New Features

  • Share on Twitter
    Now you can share your videos on Twitter! Just click the Share icon in a video to launch the Share module.
  • Channel Notifications
    Channel owners now have a new section in their channel settings to optionally receive emails for when someone posts a message to their shoutbox and for when someone subscribes to their channel. Adding moderators to your channel also now has an approval process, where both parties will receive emails when the request happens, and when the request is approved.
  • People Subscribed To Me
    There is now a new page within your My Contacts where you can see what users are subscribed to you and what they are subscribed to (likes, videos, and/or appearances).
  • Featured videos for your group
    Have any videos you want to show off in your group? You can easily add any 3 group videos to feature on your group homepage.
  • Featured videos on your profile page
    Have any videos you want to show off on your profile page? You can easily add any of your 3 public videos to feature on your profile page. Try it now.
  • Removing Video Thumbnails
    Everytime you upload a video, you get 12 thumbnails to choose from. Now, a month from the day you upload your video, we will automatically remove any unused thumbnails. But you will always be able to upload your own.
  • Improved Searching
    We've been waiting for this. The toolbar search is now much more accurate.
  • Login and Join Vimeo Lightbox
    Clicking on most login and join links will now trigger a lightbox overlay where you can quickly login or join Vimeo and stay on your current page.
  • Better referrer statistics
    Now we record every page that videos get embeded on, check it out in the stats section to the right of any video page.
  • Share on MySpace
    Everyone says they hate it, but everyone has a MySpace profile! We've added MySpace to the Sharing options.
  • Badge additions
    You can now add channels and albums to any Badge that you create. Yipeee!
  • Daily Email Update
    You can now receive a daily email full of what's happening in your Vimeo world. Sign up is located in your notifications settings.
  • Converting time during transcoding
    Ted and Casey added a nifty little feature that will display the time remaining to convert your video during uploads.
  • New Hubnut Behavoir
    From now on, the Hubnut will not auto-rotate when it is loaded on a page. This will only affect all newly created Hubnuts, not those that are currently used on other sites.
  • Search Channels
    Now you can FINALLY search for Channels. Use the 'Search' box in the top navigation bar, make sure its set on 'Channels', and search away!
  • Posting to Flickr
    It's back! You can once again post your videos to Flickr. You can also post albums. Do this by clicking on Share and navigating to the "Post this..." tab.
  • Expanded Tag Browsing
    Clicking a tag from a video will bring you to an improved tag browsing experience. Now you can browse videos with that tag in your videos, all videos, your contacts' videos and more. Vimeo members who use that tag most are also noted.
  • New Avatar Feature
    Clicking any "avatar" aka user portrait will bring up a menu of actions you can take regarding that user. Use this menu to add contacts, subscribe to videos, and send messages to users you see on Vimeo
  • Spam Filters
    We've recently rolled out some great new spam filters that we think will help keep spammers off of Vimeo. Of course its impossible to stop ALL spammers, so if you ever see any send an email to Help@vimeo.com and we'll take care of it.
  • Add Multiple Email Addresses
    Now you can add multiple email addresses to your account and then sign in with any of them using the same password. Just set one as your main address, verify it after we send you an email, and you're all set.
  • Hi everyone,

    The staff here at Vimeo is committed to making this website stick around for a long time. We want your videos to live here for years and years, so that you can relive moments from your life and re-watch your creative achievements. In order to make that possible, we have to keep a close eye on the costs of running the site, and make sure that we're not being irresponsible with our resources.

    Since the very beginning, Vimeo has retained the original video files that you upload, and allowed you to grant people permission to download those files. We always take these original files and convert them so that they will play online and in the Vimeo player. We kept the original files for download because we wanted you to be able to save your video exactly the way it looked when it left your hard drive. This aspect of the service was not a huge burden on us when the site was younger, but we've had to take another look at what we are realistically capable of offering for years to come, while making sure the site stays on budget. Original file storage of every file for every user is a massive cost, and we have noticed that only a very small set of users actually ever download their own files. We want to keep original file storage around as a feature for people who use it, but we can't continue to do it for everybody.

    Starting August 1st, basic accounts' original source files will be stored for one week from the upload date, after which they will be removed. Of course the converted Vimeo video will always be there in the Vimeo player, ready to be watched again and again, anywhere you choose to embed or share it. We will also still provide a download link so people can save the converted file to their computer (in MP4 format).

