.
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  • Viktor 5 months ago
    well... Now what do I replace my SD9?
    GH1 or D7 ? ...GH1 i thing
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    Sure, the full-frame EF lenses will work fine in telephoto, but the 1.6x cropping factor is no small laughing matter. I would love to see EOS 7D footage shot with an ultra-wide angle 10mm or 11mm EF-S lens specifically configured for this APS-C size sensor found in the 7D, however. That would weed out the men from the boys, so to speak. ;-))

    Loved your "Outback Photo Handbook," Uwe! Too bad you had to send back to the loaner camera to Canon in Germany, I suppose?
  • Uwe Steinmueller plus 5 months ago
    >Too bad you had to send back to the loaner camera to Canon in Germany, I suppose?

    I live in California.
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    All CMOS sensor + rolling shutter Cine-DSLRs and video camcorders are notoriously famous for their wonderful crisp images -- as long as neither the camera moves at any faster than slow rate of speed, nor is there any faster then normal speed action taking place by the subjects. God forbid something like a chase or a fight scene.

    In those cases, the rolling shutter will go into overdrive and become rather nasty. Can't really help it, either.

    Now, as long as we are talking about a slide show of stationary landscape scenes, the EOS 7D -- and in fact all other CMOS + rolling shutter camera -- will perform rather magnificently.

    However, it would probably not be my first choice to shoot a fast-paced action thriller jam-packed with chases and fight sequences, you know what I mean? ;-)
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    All CMOS sensor + rolling shutter Cine-DSLRs and video camcorders are notoriously famous for their wonderful crisp images -- as long as neither the camera moves at any faster than normal rate of speed, nor is there any faster then normal speed action taking place by the subjects front of the lens.

    God forbid something like a chase or a fight scene!! In those cases, the rolling shutter will go into overdrive and become rather nasty. Can't really help it, either.

    Now, as long as we are talking about a slide show of stationary landscape scenes, the EOS 7D -- and in fact all other CMOS + rolling shutter DLRS and video camera out there -- will perform rather magnificently.

    However, it would probably not be my first choice to shoot a fast-paced action thriller jam-packed with chases and fight sequences, you know what I mean? ;-)
  • Uwe Steinmueller plus 5 months ago
    >not be my first choice to shoot a fast-paced action thriller jam-packed with chases and fight sequences, you know what I mean? ;-)

    Glad this is not my goal. I work mainly to document places that I photograph.
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    Right you are, Uwe. It breaks one's heart that the CMOS + rolling shutter cameras have so many nasty induced artifats, "thanks" to the rolling shutter (as opposed to the far superior global shutter found in CCD video cameras and film cameras).

    Recenly we tested the Panasonic HPX300 (CMOS) and three Panny CCD cameras -- the 2700, 3000, and 3700. Fast running scenes, a fast bicycle speed scene, and a one-on-one fight scene. The HPX300 footage fell apart. The CCD sensor footage was a delight to watch.
    The good new is, when you do a shooting scriipt breakdown and a storyboard, you can easily classify and categorize each and every shot into two groups: those shots that CAN BE shot with a CMOS sensor camera. And those that cannot.

    That way, you can do anywhere from 20-30% to 90-100% of your movie with a CMOS sensor DSLR or video camera, and save a small fortunte in the process. For the more demanding scenes (like ACTION!!!!), you will need to resort to a CCD video camera or to a film camera, I'm rather afraid. Not you personally, of course.

    Not too bad, one can still save viel Geld going the CMOS route, plus these DSLR sensors are so huge, the experience is nothing short of mind-boggling, as your wonderful footage here amply demonstrates.
  • Andrew Thomas 5 months ago
    "Right you are, Uwe. It breaks one's heart that the CMOS + rolling shutter cameras have so many nasty induced artifats, "thanks" to the rolling shutter (as opposed to the far superior global shutter found in CCD video cameras and film cameras)."

