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THEME: This is a documentary about the philosophy of karma. I am into eastern philosophy which I find to have a lot of truth in it. I wanted to make a film that conveys the idea that we are all basically the same. And I also wanted to make an informative film about what karma really is in case people are interested.

FORM: I wanted to experiment with fusing the documentary genre with the music video genre. I also wanted to make a film that in form reflected indian society in all its colour, chaos and diversity. Indian traditional ideas and beliefs, indian classical music remixed and edited trough western eyes to hopefully suit a western audience.

Erling Hoveid: director, producer, music, photography, co-editor
Geir O. Ramsvik: photography, editor, visual effects
Kristian E. Sjølie: graphic design
Jan Magnus Nymo: sound design, surround and stereo mix

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  • Blake Whitman staff 2 years ago
    Really great piece and loved the animation.

    Samsara next?
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  • dannyjelinek plus 2 years ago
    This was beautiful.
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  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thanks! :)

    I am thinking of doing a film about different states of mind, so I guess samsara will be a big part of it.
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  • It reminds me of a wonderful film entitled One Giant Leap, produced by some of the band members of Faithless. On the whole I enjoyed it, but I found some of the imagery and associated language disturbing. I believe in contagion, like does produce like, but to show imagery of needless material items such as jewelry set against slums does not, in my view, do the theory of Karma justice.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Yes, One Giant Leap was indeed an inspiration years ago. The idea with the jewelry was just to have some images symbolizing material wealth as a contrast to poverty. Some people are rich, some are poor.
  • Carlos Valdivieso 1 year ago
    I fully agree with "I heart tea" I loved your piece but I found needless to use homeless or poor people. It can only reinforce the idea of material wealth related with spiritual wealth.
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    Good point! But I felt I had to have some contrasting images of people in different situations and that was the best I came up with. Actually filming at the dump was the moment I enjoyed most on that particular trip to India.
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  • Sveinung Gjessing plus 2 years ago
    Var ikke så dumt dette! Ut på nettet er the shit!
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  • Gerald Penilla 2 years ago
    Thank you !
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  • Vinroc 2 years ago
    Thank you.
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  • Kevin Burns 2 years ago
    Thanks for that, I get the impression that a lot of people think that Karma is something mystical, something that you have to believe in or have faith in. Karma translated into western colloquial is consequence. Consequence of action, consequence of thought. Consequence of thought will lead you to green pastures or to your enemies.
    Thankyou
  • Paramjit Atwal 7 months ago
    Actually, Karma is somewhat a mystical thing. Consequence of action is not the western equivalent. The main reason is the thought of rebirth to correct your karma or set it right. If you don't believe in rebirth how are you supposed to right a life that you may have spent in wrong? And the consequence of action is more of a right now kind of thing. You hit someone, they hit you back. You help someone, they say thank you. I get what you are getting it but again, rebirth brings the mystical aspect of karma in.
  • Kevin Burns 7 months ago
    Life is mystical, and taking care of right now, will take care of your tomorrows, your past has lead you to where you are now. The thought of a beneficial rebirth is dwelling on the future which will lead you away from the present now, which will have consequence on your future now's.
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  • Stefan Melichar 2 years ago
    Nice, what did you shoot this on?
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Panasonic HPX170 and the timelapses are done with a Canon EOS 400D.
  • Carlos Valdivieso 1 year ago
    now that you mentioned, would you say that Canon would be a better equipment to do timelapses?
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    Well it´s smaller and easier to carry around and has better resolution so in my opinion yes.
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  • Austin Ho 2 years ago
    Great documentary! I loved the tilt shift scenes.
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  • Allison F 2 years ago
    I liked this a lot. However, I was very sad to hear the one man say that karma explains why some people are very poor and do not have enough to eat.
    Some of the kindest, best people I have met are those who face the harsh realities of living in the slums and not knowing where their next meal is coming from. I believe that poverty is not a crime. A poor person is not a worse person than a rich one.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Actually this man was very kind and someone I would say lived the teachings. I think what he sais is that if you believe in karma, that all actions have consequences, then the situation you are in is a result of past actions. He does not really blame people who are poor.
  • April Renee Bailey plus 6 months ago
    Just ran across this video when mousing around on vimeo.