    This new one-week policy applies to all basic accounts' videos uploaded from this point onwards. For videos that were uploaded before this blog post, those original files will be available until August 1st, to give you some time to download them if you need to. After August 1st, those files will also be removed.

    For Plus users nothing will change: we're going to continue hosting your original video source files for both your existing videos and any new videos you upload. We appreciate your support, and we want to continue improving the Plus service, not limit it. If you choose not to renew your Plus service, we'll keep your original videos for one month past the end of your subscription to give you time to download your videos or decide if you want to renew. Additionally, if a basic user upgrades to Plus within the one week window after they upload a video, that original file will be kept as long as they are a Plus member.

    Please understand that this is not a devious scheme to force you to upgrade to Plus. This was a hard decision to make, but we make these changes to ensure Vimeo's longevity so that you *can* use it for free. By making this choice, we keep ourselves in good shape to stick around and provide you with the absolute best video sharing experience in the universe!

    • Nick Ciontea plus 5 months ago
      thank the vimeo god for plus

      very understandable
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    • JuicyLime plus 5 months ago
      i believe in vimeo. keep up da good arbeit.
    • Andrew Beal 3 months ago
      the word is work, ha ha deutsch-english doesnt work for everyone. aber wir können auf Deutsch-English sprecken.
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    • Chris Sternal-Johnson plus 5 months ago
      Makes sense, that's a lot of storage place. Glad you're keeping them around for Plus members - if you change that in the future, please give us the option to pay more to keep them. I lose things not stored on the Web!
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    • Paul Shmelov 5 months ago
      Let me get this straight, our videos will be deleted August 1st if we don't switch to Plus?
    • Matt staff 5 months ago
      Hi Paul,

      Any video you have uploaded will have their source files removed on August 1st. Any video you upload from this point on will be have its source file removed after 1 week. However we will still hold onto our MP4 version for you to download.
    • Emrys Roberts plus 5 months ago
      From what I understand the converted files that will play in the vimeo player will not go away. Just the option to have your original upload file to be downloaded later will go away. The space needed to hold the original unconverted file is just too much.
    • Daniel Hayek staff 5 months ago
      That is correct. The converted MP4 file or the file we create to show online will still be available for downloading if the video creator wishes so.
    • Paul Shmelov 5 months ago
      Alright, didn't upgrading to Plus used to be $25? (Or was that per month?) I'm not sure if im quite ready to pay $60...
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      It's been $59.95 since we launched it :)
    • BigCrow 5 months ago
      $25 is on Flickr, not here :D
    • BigCrow 5 months ago
      No, $25 is on Flicker, not here :)
    • Nina Araújo plus 4 months ago
      Just think: $60.00/year to share great movies and connect with people in so many ways. I don't work for vimeo. Just a happy customer!
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    • Alex Itin plus 5 months ago
      Great because I actually do end up downloading original files fairly often.
    • eat a bug 5 months ago
      Man, how the heck did I miss out on a PLUS account? I've been with vimeo since the beginning days dogg!!!!!!!
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    • Emrys Roberts plus 5 months ago
      Completely understandable. Thanks for explaining the background of the decision as well. You guys really do help the community feel connected to vimeo, beyond just paying for it. :)
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    • Jorge plus 5 months ago
      long live Vimeo! You guys are bad! Keep up the awesome work!
    • Daniel Hayek staff 5 months ago
      Thanks Jorge. We do try to be bad, as in good, every day.
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    • Cody Smith 5 months ago
      kind of a bummer, but i completely understand making that a plus feature. just one of many reasons i should upgrade soon.
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    • Daniel McKeown 5 months ago
      This makes me glad that I have a podcast and don't rely on Vimeo to host source files.

      I can't imagine that this ploy will actually get your server costs down to where your bosses must want them.
      What are you going to cut next for free accounts?
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      We don't have any plans to cut free accounts, no.
    • Jay Mari 5 months ago
      I don't think this is unreasonable for free users. As Director of Software Dev for a small company, I can sympathize with Vimeo. Storage costs, even in this day and age (and economy), are still pretty high. Don't forget this also cuts down on potential bandwidth costs as well.

