This was a very brave attempt to expose growth and maturity in the American evangelical movement. I was drawn to be program by the book Jesus for President by Shane Claiborne and Chris Haw, which shows this growth. Two points stood out: First: meanness is as unwelcome in evangelicals as in anyone else. Second: politics and religion are like manure and ice cream: mix them together and the manure stays pretty much the same, but the ice cream definitely loses something. Also, I heard in the discussion that we must stay open to hearing God saying things that are different or even opposite to what we have construed as God's meaning, and are urging as God's platform. God made so many humans because the message of love is infinite and inexhaustible, and always surprising. To be used by God we must give up the temptation to use God. In this conversation I hear hope that a newer generation of evangelicals can beat the bad rap that the outspoken views of some have earned over the past 40 years, reported and elaborated with relish by the media. Thanks, Krista Tippet, for keeping your promise to not allow differences to become polarized. That seems to be the major hazard whenever religion and politics come together.