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18. 1Dmk4 Footage From Sydney New Years Eve 2009
2 years ago
This is a thrown together piece of footage I took with Canon's new 1Dmk4 which I had the chance to have a play with for a few days thanks to Ben Walton from Team Digital in Perth Western Australia.
I was off on True North again to capture some highlights of their Sydney Rocks cruise for New Years. I packed the 5Dmk2 and of course the Brand Spanking New 1Dmk4.
The pressure was on on two levels. One to shoot some nice footage for the owners of True North and Two to do justice to Canon's new super camera. Unfortunately no one told the weather to play ball and it was a dull grey dreary few days in Sydney.
Of course this is great for even light but if your trying to sell beds on boats blue sky wins out everytime. I alternated between the two camera's so I have more footage from this trip but I wanted to show only 1D footage in this edit.
I couldn't really distinguish between the footage of
the two cameras but noticed that the 1Dmk4 footage looked a little softer than the 5D. Maybe it was due to a smaller sensor and shooting 24p. Don't really know but it made me want to favor the 5D more.
The low light capabilities seemed no better than the 5D and as soon as I see noise in my footage I tend not to push the ISO anymore. At around 400 ISO on both cameras the noise to me became unacceptable but a proper test with both cameras in a studio set up would tell the story better.
Would I buy a 1Dmk4 over a 5Dmk2 if it was just to shoot video? Probably not. This was not a true opportunity to test the camera as I had a job to do and stuffing around was not an option. I'll get another chance with this camera in the next few days so maybe I'll set up some better tests.
Enjoy this for what it is. It's not my best work but at least those of you who are looking at this camera may have a better informed decision if considering buying one.
Gear used included 1Dmk4, 5Dmk2, Canon lenses TS-E 17mm f/4, 24mm f1.4, 85mm f/1.2, 400mm f/5.6, Filters etc etc......
Read more info at christianfletcher.wordpress.com
Music courtesy of Nine Inch Nails, "The Frail", Just Like You Imagined" awesome music.
I was off on True North again to capture some highlights of their Sydney Rocks cruise for New Years. I packed the 5Dmk2 and of course the Brand Spanking New 1Dmk4.
The pressure was on on two levels. One to shoot some nice footage for the owners of True North and Two to do justice to Canon's new super camera. Unfortunately no one told the weather to play ball and it was a dull grey dreary few days in Sydney.
Of course this is great for even light but if your trying to sell beds on boats blue sky wins out everytime. I alternated between the two camera's so I have more footage from this trip but I wanted to show only 1D footage in this edit.
I couldn't really distinguish between the footage of
the two cameras but noticed that the 1Dmk4 footage looked a little softer than the 5D. Maybe it was due to a smaller sensor and shooting 24p. Don't really know but it made me want to favor the 5D more.
The low light capabilities seemed no better than the 5D and as soon as I see noise in my footage I tend not to push the ISO anymore. At around 400 ISO on both cameras the noise to me became unacceptable but a proper test with both cameras in a studio set up would tell the story better.
Would I buy a 1Dmk4 over a 5Dmk2 if it was just to shoot video? Probably not. This was not a true opportunity to test the camera as I had a job to do and stuffing around was not an option. I'll get another chance with this camera in the next few days so maybe I'll set up some better tests.
Enjoy this for what it is. It's not my best work but at least those of you who are looking at this camera may have a better informed decision if considering buying one.
Gear used included 1Dmk4, 5Dmk2, Canon lenses TS-E 17mm f/4, 24mm f1.4, 85mm f/1.2, 400mm f/5.6, Filters etc etc......
Read more info at christianfletcher.wordpress.com
Music courtesy of Nine Inch Nails, "The Frail", Just Like You Imagined" awesome music.
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bloody good video for thrown together!!
I not changing cameras in a hurry.
synced to an Explosions in the sky soundtrack.
vimeo.com/8480907
I'd love any feedback, please check it out. The Music gets really good for the big finale.
Cheers Andrew
Of course I hate it…
he he
Avey
Cheers Avey
weedze
Nicolas
Mike
this country was made for the camera you know
and you're the right man for the job Fletcher...