    Where I live, I have seen many poor people, even children begging in the streets. I often think about the unfairness of this and how it has come to be like this here.

    What I got from this video is that if you believe in karma the poverty and hardship that some people are living out now was inherited karma from either their own past or from a past life.
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  • Yes. Allison F, you are right.

    Typical Indian Auditor. I'm sorry for those poor fellows starred in this doc. They don't live with what they tell.
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  • Sam Potts 2 years ago
    What kind of tilt shift lens did you use for those shots?
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Just a normal lens. The tilt shift effect was added in after effects.
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  • Paul 2 years ago
    Good job. Good karma. You can take that to the bank.
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  • Andreas Lohmann 2 years ago
    Like your movie a lot. The concept sounds so simple yet living it can be very difficult and painful at times. The protagonists in the film seem to be so calm and accepting - very appealing and something to aspire to.
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  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thanks for all the positive feedback! It really means a lot :)
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  • Pamela Welde 2 years ago
    I really enjoyed your video. It straightens out a lot of things I have heard about Karma over the years. Your video made a lot of sense to me. I Thank You!
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  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    If you like this film, you might also like my other film: Hinsides Tanker Eksisterer Ingenting (english subtitles)

    It is in norwegian, but it has english subtitles. Same kind of ideas, but more of an artfilm.
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  • Jandira Feijó 2 years ago
    Congratulations from Porto Alegre,Brasil
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  • Eric Demibee 2 years ago
    Thanks for this film. I especially enjoyed your playful treatment of the street and fairground shots.
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  • epileptic teen 2 years ago
    I am really in to Indian culture. This documentary was enlightening.
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  • Renier Mouthaan plus 2 years ago
    Very well done! I liked the way the music video approach worked out, refreshing.

    It's a shame however that the whole caste system and the poverty of the lowest caste is justificated by this belief in karma as far as I understand it.
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  • Brad Kremer 2 years ago
    Great film with a fresh feel to it. Well done!
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  • I loved this film so much I had to sign up just so I could let Erling know. Eastern Philosophy is great and I love to see people diving in to learn more about it. Thanks so much, looking forward to seeing more of your work.
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  • Jamie Wilson 2 years ago
    great footage and a great message
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  • Rafal Janicki 2 years ago
    this is great !
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  • Eduardo Merille 2 years ago
    Enjoyed it thanks.
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  • Joao Monteiro plus 2 years ago
    Such a great documentary, very well explained the meaning of karma. I was wondering if the miniature effect is done with a tilt shift lens or is it done in adobe after effects. cheers and congratulations.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    It´s done in after effects. I think I tried the lens baby before going to india, but it did not look that good. In after effects you get a lot more control over the effect :)
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  • DaVincicode plus 2 years ago
    Congrats to you Erling Hoveid on making this film. The editing was great and the audio was great. Thanks for bringing the subject of Karma into play. But you never mentioned the word "Dharma" either that means one's righteous duty or any virtuous path in the common sense of the term. (Wikipedia definition). Best to you and keep on making movies.
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  • Shawn Landersz plus 2 years ago
    this is some pro documentry you got going here.
    Bravo!
    and thank you!
    "... we are essentialy spiritual beings on a human trip"
    that gave me goosebumps, just beautiful. definately will use that quote in the future (if you dont mind)
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  • Gavin Owens plus 2 years ago
    Nicely done and it has a great fresh style but I don't know.....
    It seems to me that the very worst of people get the very best of life. Maybe we humans have gone too far to implement a rule of life like Karma. Remove the clutter of banks, markets, politics and religion from the culture and then we might have a chance to define what good and bad is in the first place. After that, lets see.
    I love it when a doc gets me thinking.
    G
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  • magneticblue 2 years ago
    Regarding action and reaction in the ping pong scene, the first racket hit may be acceptable as first action in the ping pong concept but... I can't see any distinct beginning or end in the reality. Day goes, night comes, where is the exact border in between them? Is there any real separation in between this second and the previous one? Simply no human being knows about the real thing we live in. It's all about beliefs. I agree, we're all connected. This makes sense. On the other hand we all live in darkness, may be that's why they call some people GU-RU: darkness remover.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Yes, it is a lot of beliefs and we live in ignorance most of the time. However it is not all darkness and insight and real understanding seems possible. I have at least met some really interesting gurus that to me seems genuine.
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  • Jackson Jackson 2 years ago
    Clear and concise statement about the nature of karma. Visuals and images enhanced the underlying message.
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  • magneticblue 2 years ago
    Bank analogy is fine. Even we get it right, big question is what is good and bad? According to whom? Is it acting on all notions deemed good for me or for you? Is it cover everything or just humans? I feel hungry and go eat some meat, vegetable, this is all good for me but bad for animals or plants in terms of keep being alive.

