Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

[[ NOTE 1: The following tutorials are for HD source footage. For miniDV/SD footage, check the tutorial here vimeo.com/forums/topic:4038 . Alternatively, use the same tutorials as below, but at bitrate of 2.5 mbps, with the source footage's resolution (e.g. 854x480 for widescreen, 640x480 for NTSC or 768x576 PAL for 4:3 -- it's up to you to know your footage's correct resolution after applying 1.0 aspect ratio). The rest of the tutorial remain the same for both SD and HD footage.

NOTE 2: If you want to export at 1080p instead, use the exact same tutorials as below, but at resolution 1920x1080, and with 12 mbps bitrate (VBR preferably). The rest remain the same as the suggestions below.]]

I spent the whole day today installing NLEs and tools and trying them around in order to write a big guide on how to export with these popular tools for Vimeo's 720p HD service. Using these guides you will be able to achieve de-interlaced 720p footage (no jaggies) at around 5mbps and with a preferred frame rate.

- Sony Vegas Platinum and Pro:
eugenia.queru.com/2007/11/09/exporting-with-vegas-for-vimeo-hd/

- Adobe Premiere Pro, Elements and After Effects
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-with-adobe-premiere-in-720p/

- Apple iMovie, Final Cut Express, Final Cut Studio and Quicktime Pro
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-with-quicktime-in-720p/

- Apple Compressor
Ed McNichol shows us here vimeo.com/2051588 how to encode for Vimeo HD with Apple's Compressor. You can use his suggestion in the form of a "droplet" too, downloaded from here: mcnichol.com/vimeo.htm

- Windows Movie Maker HD (Vista-only)
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-with-windows-movie-maker-hd-in-720p/

- Ulead VideoStudio Plus and MediaStudio Pro
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-with-ulead-in-720p/

- Magix Movie Edit Pro
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-with-magix-movie-edit-pro-in-720p/

- Handbrake v0.9.3+ (multi-platform)
eugenia.queru.com/images/handbrake.png

- KDEnLive (Linux/BSD)
eugenia.queru.com/2009/07/06/exporting-with-kdenlive/

- Freeware tools for Win/OSX/Linux: Avidemux2, ffmpeg, Mediacoder, SUPER, Mencoder
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/08/exporting-in-720p-using-freeware-utilities/

- Pinnacle Studio Plus/Ultimate
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/09/exporting-with-pinnacle-studio-in-720p/

- Avid Liquid
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/10/exporting-with-avid-liquid-in-720p/

- Avid Xpress
eugenia.queru.com/2007/12/13/exporting-with-avid-xpress-in-720p/

- Canopus Edius Neo/Pro
eugenia.queru.com/2008/04/19/exporting-with-canopus-edius-in-720p/

- CyberLink PowerDirector
eugenia.queru.com/2008/05/31/from-cyberlink-powerdirector-to-vimeo-720p-hd/

- AVCHD to h.264 (use this if you don't own any video editor)
eugenia.queru.com/2008/05/04/avchd-transcoding-using-free-tools/

- PiTiVi 0.13.x (Linux)
eugenia.queru.com/images2/pitivi.png

If you are using a different NLE/utility you can send step-by-step screenshots to me to update the post. The exporting panels should show how to export in *either* h.264, WMV or XViD, have de-interlacing, bitrate, frame rate, aspect ratio/size options etc. In other words, the exporting options suggested should accept as source an HDV/HD/AVCHD file and create a valid 1280x720 progressive video file.

nybangali

nybangali

Hello: I am the new owner of a HF100 and am very impressed by the video quality (as played back directly on my HD TV).

I have a question for vimeo.com posters. What is the bare minimum software I need to upload video clips to the vimeo website.

I do not need editing, frame inserts or anything fancy. Just take a MTS file as captured by the camera and convert to upload to Vimeo

I have the lame pixela software that comes with the canon HF100, which allows exporting files as-is to 3 formats (the largest of which is 720:480, MPEG-2 resolution). The resulting video on vimeo.com is not HD quality needless to say.

Do I need to buy additional software to do this simple task? Is there anything free that will do this ?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

There is no freeware application at this time that will read MTS files, because AVCHD is a new format not well understood yet by open source applications. Short of waiting 1-2 more years for open source apps to catch up, I would suggest you buy Vegas Platinum 8.0d ($90), which can read and edit AVCHD, and allows you to export as WMV 720p among other features. I can help you out with Vegas, you can email me directly about it (no need to reply here for it).

UPDATE: There is a free way:
eugenia.queru.com/2008/05/04/avchd-transcoding-using-free-tools/

Head Shot

Head Shot

Eugenia, how do you want me to send you the files?

Head Shot

Head Shot

You're welcome. It was fun

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Thanks to Lasssman, who provided the Avid Liquid shots today.