      Vimeo offers such great content, better than other social networking video sites that may or may not rhyme with ShmooFloob. Keep up the great work!
    • Operator7G plus 5 months ago
      There's no need to get snarky about losing this feature for free accounts, seeing as how you have an account for which you're paying...nothing. Quite frankly, $60/yr ($5/month) is less than what most people pay for a single lunch per month at a fast food restaurant, and you don't derive nearly as much utility from that.
    • C U studio 5 months ago
      I was never even aware of vimeo keeping the source files and frankly don't see why they should. The full quality (uncompressed or not) video file of your movie should be stored safely for archive and recompression on YOUR computer. That's just basic. Just like a photo developer (remember those?) would send you back the negatives after development, which are your responsibilty to store.
    • Zenith Productions 5 months ago
      It's just nice cause people can download the source file of your video...without uploading it somewhere else for people to download the original movie file..
    • Ivan Abreu 4 months ago
      "That's just basic" I agree. Back ups on my two computers, external HD, my girlfriend's computer, my dad's computer, tapes (old fashion, but safe media) AND FTP. by the way: a uncompressed 50 minutes documentary for broadcast just on tape and apple sever.
    • Sinan Ascioglu 4 months ago
      Reply to "Storage costs, even in this day and age (and economy), are still pretty high": No. Please read "Waste is Good" by Chris Anderson at Wired magazine this month (or here wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-07/mf_freer). Allowing waste space is manageable if you can make use of it in a smart way. I understand that video size is way bigger than pics, mp3s, etc.. But that was also a freekin' idea when youtube started hosting compressed videos.
      I guess Vimeo could be smarter on what could be done with these uncompressed videos. (Top of my head; how about editing options? mixing? local theater screenings? Media-company workflow service, etc..). I think, if Vimeo is going to be just a cool-looking Youtube, yes there is no need to serve anything different. If Vimeo is going to make difference, other ways can be considered/brainstormed too. Just my 2 cents from the dark-side. :)
    • Sinan Ascioglu 4 months ago
      or how about asking a question: "Would you like us to keep the original file of your video?" after each upload.
    • Felipe Budinich 4 months ago
      "I can't imagine that this ploy will actually get your server costs down to where your bosses must want them."

      I think it will, since most people lack the basic understanding on how to compress a file without destroying it. So they just don't compress them :-)

      Besides it would be a bummer if the compression was as bad as youtube's, but it is really good.

      Keep Up the good Work!
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    • Underground Planet plus 5 months ago
      I was nervous and hating life till I got to the "For Plus users nothing will change". =)

      I love that aspect of Vimeo. Though I don't allow downloads full time I do enable it for clients or other select reasons and would hate to loose that. And it's a huge comfort knowing I've got a version out there that I can always go back to God forbid I ever loose the originals.

      Thanks guys.

      - Ray
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    • Ivan 5 months ago
      I predicted this a year ago, but then my thread was locked by the staff. Once you got vimeo finetuned thanks to feedback and input from thousands of free accounts, you steadily move on to debilitating the free account completely. Proof of this lies in the fact that your move is retrograde and deletes all the files that are already on your servers, unless users buy a plus account.
      Vimeo has always boasted a loyal, friendly community... which is true. But Vimeo's management now shows its true colors: they can't face the heat of the competition and lack the skill of generating income through advertisement... In the past couple of weeks, Vimeo started advertising Scientology on their non-plus accounts, which is in many countries considered a sect, or worse, a criminal organisation. I wonder what you'll be adversiting next. Guns? Drugs? The Republican Party?
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      Could you please send the URLs for these Scientology ads to help@vimeo.com? We're unaware of their presence.
    • Mike Harvey plus 5 months ago
      I am always amazed at people who get upset and whine over the littlest of things. You can still download a copy of the video in .mp4 format, or upgrade to a Plus account to keep the original format if it's that important to you.

      Remember, you're not paying anything for the service. Vimeo is FREE. You get what you pay for. Frankly, as a paying member, I could care less if they deleted my original files and just kept the .mp4 versions. I don't use Vimeo for storage. I (and I'm sure most others) use it because it's a wonderful place to share your work. Really, if keeping the original format is that important to you, you should be backing it up offsite.

      PS, I'm a Republican and a (multiple... and legal) gun owner... attacking people with different politics than you isn't going to sway anyone to your side... especially when the argument has nothing to do with politics. Besides, this isn't the place for it.
    • Jon Ibe 5 months ago
      I have also seen these ads a couple of days ago - and frankly - i was kinda shocked
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      The original files ARE important for those who want to try out for instance raw video files before they buy a new camera to test out with their pc/NLE.
      Deleting existing files is like putting a gun against the head of a non-plus user. This is HIJACKING, something I 'd never expect from the 'friendly' staff.
    • jordan levine plus 5 months ago
      Obviously if you see 'advertisements' for anything on free accounts, this is just an exercise in free speech. These ads are not bothering you anywhere else on the site, aside from on the account itself. Think of it as fun, found footage. This isn't the strip mall of YouTube, so enough complaining.