Cheers
Mike
Na only joking. I'm a hack alright. I will respond to your video as soon as I get a second away from these comments.
Ya Hack times two:)
You used some pretty fast lenses with your 1D and ISO 400 was unacceptable.
I don't get it.
Your night footage looked great and I expected to see that your ISO was way up there.
I miss Sydney!!
Now maybe I'm just a Hack as my mate Rod Thomas said but it just didn't seem that good. If I pushed the ISO to 6400 like Vinnie did the footage would look like it was shot with my iphone. In defense of Mr Laforet maybe he knows what he's doing and I'm truly a Hack!!!
One thing is for sure Canon don't pay me or support me with pre production models and if they did I certainly would feel a little bit obliged to be pro the low light capabilities so as to not burn my bridges with my little mates. Now I stand to be proven wrong with these comments and I'm getting the chance to test both the 5D and 1Dmk4 against each other in a night shoot for an indi film being made here in Western Australia. If I'm totally wrong I will certainly announce myself as a Total "HACK" and never review another camera ever again.
The first footage that hit the world on a pre production DSLR was shot entirely at night or low light and not tested and shown in normal daylight conditions. Now when we all bought the camera, before the firmware update, as soon as you recorded footage during the day the camera overrode your beautiful shallow depth of field footage and turned it into Video.
Now was that deliberately withheld from us so as to not introduce doubt in purchasing the camera? Who knows? It's just as well they fixed the problem with a firmware update or else the 5D mk2 was going to be the biggest disappointment in the eyes of many "Hacks" like me.
I hope I dont get in the poo for telling it how I see it but I'm not in anyones pocket (not because I don't want to be, but who's going to get behind a "Hack" like me). I hope I prove myself wrong on Saturday.
Shivers, I have gone on a bit. I'm pretty sure the night stuff was shot at 400 ISO definitely not 6400. Please!!!!!!
Thanks for watching pdy.
Please don't send this comment to Canon as I still want to use their cameras as they are still the best in DSLR at the moment for Vid.
Cheers
Mike
2:23 is awesome. Why didn't you tried the timelapse ? The sky was really beautiful and you could have an amazing scene ;)
Filming with the Canon 1DMK4 and being in Australia !!!
Two dreams beyond my ability but thank you very much for the share ! Awesome video.
I'm lucky just ask my wife. Tee Hee....
i like your filming and editing style ;)
Oh well...
Thanks for watching Matt.
The video functions are just a bonus for me. I like to play with it, but nothing serious so far. So I was glad to see your video.
Could you please tell me what are the auto-focusing options on 1DmkIV in video mode? How does it work?
And; could you please, just for the sake of an experiment, post some videos on extremely high iso settings (like 6400 or even 12800), perhaps with both cameras.
Thank you so much !
Yes auto focus on the 5D is a bit poor. The 1Dmk4 has no auto focus in video mode so it's manual all the way.
My brother has been playing around with a Nikon D3s and loves the auto focus and sharpness of the Nikon glass. Take a look at his blog christianfletcher.wordpress.com He has reviewed the D3s and is ready to sell up all our Canon gear for it.
I'll do the video test for you and post it ASAP.
Mike
Press the button and bingo.
If your not using FCP get it ESAP.
Failing that Vimeo has tutorials on compression to there format. Go to help in the menu and you will eventually find the info you need.
Mike
Thanks for watching.
as always your video looked superb.. you must have been responsible for many canon 5d sales over the months !!
i finally got my 5d the day after xmas (i never seem to get the great stuff in time for xmas day!)
i have a long road a head of me learning this beast !!
i invested in a canon 70-200 2.8 non IS and it looks great, now i need to figure out what 2 lenses to invest in so i have all bases covered ..
i plan to start with doing some music videos.
at the moment im looking at the canon 24-70 2.8
or 17-40mm and maybe 50mm
any explination why you use primes and any advice would be great :-)
looking forward to your next masterpiece
My favourite lens is the 85mm f/1.2 It's really sharp and fast and looks great for people shots.
Good luck with the 5D mate and send me a link to your next vid creation on the 5D.
