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10. "Vienna is not Beijing" - 4 to 7 A.M short
3 months ago
The Beijing Dan Chung is showing us is always very beautiful…Vienna is more relaxed.
My aim was to test camera sensitivity, a bit motion and the new lenses I just got. I was not aiming for “high end compositions”…
Camera first impression:
Like others wrote before, camera felt great in hands.
Image quality can not be compared with my previous VDSLR (Nikon D90, Panasonic GH1). The Canon is in a different class. No more scrolling waves or vertical lines.
Light sensitivity is great! what a bargain for the money.
Lenses used:
Following the thread “just good enough” I have contacted “Samyang Europe” and asked them to test two of their lenses, the 8mm fish eye f3.5 and the 85mm f1.4.
Samyang responded fast (great customer service) and the all video (but the time laps sequence) was shot with those two lenses.
Please judge for yourself. If you are looking for a modestly priced prime lenses, you can’t go wrong. The 85mm is very fast, affordable and does not breathe when changing focus.
More info and review of the lenses you can find here:
8mm 3.5 review:
lenstip.com/160.1-Lens_review-Samyang_8_mm_f_3.5_Aspherical_IF_MC_Fish-eye-Introduction.html
85mm 1.4 review:
lenstip.com/166.1-Lens_review-Samyang_85_mm_f_1.4_Aspherical_IF_-Introduction.html
All footage in this clip converted to Cineform AVI. No CC or additional treatment was done.
Camera settings:
1080 25p ISO 800 (but the second shot made with the fish eye, ISO 1600)
Early morning shot are a bit misleading, believe me it was much darker outside :)
Picture style-standard
Time laps lens: Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS USM
Music: AKM akmmusic.co.uk/
My aim was to test camera sensitivity, a bit motion and the new lenses I just got. I was not aiming for “high end compositions”…
Camera first impression:
Like others wrote before, camera felt great in hands.
Image quality can not be compared with my previous VDSLR (Nikon D90, Panasonic GH1). The Canon is in a different class. No more scrolling waves or vertical lines.
Light sensitivity is great! what a bargain for the money.
Lenses used:
Following the thread “just good enough” I have contacted “Samyang Europe” and asked them to test two of their lenses, the 8mm fish eye f3.5 and the 85mm f1.4.
Samyang responded fast (great customer service) and the all video (but the time laps sequence) was shot with those two lenses.
Please judge for yourself. If you are looking for a modestly priced prime lenses, you can’t go wrong. The 85mm is very fast, affordable and does not breathe when changing focus.
More info and review of the lenses you can find here:
8mm 3.5 review:
lenstip.com/160.1-Lens_review-Samyang_8_mm_f_3.5_Aspherical_IF_MC_Fish-eye-Introduction.html
85mm 1.4 review:
lenstip.com/166.1-Lens_review-Samyang_85_mm_f_1.4_Aspherical_IF_-Introduction.html
All footage in this clip converted to Cineform AVI. No CC or additional treatment was done.
Camera settings:
1080 25p ISO 800 (but the second shot made with the fish eye, ISO 1600)
Early morning shot are a bit misleading, believe me it was much darker outside :)
Picture style-standard
Time laps lens: Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS USM
Music: AKM akmmusic.co.uk/
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Thanks.
J.
u did really steady shots in tram, that's why i was askin'. anyway, samyang lenses looks great. i have 16mm zenitar now, but this 8mm make a diffrence :)
What street lighting is used in Vienna. Is it sodium? If so, you got the white balance spot on. A rare thing in night shots.....
The image of the couple on the bench raised memories within me.
Great job
Yes, normal sodium lights here in Vienna.
The color temperature can be dialed to your liking.
2500k gave me the color I wanted.
Thanks again!
Johnnie
Beautiful work, my friend keep it up!
Now I am more sure than ever that I will treat myself to one of these cameras sooner than later.
Thanks for your kind worm words my friend!
Phil Bloom is a torch for all of us.
I am glad you downloaded the video file and watched it on a big screen. It makes it easier to understand the revolution we are facing lately.
Samyang with the 85, 8, and soon to come 14mm lenses are a sure bet for the price!
See you soon.
J.
Can you tell me your opinion between this 7d and the gh1?what about the ois and handheld shot?wobble effect?
I returned my GH1 as soon as I saw the vertical lines in low light. The GH1 is not from Panasonic pro line yet the lines were unacceptable for me. (Panasonic Austria gave an excellent customer service but came short to help with the problem).
The 7d is in a different league.
The wobble effect is still there if you shake the camera, but no one is shooting that way. The Samyang lenses has no ois. The Canon 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM has ois which is good.
Thanks!
Johnnie
Johnnie
I have been looking at the Samyang lenses and the 8mm is a great price, but I wanted something less fisheye.
With a 14mm and the crop factor we'd be looking at a nice 22mm equivilant for the 7d!
How did you get to test them?? Did you just ask?
Did they ask for a deposit?
It is all about letting other people who don't have the camera yet or looking for a budget nice prime lenses to look at some footage taken in low light. No more and more less.