      Even though I have a Plus account, the MP4 conversion of my file is not really useful to me, esp. for the clips from XDCam. I love H264 as I think it's awesome for internet usage, but the Vimeo conversion gives quite a bit of motion compensation and weird posterization. For HD, this is still fine compared to Sorenson or whatever it is that YouTube uses, but my only hope for Plus users is that we will be able to upload a codec somewhat better than H264 or at least a full 1080p framesize...Videopress now offers it so you guys should start trying, too!

      Otherwise Vimeo still kicks everything else's ass and the complaining should cease...

      Tschau.
    • Nilz 5 months ago
      Well not really man, any video that is small enough to upload to vimeo is almost certainly compressed and far from "raw".

      I think its perfectly reasonable for vimeo not to act as a free hosting service, which is actually some thing I have used it for to give people video files.
    • Mike Harvey plus 5 months ago
      Bingo... I can't think of any format that you can upload RAW straight from the camera that would be small enough for basic accounts. HDV is and old format that manufacturers are moving away from... plus if you don't know if your computer can handle it, you need a new computer anyways. The same with XDCam/XDCam EX. AVCHD/AVCCam needs to be converted, as it's an entire file structure, not just a file.

      This isn't hijacking. You can't hijack something you own. And you can't have something hijacked from you if you never owned it or paid for it.
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      Well, I recently wanted to buy a new camera. And I discovered that my pc could easily edit motjon jpeg, and the avhcd files of the Panasonic Gh1, but not the avchd files of the canon sx1. I downloaded all these 'raw' files and tested them out. I challenge you to edit these files with Sony's Vegas on any commercially available pc. Your preview framerate will drop to 6fps.

      Anyhow, the point is: Vimeo is victim of its own success. There are simply too many users, which results in incredibly slow performance, and Vimeo's management failed to do the necessary hardware upgrading, nor did they anticipate any sound financial scheme nor attracted healthy investors. Vimeo is a globally know product. So how difficult can it be to get some investors finance hardware/storage? Read my lips: this new 'source file policy' is just the tip of the iceberg. There is much more going on, but they just don't want to let us in on it.
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      On the contrary, this decision is a part of sound financial thinking.

      Investors are irrelevant, as Vimeo is already an operating business of InterActiveCorp. That doesn't mean we can be irresponsible with our budget.

      We're being completely transparent here with the thinking behind this decision. I understand that having the source files helped you decide on what camera to purchase, but I'm quite sure that's not a common use of Vimeo at all, and we can't host millions of files just to make that possible.

      You are correct in saying that our success and growth has led us to this point where we realize it's not fiscally responsible to continue to offer hosting of source files for the Basic account. We explained that up front.
    • Paco Rubio plus 5 months ago
      I agree with Mike. I think you just can't DEMAND whatever you want from a service that is FREE. For instance, I have suffered the amazingly long upload time of Vimeo, or the censorship in YouTube regarding song rights. However, in spite of all this, I couldn't be more glad to have found this page and these people. I am grateful for this atmosphere and this service. And Ivan, while you make some interesting points, you sound too offensive, man.
    • Gabriel Shalom plus 5 months ago
      I really like the ability to download the source, even if its not used that often. Its a little detail that separates Vimeo from the bulk of other video sharing services. I like how it encourages collaboration. If it must be limited to plus members for Vimeo to keep its costs in line, I think that's reasonable.
    • Michael Gebert plus 5 months ago
      It's revealing that Ivan thinks the benefits should be free for him... but not available at all to the "too many users" who came after him and are ruining his sweet deal. That's real democratic! I think this is a perfectly reasonable policy and people who want more can shell out the piddly $60.
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      My biggest frustration is actually the fact that the change works retroactively.
      @Paco: I'm not being offensive to any person. I'm critisizing a corporate decission. I actually sympahtize with the staff.
      @Paco again: you mention censorship at YouTube. Well, I fully support their decision to delete commercial music. From day one at Vimeo, I've been amazed that Vimeo has no restrictions about copyrighted music being used here illegally. It is a sword of Damocles above their head, legally, at least in my country, but more importantly, it is an insult to the musicians who created the original music. I know US law is lax when it comes to this, but in my view, it is a matter of principle.
    • Efraim Klein 5 months ago
      Man, you really don't know how to NOT be obnoxious, do you?
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      @Efraim: If you want to join this discussion, try to come up with an argument, instead of calling me names.
    • emodave138 5 months ago
      If you don't like the changes, I'm sure Vimeo would be happy to refund the $0.00 you paid for their still completely stellar service.

