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2 new scripts are up in the files section to be read and considered for Obstructionist #2.
We'd love to see other entries before we pick one in a couple weeks. Check out the files and the group forum threads.
vimeo.com/groups/obstructionist/forums
vimeo.com/groups/286/files
Also... Join the group if you're interested in the first project or this second one.
You can see the films from the first project too. Still hoping someone with do a mashup/remix of all the videos from the first challenge.
vimeo.com/groups/obstructionist
Obstructionist Idea thread we recently started:
vimeo.com/groups/obstructionist/forumthread:331
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I've had an idea ruminating for a couple years. I've always wanted to have multiple directors take a crack at a single short film. The only restriction is that the dialogue is the same in all the films, while settings, action, choice of actor/actress or swapping genders is entirely up to the director.
With several pieces produced from one script, these films could be shown individually an then be edited together into one more experimental piece in which the through action of the script will constantly be maintained by various actor/actresses all playing the same role. I think it could be very interesting.
Let me know if anyone is feeling this idea, and maybe we can start bouncing around short script ideas, or maybe someone reading this has a short film script ready to get this sort of treatment. We could also have one or two stylistic shots required in the film to make the transitions between films in the remix part of the project.
So this is the outline.
1. THE SCRIPT: Pick a 1-3 page script (strip away some of the descriptions to make it easier to have one's own interpretation.)
2. THE COVER: Several directors shoot their version. Hopefully there will be wide differences in setting, actors, and even potentially plot (if we pick a script ambiguous enough)
3. THE REMIX: various editors download their favorite versions and work on creating a new remix of the film. It may have it's own point of view or may be just an alternative retelling of the original story using lots of different actors/setting and version.
Sorry bout not having videos yet. I'm new to the site and will be uploading some HD soon.
- Mutcluck
A similar idea could be to have just a few words like: "No" "Oh" "Ah" "Okay" for example, opening the project up to a larger number of people and interpretations (but probably making a remix a bit more difficult).
“You know what it is, Martha. Don’t play games with me.”
“It has to be the most…the…strangest…”
“Yes, it is quite strange. But we both knew that. That’s the reason we’re here, isn’t it?”
“Well. John is really the reason we’re here. If it hadn’t been for him, none of this would have been possible.”
“Would your mother approve?”
“Of course! She wanted me to have it. She left me precise instructions on how to use it just before she died. She told me that I was lucky.”
“Well, you are. It’s yours. John made it, you know.”
“He did?”
“After a fashion.”
Have you seen The Five Obstructions? could be good for inspiration
Everyone can vote via comment on the one they want to do this with. Then the one with most votes, we use.
It will work best if we get as many people to take on one project rather than a couple. We may want to put together a little video to introduce the concept, once we pick a script. What does everyone think about that as a gameplan?
I always thought of it as the way that playwrights have taken liberties with Shakespeare to reinvent his plays.
Without any descriptions it might feel daunting for some people/directors who don't want to truly reinvent the script and rather just make an interesting short with a couple tweaks. Without description, every director has to completely write a script, which may dissaude them from participating because of the extra effort and mindf**ck involved in the process. I think similar films (descriptions and actions being similar) would be as interesting as the films that were major departures from the original. I want to see both types of films in the process. I'd really love for this idea to work, I think it could be pretty amazing.
I love the idea that the dialogue isn't specific to a character. Maybe presenting the script as a paragraph would give this project many more possibilities, such as splitting it between a dozen characters or presenting it as a crazed monologue. Here's Adam Holwerda's script in this form as an example:
Dear God, Bob, what is it?! You know what it is, Martha. Don’t play games with me. It has to be the most…the…strangest… Yes, it is quite strange. But we both knew that. That’s the reason we’re here, isn’t it? Well. John is really the reason we’re here. If it hadn’t been for him, none of this would have been possible. Would your mother approve? Of course! She wanted me to have it. She left me precise instructions on how to use it just before she died. She told me that I was lucky. Well, you are. It’s yours. John made it, you know. He did? After a fashion.
Dear God Bob what is it you know what it is Martha don’t play games with me it has to be the most the strangest yes it is quite strange but we both knew that that’s the reason we’re here isn’t it well John is really the reason we’re here if it hadn’t been for him none of this would have been possible would your mother approve of course she wanted me to have it she left me precise instructions on how to use it just before she died she told me that I was lucky well you are it’s yours John made it you know he did after a fashion.
Then the director could make lines such as:
John made it you know?
He did?
After a fashion.
John made it you know?
