Matt Schwarz

Matt Schwarz Staff

Any video over 30fps gets evenly divided in half, which actually shouldn't cause any noticeable difference in playback. So a 50P and 60P video would be 25fps and 30fps respectively.

If you're having issues with playback please contact us: vimeo.com/help/contact

We may eventually support this, but there are no plans at the moment.

SiriNeos

SiriNeos Plus

I would like 50p and 60p support at vimeo.

With my new XA20, I am recording, editing and exporting using '1080x1920 50p'.
i am in a new league because the image quality is awsome!
I said goodbye to the jerky 25p videos!

I would like vimeo supporting the new fps era, the 50p and 60p era!

When will we have it?

Matt Schwarz

Matt Schwarz Staff

Right now anything over 30fps gets evenly divided in half, which actually shouldn't cause any noticeable difference in playback. So a 50P and 60P video would be 25fps and 30fps respectively. If you're having issues with playback please contact us: vimeo.com/help/contact

Not saying we won't eventually support this, but there are no plans at the moment.

SiriNeos

SiriNeos Plus

I am asking for future vimeo requirements.

The video renderized by vimeo is correct, but it is a little jerky because of the 25p limitation.

You can see what I mean downloading the original file and playing back in your computer.

Thanks.

Assem Producties

Assem Producties Plus

+1 Please support 50P!

This year, I record everything in 50p and when putting it on Bluray and DVD in 50i it's perfect but for Vimeo, it's a little jerky in pans and zooms.

BmxReplay.Com

BmxReplay.Com Plus

Matt Schwarz wrote "Right now anything over 30fps gets evenly divided in half, which actually shouldn't cause any noticeable difference in playback"

I've been filming bmx racing at 1080p 50 and 60 fps for the past 3 years and the quality difference over 25 and 30 fps is so great it makes me wonder why its not happening here.

Matt Schwarz

Matt Schwarz Staff

You could try uploading it to Vimeo at 25fps or 30fps that way our system doesn't halve it – it may look better.

James Gallimore

James Gallimore

+1 for 50/60p support, I went Vimeo Pro to upload my portfolio in 50p and the down conversion put the audio out of sync and made it look jumpy. Instead I uploaded via youtube and regret even upgrading - complete waste of money in my opinion.

Allen Carbon

Allen Carbon

If your 25fps films are jerky then you are doing it wrong. No amount of frames would change that.

SiriNeos

SiriNeos Plus

With 50 fps the motion is much more smoother. And with 100fps much more.
25fps is in the limit of a jerky sensation..TV is 50i because is smoother than 25p..

Deeragon Entertainment

Deeragon Entertainment Plus

50p or 60p is suitable for live events or shows, not fiction. And I'm not sure Vimeo is the right place to upload live events videos.

For fiction, learn to shoot progressive...no more jerky sensation if you know how to use your camera. A link for dummies : dvuser.co.uk/content.php?CID=208

Sebastian Rasch

Sebastian Rasch

HFR is better for everything. It’s just so much smoother and no, it does NOT look like a soap opera. I have no idea where people get this from.

Deeragon Entertainment

Deeragon Entertainment Plus

I shoot live events and I do some corporate/highlights videos : HFR is only suitable for music concerts / live performance and sports. 24p or 25p are way nicer for all the other uses.

I'm also asking for HFR support but I won't use it obviously in every video.

spores

spores Plus

+1 for vimeo in 50 and 60 fps.
It's a real advantage, better than hd 1440...or more...
And a first step for a hd 720 50 fps, can be cool.

Mickey de Haas (TDPA)

Mickey de Haas (TDPA)

Another +1 from us for allowing 50/60 fps playback on Vimeo.

We shoot pretty much all our stuff in either 720p at 60fps or 1080p at 60fps. It looks absolutely amazing and it's a real shame no video host allows 30+ frame rates. Vimeo could be the first in this new HFR area and with Directors such as Peter Jackson and James Cameron supporting 48/60 fps frame rates it should get a lot of attention. To avoid excessive bandwidth, it might be an idea to keep it limited to 720p at 60fps for now.

@Deeragon Entertainment,

HFR (48+fps) is an advantage for any shot with a lot of motion in it. Especially with (extreme) sports, it removes motion blurr and makes the motion much more fluent. Panning shots also looks a whole lot better when shot at these higher bitrates.

For a better explanation, check out this info posted by RED:
red.com/learn/red-101/high-frame-rate-video

Finally, we wouldn't mind having to pay an extra fee to allow 60fps playback.

James Gardiner

James Gardiner

I am known as the CineTechGeek, and cover technology in the cinema exhibition world..
HFR and Hobbit is doing very well, with a strong call for HFR upgrades to cinemas. (That is what happens when you sell out for cinemas with HFR Hobbit and upgrading at many as they can..)
So I expect HFR in cinema to explode in the next year or so.