Mike
im only interested in using the 5d to shoot video,
would you still say get primes for video or zooms ?
thanks again
will do
See my brothers testing of the D3s at christianfletcher.wordpress.com
Between around 0:45 and 1:15, there are a string of shots where the foreground, almost the lower third of the frame, are quite soft. Not just the foreground water, but even the porous rock at frame right, are very soft, and they're not so close to us. Further, the distant foliage at centre top of frame is pretty soft. Watching it, I wondered if you had done something intentional with a shift lens or something... but I see Joe Simon's note about anti-aliasing. Is that all that is? If it were a compression issue, I could understand it more with the moving water, but I don't understand why even the stationary rock should be so soft. (I'm assuming it's not a DOF issue.) Similar fg and top-of-frame softness in the first forest shots after the water shots. Could you explain what's going on there?
Beautiful shots of the animals. The light on the giraffes is gorgeously soft, almost 'translucent' looking. Were you using any of the camera's "Picture Style" settings there, other than the defaults?
You had a couple of really nice, slow and subtle pushes in here and there, which I thought were zooms... but I didn't notice any zoom lenses on your list. Can you tell us what you had the camera mounted on?
And...
I'd ruled out all the other Canons because the ability to shoot at 24 or 30 (29.97) fps at full 1080p is important to me, and the APS-C is just way too small. I ruled the 5DMkII out because I recall reading somewhere that it would only do 20fps... but now I can't seem to find any confirmation of its frame rate on Canon's web site. Am I right about the 20fps limit?
And lastly...
You and a few of your colleagues here mentioned firmware updates for the 5DMkII. Could you explain what those updates might do for that camera's abilities? (If I could get by with the cheaper MkII, which has a bigger chip, well, that would be swell, wouldn't it.)
Thanks again for the upload and your review.
In Summary. The softness in the shots you mentioned where due to me using a Tilt Shift lens to get that effect. It is definitely not the camera.
I set the camera on landscape picture style.
The zoom was done in edit with final Cut Pro. Very subtle movements gives the impression a dolly was used.
The 5D currently shoots 30fps at full 1080p HD. The firmware update will reportedly give the 5D additional frame rates of 25p, 50p and 24p. This probably wont come in until they have sold a shit load of 7D's
I'd buy a 5D before all else. It's still the best camera on the market in my eyes.
Thanks for watching
Mike
And I humbly accept the award for Longest Comment. It's a distinction. :)
D
I cant help but see all the faults in my footage. It eats me up. I just wish it was perfect with no blemishes. A bit like a photoshopped Jen Hawkins.
May not get the opportunity again unless I pay for it and that aint going to happen in a hurry.
Catch Ya Mate.
Mike
Sydney, are you trying to become United? We will be thrilled for you to join US.
The fireworks were very similar to the ones in Rio, here in Brazil.
Congrats!
Mike
R
The earlier animal shots are beautiful and like a lot of contributers above I wish baby elephants stayed like they are in your video - and you could keep them as pets.
I'm now away to save up; is a 1D MK4 cheaper than an elephant?
Happy New Year Michael
synced to an Explosions in the sky soundtrack.
vimeo.com/8480907
please check it out. The Music gets really good for the big finale.
Thanks.
Very good video!
I have literally this week started to have an interest in shooting and editing videos, and I'd be interested to know what sort of money would I have to spend to have a camera good enough for this job?
I am 3rd on the list in Vancouver for the 1d mk iv and am a little nervous considering some of the obvious aliasing and moiring in the cityscapes and boatshots.
Nonetheless, great work!
All the best.
Can you please tell how you color grade and what software used?
...and you're not a hack dude!
Cheers,
True North Mark
Stop massaging his ego.....
Can I just ask...
For the pans across the buildings, etc. are they hand-held or are you smoothing the movement with some kit? Loving the dreamy feel of them.
The Tilt Shift lens - apologies for my ignorance, but what does it do and how?
Also, on the in-camera resolution, an Editor I know bad-mouthed the 5D for only being H.264 compression despite being 'full HD'. Is this true? Is there a way of bypassing the compressor? If it is H.264 presumably it won't be great when blown up...????
Accept your point about blue sky's selling boat trips, but all looks fabulous to me.
Cheers
Stephen