He did... after a fashion.
John made it?
You know he did!
After a fashion.
...wait maybe someone else should make a channel. I'm too unreliable.
Let's set these dates: My thoughts below. What are yours?
Script due. one week?
Voting over. one week? maybe less.
Finished Covers. 3-4 weeks?
Remixes begin/end. 3-4 weeks?
Although remixes can be forever really, but a due date will get a couple flowing which will be good for the overall project and general experiment.
Per Adam's thoughts, maybe each script can be broken into two forms. The full unambigous script with descriptions and character names and the paragraph without punctuation for the most creative types.
While I think the ambiguous script is more creative and will lead to the most variation, I also like the possible remixes available when directors also follow a consistent through line. These films could be edited together seemlessly. It also might be extremely exciting.
What does everyone think?
Oh yeah, Directors should upload 2 versions of their "Covers" one with soundtrack and one without to help the editors in the remix phase.
vimeo.com/obstructionist
-- there's nothing there yet. I'll update it tonight.
Also what's a catchy name for the first project that explaiins it in a word or two. Don't think my title is that eye catching.
And I've created a logo for it. If anyone wants to make another one, feel free. I think the file upload feature of the channel will help a lot with sharing scripts and whatnot.
And once due dates have been decided I guess we can add a calendar thing that let's people know... or something. Anyway... I sleep now.
Yay!
I hate you! You...boney...idiot.
I made a feature request which related to this project specifically. (http://www.vimeo.com/forums/topic:3462)
I think it would increase the interactivity of channels for projects like this.
vimeo.com/390985
I'd like to know what you think.
vimeo.com/obstructionist
On December 1st I'll go through them all and then I'll make them available for all to download from the channel page.
Then we'll hold a vote to see which is the most popular - this will probably also go by email.
So get going. I can't wait to read them.
i'm in.
i actually think it would make an interesting take on it..
December 1st is the official deadline for scripts, and I'd hate to have to extend the deadline due to lack of submissions, because that would make me look really lame!
There hasn't been a stampede of scripts, so if you're holding off just to impress me at the last minute you need to be quick. I'll wait until the end of today and post up the option(s*) before I retire for the evening.
*"Options" assumes there is more than one to choose from. If that is not the case, I will simply post the script and people can get started on their films.
I'd say holding a vote would be a waste of time... so Adam Deeves' script wins! Thankyou Adam for taking pity on me and submitting something.
Adam provided the script in 3 formats, all of which are in the text file. It's up to you which version you use - so long as the words remain intact.
Everyone go download it and start making your films, it's in the files section of the channel.
Also might additionally do a less cohesive piece where I get random people we meet on our travels to deliver a single line of the script. Might end up kind of fun.
Hoping everyone else is busy brainstorming and getting ready for a shoot. I'm really looking forward to the diversity of approaches and eventually the remixes that they'll inspire.
sweet
i wish i had friends that would do this with me...
My view of it is completely different. Hopefully we'll get a lot of really different films!
Anything goes as long as the words remain!
Now, all I need is a camera and some people willing to stand in front of it. Ha! Off I go to find them!
Definitely doing a desert scene tomorrow or the next day. Hopefully my "reworking" of the script will make sense in the final cut, but now I'm working backwards from the ghost town scene since it'll end the film. May have to rethink what I originally planned for since we made a last minute large change to the plot/action at the ghost town.
When's the deadline again? I'd love to hear about other people's progress or even read the reworkings of anyone's scripts with new punctuation, rearranging, and descriptions of actions and locations etc if anyone wants to share.
vimeo.com/441748
vimeo.com/obstructionist/forum:1590
vimeo.com/obstructionist/forumtopic:181
My film is in the can/on tape. It's going to be a little bit confusing though. No exact plot and the way I moved around the dialogue and timeline might be confusing but the ghost town looks great.
Unfortunately I got robbed in Oshakati, Namibia and lost all my HD footage from the film, my HV20, and my shotgun mic. I'm bummed, but the film wasn't ruined. It was mostly additional coverage since my friend Pedro brought his Panasonic AGDVX 100A which looked better.
We used it as the primary camera even though its not HD. I should have the final cut up on the site by January 15th. Hopefully I can't get the editing done in Kigali.
I may also upload a "loose" cut afterward which has extra footage around the edits so it give the editors some flexibility if they want to use any of it in the remix. Also might include some B roll/alternate takes for everyone.
Can't wait to see what other people are up to.
There is a link to the script on the top right, in the 'files' section, next to a big 'TXT' button.