    I come to conclusion that Karma and many other interrelated concepts are invented by smart people to keep public in a multidimensional order. Let's remember untouchables (outcasts) set a massive stage of fear to become one of them if one goes "bad" (again according to whom) ways. It's a heretic killer.

    Don't you think so?
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    I am no expert, but I think a sense of good and bad is worked into our mind somehow. Doing harm to others I would say is bad and usually leaves one with a bad conscience. There are of course many views, but the one I lean to is that all leaving beeings are basically the same spirit or mind. Don´t know about plants though, but hey, we got to eat something :)

    I personally believe that there are some mechanisms going on in our mind like cause and effect that determine the outcome of our lives. What people in power use these kind of ideas for is of course another story.
  • I agree... and as for the food aspect, only the strictest believers of karma would not eat certain types of plants, those where the root is eaten so therefore the plant is killed. One has to remember, that plants have life cycles, they die whether parts of them are used for food or not.
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  • Lex Luthor 2 years ago
    Thank you for a lovely presentation of a beautiful culture/belief.

    I really loved the Canon's depth of field in the time lapse shots, it almost makes it look like a miniature. will you be making more in India or was this a one time thing?
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thank you! I wanted the miniature effect to get a sense of watching the world from above since it is a film about philosophy.

    I want to go to India again for sure, but don´t know when or what kind of project yet.
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  • Oz Smith plus 2 years ago
    Really, really great and totally inspiring from a philosophical point of view and from a film making one. India is such an amazing / assault on the senses / beautiful / shocking / wonderful / spiritual place.

    I love the tilt shift After FX stuff, was this done with lens blur and a feathered mask if you don't mind me asking? Ive tried it before but never with such great effect as you have got..
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thanks a lot!

    Geir who did the tilt shift effect used a tutorial found on the web and just followed it. Don´t know which one though, but it should not be too difficult. :)
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  • Duck Duck Poodle plus 2 years ago
    Very nice work. Great shooting.
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  • Karol 2 years ago
    ...fine. But I think - Karma ist only amusing story from our mind. Bad and good - where is it? In our mind.
    All is a live. Just in that moment.
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  • Gilles Misrahi 2 years ago
    Thank you for the explaination, the people, the way of doing it. Certainly good Karma to you ;-)
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  • Amila Galappatthi 2 years ago
    Very informative yet poetic! Buddhism teaches the same thing with a different methodical approach. Wish you all the best!
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  • Chris Light plus 2 years ago
    This was really awesome. style, graphics, animations, and coverage...great doc.
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  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Again, thanks for all the positive feedback! Feels good to know others appreciate ones work. :)
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  • Fernando 2 years ago
    Congrats! Very good job
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  • ESTHER 2 years ago
    Beautiful! I'm so inspired :) I really want to go to India now too!
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  • Gokhan Senses plus 2 years ago
    Beautiful :) Thank you :)
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  • Robert Morrissey 2 years ago
    Well Done, Bravo!
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  • Silje E. Jacobsen 2 years ago
    Fantastisk Erling, alle tusen som ser filmen din og digge den. Gratulere, eg e stolte av deg ;)
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Takk Silje :)
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  • iMak 2 years ago
    Hey Erling, I liked your documentary a lot, so I have decided to share it on my blog! justanothercoolblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/this-is-karma.html cheers! =)
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  • Just Victoria 2 years ago
    I can't thank you enough for adding this to Vimeo. An amazing piece of art, with a very special message.
    Truly inspirational, thanks again.
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  • Brian Van Peski plus 2 years ago
    GREAT WORK! You've officially been added to the documentary channel. :)
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  • Marty Nowak 2 years ago
    I think you did a good job on this production but I feel compelled to share this with you and everyone. Do not deceive people from the truth. Jesus said wide is the road that leads to destruction and narrow is the gate of salvation. Do not perpetuate the lie that doing good gets you salvation.