      Vimeo is a business, not a charity dude.
    • Evan Davis 5 months ago
      @Ivan: I wouldn't worry about losing your free privileges if I were you. The staff seems to be very open to us on why they made this decision, and it is a reasonable one to make. They've assured us that they are not planning on removing the free membership. So why not take their word for it. Surely, they know what's going on better then we do. But why on earth would they not let us in on it? (Maybe you're a conspiracy theorist; "much more going on." What!?)

      Besides, even if they do take away the free membership, it's free! And you can't complain. If you want, you can go find some other company to host your videos for free.

      On another note, you can't be sure that you aren't offending anyone, especially if someone suggests that you were. It might be better to apologize instead.
    • Dave Christenson plus 5 months ago
      vimeo is an amazing collective of talented people...it begins with the people behind vimeo who help maintain this place for artists and art lovers to mingle...all that storage has got to be expensive to maintain...just back all your stuff up if it has any value to you at all...last time i checked vimeo wasn't a place to store your video files...thats what your hard drive at home is for...and if its that important get a plus account...i think it costs a whopping 15 cents a day per year...i have never heard someone lament so much about something that was free...just relax...grab a drink...and come join the party...
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      @Dave:
      In the past couple of months, I was in the process of deciding what new camera to buy. I did lot's of research, and for this, Vimeo was of great help:
      1) I could download raw video files and check whether my pc/NLE could easily edit them.
      2) I downloaded many original files in order to take a closer look at noise levels, compression artifacts etc, while this is very hard to do with a heavily compressed MP4.
      3) In don't use vimeo as storage for my video files myself. My biggest frustration, I repeat, is that the measure works 'retroactively': in my book, such a measure is unfair and unwise.
      4) I joined Vimeo in October 2007, when Vimeo was still very young and buggy. Since then I have seen Vimeo grow and improve a bit, thanks to the input of many free users. I have learned a lot about video thanks to a limited number of my favourite contacts. You see, I'm no heavy user, I mostly create homemovies, and in my household, I'd rather spend $60 on something real and substantial rather than 'virtual'.
      Since I have posted my apparently 'subversive' point of view, I've been called 'lamenting, whining, obnoixious' by other users while I have been very careful about using rational arguments and neutral terms. At least the staff has remained respectful and neutral...
      My remark about the unrestricted use of copyrighted music illegally, is really a CONCERN. I live in Europe, where laws are much stricter, and my concern is that somewhere in the future, Vimeo will be made inaccessible until it straightens out this issue.
    • Eugenia Loli-Queru plus 5 months ago
      Ivan is right to say that A LOT of people have used Vimeo to exchange raw original files from cameras in order to check out quality before they buy the camera.

      Also, the very nature of Vimeo is a lot about filmmaking, and people want to download and archive good quality versions of artistic videos they like. Having a "like" database per user is not enough for most of us.

      I personally have a 5 GB database of original files downloaded by videos I like here, and I watch on my HDTV via my PS3 and XBoX360. Downloading now 2 mbps HD or 600 kbps SD videos, will look TERRIBLE on my HDTV.

      You see guys, you don't only downgrade the service for the non-plus users, but you downgrade the experience of PLUS users too by doing this, because they aren't able to download high quality versions anymore.
    • Ben Smithett 5 months ago
      @Eugenia - "the very nature of Vimeo is a lot about filmmaking, and people want to download and archive good quality versions of artistic videos they like."

      I understand that you'd like to download and archive good quality versions of videos that you like, but if the video's creator chooses not to make their source files publically available, that isn't Vimeo's problem.

      If the video's creator does want to offer a high quality source file, they will get a PLUS account.

      If you really desperately want a source file from a FREE user, just ask really nicely :) if they say no, they probably don't want you to have it anyway.
    • Philip Bloom plus 5 months ago
      Ivan,

      I have to agree with many here. It's hard to justify your argument when it is a free service. The annual cost for plus is low and there are loads of people, plus members, who host original files for you to test. Also, all you need to do is go to DVinfo.net or DVXuser and there are always stacks of native files available there. I have never uploaded native files to vimeo, they have always been compressed versions. It's very rare for people to upload their "uncompressed" versions as they are generally huge and mostly unable to be converted by Vimeo.