Thanks.
J.
A pro is one who makes money from his filming work and that's what I do for life
"Pro type" work with the 7d coming soon
You have a very good eye. And 7D (and the good lenses) helped you to get these wonderful shots.
I'm wondering if you went back to 30frames on vimeo
This video was shot in 25p but Cineform is supporting 24p
Uwe from Germany.
25p all the way. The 7d is a very nice camera.
Thanks.
Johnnie
I´m a little worried about the "jello-effect" (Video sieht aus wie Wackelpudding bei schnellen Bewegungen) and the "aliasing" (Treppeneffekt an Kanten).
Is the 7D "good enough" to use instead of a Canon XH A1 HDV camcorder?
Thanks! Hope you are having fun with your 7D! :-)
Yes I live in Vienna. (but I am not Austrian)...
Regarding your question:
1-It depends what you about to shoot
2-You must know the camera limitations
3-You have to know and be comfortable operating it.
As a pro user I have access to lots of the most advanced cameras in the market yet I found my self using VDSLR more and more.
It is always "the right tool for the job" but I love those kind of challenges.
When in Vienna, if you need help or support please don't hesitate contacting me.
Thanks.
Johnnie
THANK YOU!
Thank you very much, you really captured the morning. Maybe next you should do an evening shoot and see how people look different.
Thx for sharing, mate.
Johnnie
The music is from AKM royalty free music. akmmusic.co.uk/
The theme is called: tender moments
Thanks.
Johnnie
J.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean by PM?
Thanks.
Johnnie
Best regards
Ronaldo
All the best.
Johnnie
more please...
Bin neugierig, mehr zu sehen.
lg, Gunther
The GH1 is a nice little camera but not on the same level of picture quality like the new Canon 7d.
My camera (like others reported) was heavily suffering from vertical lines on flat surface color objects.
Panasonic pro customer service was outstanding but came short solving the problem.
If you have the chance, grab the new Canon. You are shooting beautifully and I am sure you will enjoy the camera a lot. All the best, and don't hesitate contacting me when in Vienna.
Johnnie
Thanks for leaving a comment.
also the timelapse @ 2:23 how long did you film for / what method did you use to shrink it?
keep up the nice work
The timelapse....
Honestly speaking I can not remember exactly for how long I left the camera running, but it was not that much.
In Premiere I just changed the speed to few 100's% and it worked nice.
New video soon....
Johnnie
Keep up the great job you are doing.
All the best.
Johnnie
Especially like the part on the train, as it winds through the steet.
BTW, what's that music you used in the video? Find myself humming it and not wanting to stop!
Music is taken from: akmmusic.co.uk/
The theme is called: tender moments
P.S- if you do hop on a plane and find yourself here let me know before. Dinner is on me.
J.
I have access to most high end cameras in the market.
I love the challenge and finding the workarounds, but this is me....
I hope in the near future "magic Lantern" from T. Hudson will be available magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki) That will make "documentary life" much easier or do be exact possible.
Thanks!
Johnnie
Will happily pay with beer and dinner if you ever come to visit!
Thanks.
Johnnie
how can i buy samyang lens in U.S.?
I was told Samyang lenses are branded as "Vivitar" in the U.S.
Samyang Europe will ship world wide. you can purchase their lenses here: samyang.pl
Kudos to you!
I love the openness of the shots. Not crazy DoF out-of focusness. I've never seen the 7D look so mainstream cinematic.
All the best.
Johnnie
Re. the GH1, whereas it only records in a consumer-class bitrate, at least you can use with it any PL mount 16mm or 35mm cinema lens with an inexpensive adapter. Also, it does not have a reflex mirror, which is obviously not need for shooting video.
H.264, KB/s, etc..
Hope you got a 7d for a good price :)
But anyway, this short is still my favorite for the 7D. Love the music and mood. Speaking of buying one, I just ordered mine an hour ago.
Happy shooting, and greetings from Las Vegas!
Please post some footage.
Hope to be in Vegas (again) in April for NAB
The shot from inside the tram at 3:26 is just amazing! I love the difference in white balance from the inside and outside, it gives the feeling of 'morning'.
Thanks for commenting.
All the best.
Johnnie
I had the GH1. gave it back to the shop after having severe vertical lines in low light situations and got the 7d instead.
Never looked back since then...
All the best and thanks for watching the video.
Johnnie
Thaks for an answer.
All the best,
Ralf
I am cutting at home with Adobe Premiere and Cineform. This video was not CC.
I am just back from a project shooting mostly (very) fast moving objects and sure if you look at the background you will notice the Jello effect, but thanks god the eye is attracted to see the main action so a "normal" viewer will never notice that...Will upload the edited version in the next 2 weeks so you can judge for yourself.
All the best.
J.
and the melody is not bad too...how i wish Brunei is like this at night. Hope to come to Vienna someday.
In a click of a button I can delete this message but will leave it as an ignorant/stupid sample remark.
If you have anything to contribute you are welcome other wise get a life and leave us a lone.
Thanks.
Johnnie