    Jesus is the only person who came and said he was God ...not Mohammed, not Buddah, no one can save you but Jesus.
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  • Andrew Carreon 2 years ago
    Excellent, well done, thank you so much!
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  • UNKNOWNBIKE co plus 2 years ago
    the whole worrrrrrrrrrld ~
    karrrrma ~ lol
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  • Roger Snowden 2 years ago
    Nice work. I must say, however, the participants miss the mark somewhat.

    Karma is most simply stated as the law of "cause and effect". Hence, there neither good nor bad karma.

    Simply karma.

    And, karma requires belief no more that does gravity. You are recognizing the obvious, ignoring it at your own peril.
  • Simona Kicurovska 2 years ago
    I agree with you Roger.

    Nicely done still..
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  • mike ambs plus 2 years ago
    Very awesome - loved watching this. It always makes me happy to watch something that makes me open up my perception.
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  • Aalok 2 years ago
    Well made video, but I'm sorry, i had to skip watching half way...you all really believe this??? Has anyone asked an INDIAN who doesn't believe in Karma?? Has anyone asked why India is the way it is...I think its easy to blame Karma for the way we are today and get away with everything....Please excuse this negative thought among all these positive comments...
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    This is simply a documentary about the view of karma. The intention was to make a film about the subject and not make a film about india in general. Also no matter what ones beliefs are I think it is important to make the distinction between what one has personal experience with and what one simply believes in without having done any kind of reflection or investigation. Personally, I think beliefs should be based on personal experience.
  • Aalok 2 years ago
    Personal experience is one thing and attributing your being to Karma is another....i didnt mean to bring out India as a subject in my comment....i just meant to say that people tend to "blame" karma for their present state of being....and that i think is escapism...the film is definitely well made....just one question, how often do you travel to India?
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    I have been to India twice. I dont know Indian mentality that well, but from what I have heard karma is sometimes used as an excuse for things being the way they are. I agree with you. One should not simply adopt a belief system and view the world through it and attribute events to it. But anyway I think the subject deserves to be explored and examined. Here in the west karma is mostly a vague idea to people. I also don´t think that everyone who believes in karma are blind believers. Many people have had some personal experience that made sense to them and I respect that.
  • Aalok 2 years ago
    peace...
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  • tommaso bovo 2 years ago
    very very gooood
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  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thanks again for all the positive feedback!
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  • A Rigged Production plus 2 years ago
    A well made documentary.

    Ideologically, I disagree with a number of things and yet agree with others but on the whole, a very well made documentary.
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  • chitra sukhu 2 years ago
    I enjoyed your video, can you tell me who did your music? I'm doing a video right now and would love to use them.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thanks. We went into studio with som musicians in India. Then a friend and I took the tracks and edited them adding beats, synths, guitars and so on. We have a lot more material that we did not use.