      Vimeo is a video sharing site, a place to see other people's work, which it does better than anyone else and the free service is terrific. Yes, there are more restrictions now on the free service since plus came in but there is no big plot to make everyone sign up to plus.

      Talking of plus, for pros like me it has become utterly indispensable.

      Best,

      Phil
    • Ivan 5 months ago
      Philip, I guess, as a non-plus user, I've witnessed the quality of vimeo go down, more than a Plus user does: very long conversion times (several hours), uploads being broken off, and from 3pm (Brussels) service somedays totally unavailable. Sometimes, I can't even log in. In this process of degradation of the free account, the change of source file policy was like the final blow. Now that I 'cooled down', as a matter of fact, I don't really care about the source file policy itself. The thing is, I don't think these service failures will improve from the first of August, although the blog post seems at least to imply they will. I may be getting cynical now, but when Dalas writes “Please understand that this is not a devious scheme to force you to upgrade to Plus.”, there 's a little voice in my head that whispers “Yes, that's exactly what you want." So, let's wait and see. Time will tell.
    • Eugenia Loli-Queru plus 5 months ago
      >If the video's creator does want to offer a high >quality source file, they will get a PLUS account.

      You are missing the point completely. The point is this:

      BEFORE: A PLUS user can download other people's original files if they are offered for downloading.

      AFTER: A PLUS user can only download the original files from other PLUS users. Not from any user that wouldn't mind sharing his original files.

      This, this is a RESTRICTION to the PLUS users. What I am telling you here is that there is a META-result from this decision, which DOWNGRADES the service for *PLUS* users. It's not about the other user becoming Plus or not, it's about _existing_ Plus users getting LESS out of Vimeo than they could before.

      So don't give me all that about "it's not Vimeo's fault". Of course it is, they took this decision.
    • Blake Whitman staff 4 months ago
      Please remember Eugenia that you can still download Basic members' source files for a week after they upload them.
    • Ben Smithett 4 months ago
      @Eugenia The point you're missing is that Vimeo has never sold itself as being an online library of source video files, and the majority of users don't see it as one.

      I agree that this online library of source videos you once had access to as a PLUS user will now be a lot smaller.

      However what I am saying is not Vimeo's fault, is the fact that you chose to use their service in a way they didn't intend (i.e., as a large online library of source videos).
    • Shane Guymon 4 months ago
      OH NO! You mean to tell me it actually cost money to run a website like this? (sarcasm)

      I love how people complain about FREE, if you REALLY care then put up some money, if not then go find another website that will offer what you want. If you can't find one, then why don't you go start up your own that will do what you want it to do.
    • Marko Visual 4 months ago
      "I wonder what you'll be adversiting next. Guns? Drugs? The Republican Party? "

      Hey Ivan, I'm a gun owning registered Republican so are you going to call me a right wing cult loving extremist? I think you need to choose your words more carefully on a public forum.
    • Jack Zhang 4 months ago
      I totally agree with Eugenia on this one, It's a restriction to all users and basically strips a right to distribute high-quality files to many people that can't afford Plus. It also prevents Plus people from seeing Basic user's High Quality works and in the end, the community loses.
    • Victor Sant'Anna 4 months ago
      I love Vimeo, thnk you for explaining the decision... I don't use that raw stuff, I don't care about download the original files, but I understand and agree with Ivan in some points: philosophically, I never understand retroactive changes: "Ok, it's free... it will be free... it's not free now... and you have to pay for that old free things you had received!"... sorry, not understamble to me...
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    • Thanks for the info! We heart Vimeo.
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    • Giovanni Antico plus 5 months ago
      It does make a lot of sense to me. Plus accounts are paying for having something plus!

      I feel more comfortable in thinking about Vimeo as a more serious and reliable long term solution for my videos. I won't even consider that you run out of business (and I lose years of uploads/description/tagging/etc...!!!)