    Film cameras use a "rolling shutter" as well. The entire frame on a negative is not being completely exposed at all times because of the rotating shutter on a film camera. I actually think the global shutter of the CCD camera lends itself to the sterile look of CCD cameras, but that is just my opinion. Good job not knowing what the hell you're talking about.
  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    Andrew, you are perhaps partially right with the whole convoluted shutter issue. CMOS + electronic rolling shutters operate by exposing each and every pixel inividually, at slightly different times, pixel after pixel left to right, row after row top to bottom. Let's say you have an 18MP sensor, that means that each of the 18,000 pixels get "exposed" at slightly different times, separated perhaps by fractional nanoseconds.

    Film cameras, on the other hand, do not have "sensors" (other than the video tap's sensor), nor do they use pixels, nor do they expose the image left-to-right, nor do they expose the image row-by-row, like CMOS'style rolling shutters do.

    Also, whereas in the CMOS digital cameras, what we have is a so-called "electronic shutter," MP film cameras still use what we call "mechanical shutters."

    So, to sum it up, Andrew.... the shutter in a Canon 7D is NOT quite like the shutter in an Aaton Penelope, or in fact in any other motion picture camera using celluloid film.

    Global shutters and sterility -- now that's a concept I had never, ever heard of. Did you just make it up yourself, perhaps?

    Let us see now... I am pretty sure that nobody want so acquire anything at any price with a sterile-looking camera. So that elminiated the Panasonic Varicams, P2s, and all other 3CCD camcorders as well. Correct?

    So, that would leave either the CMOS + rolling sensor digital cameras and the equally rolling shutter film cameras as alternatives. Which is your preference from those two kind -- or are there some other capture technologies that I might not have heard of, Andy?

    BTW, I am not too clear on this: since you had just told us that both CMOS digital and film cameras employ "rolling shutters," do you suppose that film acquisition is also prone to jello, skew, wobble, bent verticals, flash banding, etc, etc artifacts, just like CMOS sensor video cams and HD-SLRs do?

    Quick, quick, someone better give the low-down to the American Society of Cinematogrpahers on this. They better revise their ASC Manual accordingly!
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  • Congratulations, Uwe. Beautiful shots and compositions. Wonderful day-light
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  • Eisen Feuer 5 months ago
    Excellent video, the first clip it VERY grainy though.
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    Great slideshow, now can we please introduce some actual MOTION to these almos still pictures? ;-)
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  • Hobo plus 5 months ago
    Can I ask what the audio is from?
  • Uwe Steinmueller plus 5 months ago
    Final Cut sound material.
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  • sloz 5 months ago
    iso?
  • Uwe Steinmueller plus 5 months ago
    ISO 100 I think
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    ISO 100? Uwe, I just watched your other video here on Vimeo, in which someone states on the audio track that something to the effect that "using the 100 ISO sensitivity setting in modern DSLR cameras like the 7D is not necessary."

    vimeo.com/6551914

    What's up with the 100 setting, then? Also, are the ISO and ASA numbers the same or different?
  • Uwe Steinmueller plus 5 months ago
    >using the 100 ISO sensitivity setting in modern DSLR cameras like the 7D is not necessary

    This was comment on stills. The other video is part of a review of the 7D as still and video camera.

    I think ASA and ISO are the same.
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  • bunkofurko 5 months ago
    Thanx, Uwe!!

    I grew up on the DIN standard (Deutsche Industrial Norm), maybe you are familiar with it? The USSR used the GOS standard back then, which was basically the same as the DIN standard.

    I used ORWO and AGFA and SOCHICOLOR MP film, and the sesnsitivity was always given on the box in DIN and also in ASA/ISO. I rememver using the 27 DIN = 400 ASA film stock in the very early 1970s.

    I would be very concerned to set an ISO rating much higher than 500 ASA in any digi camera, maybe only in an emergency, like in case of a light failure.
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  • Brian Wiley 4 months ago
    I cant believe at some point... I owned a 3600 dollar Sony V1U.
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  • bunkofurko 4 months ago
    Hey, Brian, at least that was a real camcorder, right? You know... expressly made for moving image acquisition.
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