    What kind of video are you making?
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  • Mister Arasmus 2 years ago
    Thank you for the film. One possible avenue to think about exploring on this theme, is how inhumane a belief in karma can be. I was struck in your film by how ridiculous and cruel it was to respond to the poor people featured by suggesting that it was their fault that they were poor because they had done something bad in a previous life. The existence of a previous life is supposition. No one has proved it. This then is the distinction between karma and the idea of cause and effect. People like to equate the two because it more easy than correct. There is good and bad in all things. A belief in karma is good if it encourages us to do good. In this respect it is much the same as a belief in a Santa Claus that will reward good deeds during the year. A belief in karma is bad, cruel and inhumane if it distracts us from the true causes of poverty and sickness by suggesting that their origins are in some parallel universe that I just made up so that I can feel better. No one talks about this aspect of karma. Sometimes I think its because they don't think another culture can defend itself as well as their own, which is orientalism in another guise.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Exploring the social consequences of karma would be another film alltogether. Let me stress that he doesn´t blame poor people and say that it´s their own problem. He simply states if one believes in karma, then bad conditions also are a result of karma. Actually the proof is there if one is interested and open to it. There has been many cases of people remembering past lives and visisting their "old" family and knowing details about them they could not possibly know otherwise.
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  • skay 2 years ago
    amazing. i keep watchin it again and again. i like the message.
  • Erling Hoveid 2 years ago
    Thank you :)
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  • Cris Castaneda 2 years ago
    conscious film making,

    thank you.
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  • Fancydogwings ® 2 years ago
    i loved this vid man.you should have more of these kinds of vids,the way you played it out was to the point and very clear to understand.great!
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    Thank you! Glad you like it. I am planning to make more. Just have to finnish school first.
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  • And. Balestri 1 year ago
    Very good work Erling! I learn a lot from videos like this one.
    Just one remark. These considerations are valid for the indu view of karma, because karma is not the same in all eastern philosophies. I know buddhist karma which is more psychological. In particular, I liked the picture at 3:48 because it's a good (and funny too) rapresentation of the indu view.
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    That is interesting. How is the buddhist view of karma different from the hindu? When we made the film it soon became clear that there were different views so we kind of had to go with one that made the most sense to us.
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  • And. Balestri 1 year ago
    For what I know, buddhism sees Karma as the intention itself in a cause/effect process, where Vipaka is the effect. Different schools see the liberation in different ways, but in general any intentional action is like a seed in one's mind. If you hit someone because of envy, probably the effect won't be getting sick for that, likewise a vase won't fall on your head, but your envy itself is a bad seed and it's cause of sadness for you. If you get jealous just because someone is richer, your jealousy and your greed will make you sad. That's more or less buddhist karma. Buddhists think it's wrong to consider any happiness and suffering arising from previous karma; they say there must be a cause.
    Also, buddhists believe in rebirth instead of reincarnation because they don't believe in an existing "self".
    heheh I hope I was exhaustive enough :)
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    Yes I would think so too, that the effect is somehow closely related with the intention. The flower pot in the head is just a very simplified way of showing the principle graphically.
    I really think the philosophies are quite similar even though they use different terms and some points are different. I think they share some of the same deities.
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  • Patto Productions 1 year ago
    Beautiful doco, thanks for an insight into this world!
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  • Mark Simpson 1 year ago
    I love this video. Each time I watch it I find something new.

    In terms of the Buddhist/Hindu approach, I don't really know much about the Hindu approach but it seems very direct. Do good, receive good. Do bad, receive bad. My understanding of the Buddhist definition of it all is that virtuous action is its own reward. If you are doing something "good" with an expectation of something "good" in return, then you are off-track. Does that make sense? Focusing on the virtuous action IS the point; focusing on the reward is not. Just because you won't be rewarded for doing something good doesn't make it the right thing to do!

    With regards to the video, how did you find the people who were portrayed?

    Thanks,
    Mark
  • Erling Hoveid 1 year ago
    I am no expert, but I think that what you are saying probably applies to both traditions. I agree, good actions kind of lose their charm if one focuses on the reward too much, but the principle of karma is of course that there is an effect according to the action

    We made the film as part of a school-project. So we went down to Pondicherry for one month and basically just asked around. Some of them where affiliated with Sri Aurobindo´s ashram and Auroville.

    Glad you like the film :)
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  • matthew corton 1 year ago
    ...a beautiful piece of work...I duly hit the like button...number 666...I'm laughing and crying all at once...thank you...i think...
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  • Stine M. Lyngseth 1 year ago
    Utrolig fin film!
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