      I would love to see on vimeo more evolved features and high quality targeted to people interested in uploading quality content and paying a fair price for the service. I don't expect that much from advertising...
    • Gabriel Shalom plus 5 months ago
      I would just like to second the opinion about the advertising. Advertising is not going to drive online business models indefinitely. Collaborative strategies for micro-payments are key.
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    • Syl Renaud plus 5 months ago
      Im all for a the choice of paying more and getting "more" out of it. Thank You.
    • Blake Whitman staff 5 months ago
      thank you!
    • Paco Rubio plus 5 months ago
      I agree. That is just how the economy works. Besides, there is NO place in the web like Vimeo. I feel I am surrounded by artists, pals, people who have the same creative impulses as me. I am about to become a Plus member and it is mainly to help support this wonderful site.
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    • Sebastian Curi 5 months ago
      vimeo is the post.
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    • Sébastien Périer plus 5 months ago
      that sounds honest, and besides I do store my original files on backups disks, so no really need to overload your servers with my originals :)
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    • Clan McCloud plus 5 months ago
      I can only imagine how hard this decision was for you all to make. Time and time again you've shown that you place the community first. I think this is a small sacrifice users will have to make in order to keep Vimeo alive!

      That being said... I'm a Plus user so I guess it doesn't really effect me at all. :-P
    • Blake Whitman staff 5 months ago
      Thanks man, we appreciate the support. It was a tough decision, but a necessary one.
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    • 4Moorhens2 plus 5 months ago
      25GB of file storage for free on Microsoft SkyDrive - seems like non-Plus users are getting worst deals all the time on Vimeo.
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      Microsoft exists in a different fiscal reality than pretty much every other business on the planet.
    • Joel Dueck 5 months ago
      Microsoft is a multibillion-dollar corporation who can afford to give away massive freebies as loss-leaders to attract customers to proprietary services, and to finance them through the sales of other, massively overpriced products.

      Vimeo just does video sharing.

      SkyDrive and Vimeo are completely different services. You might as well compare Vimeo to the cost of a 16GB flash drive. Just cause something can store files doesn't mean it can do what Vimeo does (share videos online).

      You can't compare the two.
    • Schneider Mike 5 months ago
      You seriously compared Vimeo to MSFT? They probably spend more money on office supplies than Vimeo makes in a year. (No offense Dalas) Get your head in the game.
    • 4Moorhens2 plus 5 months ago
      Free storage of 5GB of MP4 video (that can be shared) using Acrobat.com is also available.

      My point is that deleting up to 500MB of source video after only one week for free users then, for example, only allowing the download of an inferior quality SD MP4 conversion (PLUS users get a superior ~20% higher bit rate conversion of SD files) has got be a slap in the face for free users.

      The imposed restrictions of one HD file upload per week, long conversion times, one group, one channel, the number of source file downloads etc. etc. for free users and now this...

      Allow 2GB of storage, which is the max. over four weeks for free users, before automatically deleting. Better still would be to allow free users to decide which source files they want deleted and allow a limit of 2GB for the duration of their membership. Vimeo is not Microsoft nor Adobe but surely 2GB is possible?
    • Ben Smithett 5 months ago
      Vimeo isn't Mediafire!

      If free users really want to offer their source files without paying a cent, there are plenty of other places to do it.

      If they do want to keep it at Vimeo, they can pay.
    • 4Moorhens2 plus 5 months ago
      "Original file storage of every file for every user is a massive cost, and we have noticed that only a very small set of users actually ever download THEIR OWN files. We want to keep original file storage around as a feature for people who use it, but we can't continue to do it for everybody," dalas verdugo.

      But as a PLUS user I like to download free users' source files and an interesting video may not come to my notice within a week of it being uploaded. What do I do now: ask that user to pay for a PLUS account or request that the file be shared with me by another means?
    • Blake Whitman staff 4 months ago
      @4Moorhens2 - Remember, you can download Basic members' source files within a week after they upload them.
    • 4Moorhens2 plus 4 months ago
      Thanks for the reminder Blake - I would have preferred that the source files be available for download within 4 weeks rather than 1 week; quite often in the past I've discovered a Basic member's video, that I would like to download, several weeks after it was uploaded.

      Any chance of you encoding Basic members' SD files to the same quality as SD Plus encodings? This would be a small, yet valuable concession by Vimeo for those who feel unhappy about the new source file policy.

      All the best, 4M2.
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    • Spencer Tuckerman 5 months ago
      kinda sucks... but totally understandable. i saw this coming
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    • Schneider Mike 5 months ago
      Reasonable. Thanks for the update.
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    • Piotr Bargiel 5 months ago
      Dear Vimeo Staff,

      The change seems to be perfectly understandable. The original files may not be that important for non-professionals and they most probably use up a lot of Vimeo storage space. However, all the comments coming from the disappointed non-Plus Vimeo users are also understandable, aren't they?

