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16. Flash Player 10.1 on Google Nexus One
1 year ago
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Thibault Imbert and Michael Chaize demonstrate the power of the new Flash PLayer 10.1 on the Google Nexus One. I apologize for my bad battery management shooting the video. For those who wants to see how the battery reacts playing Flash content on the Google Nexus One, please check that blog post: flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/24/battery-performance-with-flash-player-10-1-on-nexus-one/

And my personal answer: vimeo.com/9724682

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  • Kevin Cao 1 year ago
    Wow...very impressive.
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  • molokoloco 1 year ago
    give me a nexus (my boss says no) and a flash licence (my boss says yes) and i run !
    But... waouuu
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  • zakovyrya 1 year ago
    Very cool. What's up with the battery indicator?
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    What you don't see is that it's a shortcut movie. We didn't shoot it in a row and played more than two hours, continuously with the Nexus One. The Flash Player 10.1 has implemented a lot of tips to optimize the usage of the CPU.
  • zakovyrya 1 year ago
    There is a lot of people out there waiting to take a shot at Flash on battery consumption. Would be nice if you make it clear in the video that the actual duration was far longer than 7-8 mins. Great job guys!
  • Albert Attia 1 year ago
    The clock on the phone says 3:59 PM when the video starts and ends at 4:07 PM, unless you shot at different days I dont see how you got two hours.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Ok then. I'll shot a video tomorrow "Me, my nexus one, and the flash player" with a clock. We'll see what happens. Next episode on Thursday :)
  • Arun 1 year ago
    In nexus one there are only few steps for the battery. It is quite possible that the battery was at slightly above 30, at which point it shows as 50% full and it went slightly below 30, when it goes yellow.
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  • Alex Grinko 1 year ago
    ten minuts and no battery...
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Actually, I've played with the NExus One and Flash more than two hours in a row. It's just that we haven't captured all the sequences. Cut, cut, cut.
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  • Darwiniandude 1 year ago
    Very cool. And I say that as someone who loves his iPhone and wouldn't want flash on it anyway unless it could be switched off. But the performance demonstrated is more than usable, well done.

    The battery issue? Well if i'm being objective and not an Apple fanboy I'd say that it 'jumped' from a half reading to a quarter reading. It's possible the nexus battery indicator has only 4 states, full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and then is empty. Can anyone confirm? It could have therefore in the video been nearly down to 1/4 when it showed as 1/2, if that makes sense.

    But I'd love to see more testing. Surely Flash would have to drain the battery pretty massively fast. Can you switch it off/disable flash on the nexus 1? I hope so. Pity about the screen being such poor quality though I'd rather they used a normal LCD the technology is far more mature/accurate.
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  • medul6 1 year ago
    yeah, battery life ...
    ... and I thought steve jobs was exaggerating when he said the ipad would only last 1.5 hours if it would play the flash elements. thanks but no thanks, I don't want that on my phone/tablet.
    funny presentation, though!
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  • Sebusinek 1 year ago
    nice and all but you definitely need 6700 battery with that. A full tank. Better to drag your laptop along !
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Don't misinterpret the movie. We have cut a lot of sequences and played with the phone more than two hours in a row. I mean without any pause. Believe, it will not ruin your battery
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  • Predrag Vasic 1 year ago
    Looks like it was a very careful choice of Flash web sites that don't require use of mouse cursor, mouse hover and right-click functions. These are very few and far between. The most fundamental functionality of vast majority of Flash content today relies on mouse-overs, mouse hovers and right-clicking. None of which is possible on Nexus One (or any other touch-only device).

    So, what's the use of Flash if all you can get to is the first screen (right after "Skip Intro...")?
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    right clicking on the Flash Player ? I'd be surprised :)
    That said, you're right. All the Flash applications are not optimized for the "Touch experience", and developers need to redesign the UI to handle these new kinds of interactions. The Multitouch class in the ActionScript 3 API can tell you if you run your application with a Touch device or not.
  • Predrag Vasic 1 year ago
    I agree about right-clicking, although I've seen some Flash content use it. But mouse-hover, mouse-over, even just requiring a movable mouse pointer (arrow, turning into a finger when over something clickable) is a fundamental part of everything, from Farmville, to Playhouse Disney, to Hulu (for those who live in America) to everything between.

    I'm curious to see who will eventually win: Apple with their stubborn pursuit of Flash-less browsing (apparently, YouTube, Vimeo and Hulu are already offering Flash-less experience, because of Apple), or Adobe, pouring more money and effort into streamlining Flash and providing proper multi-touch API? I'm reluctant to bet against Steve Jobs these days...
  • zeh fernando 1 year ago
    What makes you think any other platform would be any different?
  • Predrag Vasic 1 year ago
    It's not that any other platform would be much different; Adobe can make an effort and deliver Flash for all mobile platforms. However, most energy would be required to re-program all Flash content to properly work with multi-touch. So, even if Adobe successfully gets their mobile Flash player on all but Apple hardware, it may still be problematic if majority of non-Apple mobile hardware is also touch-screen. The point is, current owners of Flash content may end up deciding it is just easier to re-do their web content around Flash then to re-do it for touch-based Flash and then ignore Apple hardware. YouTube, Vimeo and Hulu have already done this.
  • HL 1 year ago
    >However, most energy would be required to re-program all Flash content to properly work with multi-touch.