So, not having support on VIMEO, the site known for film makers to show tests.. Well its very short sited. Better get on it guys.

Link: cinetechgeek.com

Konstantin

Konstantin Plus

Yes! please make 50p! It's so important for shape animation!
Youtube support 60p!

Gary Huff

Gary Huff Plus

Would really like to see Vimeo support a full 50/60p option, even if just 720.

Visual Audio Club

Visual Audio Club Plus

I am officially joining in and asking Vimeo to support 60p. Saying there is no noticeable difference between 30p and 60p is completely inaccurate. 60p, while not appropriate for every application, looks much more smooth than 30p. Moreover, footage shot interlaced (60i) can be easily upresed to 60p and it looks indistinguishable in smoothness. Deinterlacing 60i to 30p makes the footage look jerky and terrible. Please support 60p!

Online Video Specialists

Online Video Specialists Plus

The pans are jerky because of the Vimeo compression, render it out to 25 frames per second and watch, there should be very little difference, then upload to Vimeo, you will see what I mean.

Winfried Hoffmann

Winfried Hoffmann

Online Video Specialists, I'm sorry, you are wrong. It totally depends on the shutter angle, the action and the motion blur of the original file. If your shutter angle is right und you have a normal amount of shutter speed for a 25fps conversion, you might not see a lot of difference beteween 50fps and 25fps. But if you are shooting in auto mode or in aperture priority with a short shutter speed or using an Action Cam, where you cannot adjust your shutter speed in an easy way (only by using ND-filters), your videos will look extremely bad at 25fps/30fps and you can not repair it in post. There are filters for AE etc, but they cost a lot of money, are very time consuming and only work for certain types of action.

With the rise of new and free video platforms which have no fps limit, I hope Vimeo will also support higher framerates in the near future. Why support huge 4k video but a maximum of only 25/30 fps. Almost every new camera shoots 50p/60p. But on the other hand, how many people have 4k monitors?

Sean Lawrence

Sean Lawrence Plus

I would really like Vimeo to support 60FPS playback. My slow-mo videos do not look as good when they are dropped to 30FPS. Thank You

Online Video Specialists

Online Video Specialists Plus

Winfried, it seems we are talking about two different things, I am not wrong when talking about compression adding to jerky playback of a video file (irrespective of frame rate). It doesn't matter if the video is uploaded at 25p or 50p, if not enough data has been assigned to the encoded file it will skip.

Upload any slow pan in 24,25 or 30p regardless of camera settings and it will always have a skip during playback in Vimeo. A major issue is inherent in GOP conversion when not enough data is allocated to the converted file, the file will appear to 'skip' at regular intervals. This can only be rectified if more data or a better logarithm is assigned to the encoded video.

Jesper Brodersen

Jesper Brodersen Plus

We need 60 p for making seamless 3d videos for the fortcomming vr revolution. Our videos will be an amasing experience in oculus rift and google cardboard video goggles.
That is the future for cinema. So please keep up with the time and make 60 p available.

Moniker

Moniker Plus

We would also very much appreciate the possibility for 60fps videos for animations we are working on. We will have to use another service instead for our 60fps content.

W A

W A

+1 60fps

Quafe

Quafe Plus

YouTube has 60fps support now...

Tommy Penner

Tommy Penner Staff

Yup, we heard of the news yesterday alongside everyone else. Kudos to them; 60fps is a huge technical undertaking that we're also building out now.

Isaac Bentley

Isaac Bentley Plus

Excellent news! I hope we can re-process the original uploaded file that is stored at Vimeo.

Harvard Heinous

Harvard Heinous Plus

Looking forward to the day my 60fps uploads to Vimeo won't be degraded to 30fps. Please make sure you let us know! (Did I say 1080p? No, I'm not even asking for HD!)

Deeragon Entertainment

Deeragon Entertainment Plus

Vimeo was (I say WAS) the best place to host with a high quality your quality contents.

4K HFR would make sense if Vimeo wants to reach the lead again. Right now, I'm only asking for the same things than Youtube (50p, 60p, 4K) and more space for paid customers.

GP

GP

60fps pls

George Harvey

George Harvey

It's a little disappointing and concerning that none of the staff seem to be enthusiastic about implementing 60fps support. I think I can speak for most uploaders on Vimeo that excellent video quality is paramount, the difference in quality between 30 and 60fps is colossal so I sincerely hope this issue is looked into soon.

KonaKane

KonaKane Plus

As someone who can finally afford quality equipment, and joined Vimeo years ago based on the reputation of being in the lead quality wise, I am disappointed to learn Vimeo is now second rate for quality.

I don't know where to go from here with the new "fancy" video I hope to be producing soon. Has anyone from Vimeo hazarded a prediction for when an upgrade could occur?????

VJ Rybyk

VJ Rybyk Plus

+1 60FPS, you do need to up your game guys!

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