      It has always been us who created the community and the unique atmosphere available nowhere else in video-cyberspace. Still, for a few months now we have been witnessing features taken away from us, one after another. Life's tough, nothing comes free. But, what I'm getting at is that maybe, just maybe, you, the Staff, could give us something BACK? Something that isn't so bandwidth costly and doesn't require so much storage space. The possibility of creating more groups? Channels? Better video quality? (if one cannot download originals than maybe that would be a good move?)

      You would still have a lot of savings and non-plus vimeans wouldn't feel second-class members.

      With all the love one can have for (still) the best community site around,
      Piotr
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      Yes, it's totally understandable. We didn't make this decision lightly, but as I said in the post, we realized that it was necessary in order to continue offering the basic service.

      We'll definitely keep your feedback in mind. We appreciate all of the contributions everyone has made to the site, whether they are Plus or Basic account members. You guys are the best!
    • Jayel Aheram plus 5 months ago
      I actually do not understand why Vimeo has limited the number of groups non-Plus users can create. It is almost like Vimeo is saying, "Do not create communities." Most people stick around because of communities.

      Is it that bandwidth-intensive to allow unlimited groups?
    • Eric L Farrell 4 months ago
      I wasn't even aware that people could download the original file. I would have been sending more people to the site.

      Is Vimeo considering files to be converted to 30 frames per second instead of just 24? I've stopped using the service because I don't yet have any software that can encode at 24 fps. I upload files that are 30 frames per sec and 6 frames per sec are cut out of my video, which makes for a horrible choppy viewing experience. I only have windows movie maker and a Roxio program, and they can't do 24.

      Is this issue being addressed? I understand there are plenty others with this same frustration. I'd rather use Vimeo than youtube, but youtube converts in 30 frames per second from what I understand.

      concerning giving something else to users, while taking something away, I think this would be a good option. Am I correct on this?
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    • Joel Dueck 5 months ago
      I wondered a lot about this feature when I first joined Vimeo and didn't see how it could possibly scale for free usage. I actually feel kind of better knowing that the staff have their feet planted in reality and have kept removal of this feature on the table. Those are resources that could be put to much better use.
    • Daniel Hayek staff 5 months ago
      Thanks for your support Joel.
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    • Alex Urrutia plus 5 months ago
      it makes sense.
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    • Param Aggarwal 5 months ago
      Hey, I am a free account holder and I am happy with this decision. Why is everyone cribbing over it so much?

      This way Vimeo won't have to increase the number of ads or reduce some other really important feature to keep it free.

      Vimeo Plus members are 'paying', so ofcourse they cannot be harmed.

      I totally understand this decision and commend it. Other free users like me, please understand the need for doing so...

      Thanks.
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    • eucalyptus plus 5 months ago
      funny how some folks make jabs at vimeo about this.. just back up your own files if it's a problem, rather than place blame. or else just become a plus member.. i spend more on coffee each month than i do for a years' membership here..
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    • Jeremy Powlus plus 5 months ago
      I can live with this (since I'm PLUS anyway)... now how about upping the max single-file upload from 1GB? I know you guys aren't youtube (who now has a 2GB per-file limit) but I hope you can find your way to making this possible.
    • eucalyptus plus 5 months ago
      that would be awesome.
    • dalas verdugo staff 5 months ago
      We'll definitely keep working to address this. It's a technical issue, as files larger than 1 GB crash our conversion system. We're constantly making small improvements to that system.
    • Jeremy Powlus plus 5 months ago
      Excellent, thanks for the update.
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    • reel_aesthete 5 months ago
      so, why don't you offer something in between a free account and viemo plus? the only options that really interest me are having better privacy options and being able to let others download my work when i'm away from 'the home base' and someone asks for a file.
    • Soxiam staff 5 months ago
      hi. we are considering other subscription models. what we offer probably won't be an a la carte model but we might be offering shorter subscription periods at different price points in the future.
    • reel_aesthete 5 months ago
      fine, you guys don't want to make it *too* easy. but the lack of privacy options in very troubling. all members should have those options.
    • Soxiam staff 5 months ago
      we think we have a pretty good privacy options for free members. which privacy feature that are not offered to our free members do you find very troubling?
    • reel_aesthete 5 months ago
      privacy in the age of internet information shouldn't be something that's for sale-- it should be a right. so, my question would be: why don't you find it troubling?
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