    Apple's solution seems to be to make developers re-program their site to not use flash at all.

    That a whole lot more work than modifying for multi-touch.
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  • NYPunk88 1 year ago
    Very impressive... on how it can drain your battery in just a few short minutes. Steve Jobs was right.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    No he wasn't. Please don't use this shortcut. We played more than 2 hours with the phone. Maybe I should shoot a two hours videos of me playing with the Flash PLayer on the Google Nexus One :) lol
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  • Pepi Zawodsky 1 year ago
    Further assures me that I definitely do not want Flash on any device let alone any mobile device. Flash is over, no matter how you try to turn it Adobe.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Flash is over. Good to know :)
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  • Predrag Vasic 1 year ago
    Michael,

    You should be prepared for a flood of comments from iPhone fans. Your video was featured on MDN (MacDailyNews), with a special attention drawn to the battery icon (changing from half to one quarter). They all seem to see this as a proof how much of a resource hog Flash is.

    As you (and most other people) know, there's this fringe group of Apple fans that is very vocal and devoted to their cause. Many seem to have already voiced their opinion above...
  • NYPunk88 1 year ago
    And because we're apart of this group our opinions as consumers no longer matter?? This video is a very good example of the battery taxing resources it takes to play something as trivial as flash. It's not HD playback or loading up a complex app but only some games and streaming some video in the span of two hours. I don't know about you but I need a phone that can last a bit longer. I don't see this phone reaching the iPhone's level of usage in the span of a day.

    When you factor in all the other things on top of what you do day in and day out on your phone this level of performance is unacceptable.

    And Steve Jobs was right for not including flash on the iphone. Yet everyone else was say that he was wrong. Eat crow.
  • HL 1 year ago
    >but I need a phone that can last a bit longer.

    If your argument is your iphone lasts longer because you don't go to sites that have flash on them .... that's not a real argument.

    You could do the same thing with the Nexus One and get just as good battery performance.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Yeah I saw the article. Steve Jobs is very popular and I can understand that some people are fully devoted. What I believe is that the truth always win at the end. Once people will enjoy flash games and videos on mobiles such as the Nexus One, this debate will be very very far away from our minds.
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  • Zeno Popovici 1 year ago
    The clock of the device shows continuous usage. (8 minutes - 3:59 - 4:07) Did you reset the clock at regular intervals, or what? This is why people think, you've drained the battery in 8 minutes.
  • King Chung Huang 1 year ago
    That's what I'm wondering. The clock shows less than 10 minutes of usage.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Yeah I see that. I'll shoot a video with a clock to calculate how long can last the Nexus + Flash player with a continuous usage. It's a good topic. I should shoot it tomorrow. More to come guys :)
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  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    BTW guys, check out this new demo: vimeo.com/9676200
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  • NYPunk88 1 year ago
    It's supposedly a two hour video that's been edited, yet the clock on the phone itself only shows a few min of usage.

    You're not being honest now. FAIL
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    I'll shoot a video on this specific topic ASAP. I understand the battery consumption is a big concern. I'll publish it this week
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  • NYPunk88 1 year ago
    What happen to all the comments Michael? You took them out? I'm only seeing two.

    FAIL
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    ? I didn't play with the comments. Are your comments missing ? Sorry for that
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  • Predrag Vasic 1 year ago
    What happened to all the discussion here???
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  • Arun 1 year ago
    Michael, how did you get the flash player installed on nexus one? Do you work for adobe or do you know someone in google or adobe? :)
  • HL 1 year ago
    There's a bootleg of the binary floating around. I saw it mentioned on Gizmodo.
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    This a beta version of the Flash Player 10.1. I work for Adobe, that's why I can showcase it. Even for the beta, the performances are awesome !!! This is the first time I can fully feel the power of Flash on a mobile phone. So fast !
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  • rori 1 year ago
    Drain or not drain..
    I want this on my Nex1...please tell me when ??????? :-)
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  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Sorry guys for the noise on the battery stuff. It wasn't the purpose of this video, and I didn't run optimized content to demonstrate the power of the Flash Player 10.1. For those who have doubts on the battery consumption, here is a great post. flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/24/battery-performance-with-flash-player-10-1-on-nexus-one/

    I will publish my own demonstration asap.

    Thanks guys.
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  • Chess Mess 1 year ago
    Kind of off topic but what what was the song that is at the end of the video about the 'Crooked Man'? Who sings that?

    (can you specify the album/track? I can't tell which one Charlotte song it is.) Thanks!

    IRM / Greenwich Mean Time by Charlotte Gainsbourg

    Nice song! I'm a new fan :)
  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    It's the last album of the French singer Charlotte Gainsbourg. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Run and buy the album. Awesome music (written with Beck)
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  • michael chaize plus 1 year ago
    Hi guys,
    here is my personal answer regarding battery consumption:
    vimeo.com/9724682
  • mike mckelvery 1 year ago
    Whut up Mike.. my names Mike also...anyway am here n the united states new York city n I just got my nextus one on March 28..when will I get the flash player 10.1? Thought I have it on the right out the box..I heard adobe will send pix out straight to the phone...do u no when will that. Be? Get back soon thanks
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