Head Shot

Head Shot

Do you think there is a sticky feature in the forum, so that this recurring question may be easily answered by viewing it first ? It would be at least as a FAQ post.

dalas verdugo

dalas verdugo Staff

I highly recommend the free and easy iSquint software for compressing video on OSX.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Thanks Dalas, appreciated!

I updated the post above to also include Avid Xpress btw.

dprezzz

dprezzz

Thank you, very helpful.

pda.pl

pda.pl

Eugenia in you little howto you don't tell about the compression that you have to set. setting quicktime and h.264 isn't enough. a) a good compression is between 50% and 65% having 100% compression doesn't make sense. b) you need to check the interacted setting under adobe premiere elements 4 to make a full frame.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I do tell about the compression on quicktime, I don't use the 50% abstract notions, I use directly bitrate. And on Premiere Elements tutorials I export as "progressive", so this will create "full frames". So the tutorials are correct.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Updated the Premiere tutorial, thanks to Vimeo user Myksto. Together we were able to figure out how to create PS3-compatible h.264 MP4 files out of Premiere (by default, they are not). So if you are using Premiere or After Effects, please have a read on the updated tutorial above that shows how you could use a different Multiplexer option to enable PS3 support for your files (the files will remain compatible with all other players too, no worries).

rozroz

rozroz

hey Hugenia..
many thanks for all the work.. really.
i'm an avid xpress user so i'm not sure if you or maybe your friend can answer me:
i shoot 25p
and i open a 1080/50i project (the only option for hdv)
do i also need to apply the filmfluid rendering before exporting?
or shooting at 25p is enough?

tnx!!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Maybe you could create a "custom" project that has true 25.000 progressive frames, instead of using HDV pre-sets?

rozroz

rozroz

but what's the difference if you open progressive footage within an interlaced project?
it would still remain progressive... am i wrong?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Yes, but if you force de-interlacing during export it might screw it up (depends on the algorithms each video editor uses). It's best to turn either both footages interlaced or both progressive and then edit and then export.

Harris

Harris

If my video is 640 x 480, how do I export it as a widescreen video in windows movie maker or adobe premiere?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

You can't. If its 640x480 (e.g. from a digicam), you leave it as 640x480. You can't get the HD mode on Vimeo at that resolution without upsampling which means *losing* resolution, in your case. Leave it as is, or you might have to buy a miniDV camera for that. The Canon ZR800 costs $200.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Alternatively, you can just buy one of the new Kodak digicams that support 720p MPEG4 HD recording.

adam

adam

thanks for the tutorials. I've been wanting to learn how to get my HD on vimeo correctly for a while. I have my first real one encoding right now! :)

DS Operator

DS Operator

Great work, thanks your time exploring so much tools to open the doors for everyone to start publishing in HD.
I'll soon take a few stills on Avid DS HD and Digital-Rapids so you can add them also.
Cheers from Portugal, Carlos Filipe

Rob Victory

Rob Victory

FYI. If you're using Premiere Elements 4 and want an H.264/mpeg-4 file that will play on a PS3. Export according to the directions on Eugenia's tutorial, then remux the file using YAMB.

yamb.unite-video.com/index.html

This utility separates then recombines the video and audio of your file into a PS3 compatible mp4 file. It does not recompress. It's fast. Under 10 minutes to remux 109 minute 720p mov file.

Jose Gibert

Jose Gibert

Thanks again for the tutorials. I am trying Vegas Platinum and rendering as you suggested for the Vimeo Upload.

Steve Holt

Steve Holt

Thank you so much. As a pc user I've never been totally happy with the WMV look on vimeo. I'm using Vegas 5, but somewhere down the line it updated itself to let me render in HD. The wmv in HD looks much better. I'm going to try your tips on going to mp4 to get at the h.265. Thanks again.

Brad Miller

Brad Miller

I used the settings you describe for Vegas Pro 8 and the Canon HV20... But my video still doesn't look as good as some of the other videos I see on the Canon HV20 channel. :(

vimeo.com/457560

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

This is not true. Many of your shots are proper HD. But others seem to either not be HD sources that you inserted in the video, or you inserted them with wrong settings. So your export was as it was supposed to be. But *some* of your clips are simply not up to par with others. You also move the camera way to much and way too fast. This always gives a hard time to encoder, no matter which encoder. You must learn to use only the best pieces of your film, and not to move the camera fast.

Stephan

Stephan

Just tried out StaxRip_1.0.0.2, freeware, very good, not too difficult to use at all. Quality is what you expect from x264, but I'm a sucker for h.264 (notice the dot), so I'm sticking with premiere elements.

osei may

osei may

ok I'm reading all thing and trying to understand. I'm new. I've just made one video and it's not as HD sharp and great as others. I have an hv20. I exported using h264 with 4000kps, 1080x720, and deinterlaced using iMovie to QT to here. I've so many questions - such a rookie.
What could I have done better, for a better vid?

osei may

osei may

...that is better compression or film quality.

T-Rav

T-Rav

Eugenia, I'm using your ffmpeg batch files but I'm getting some errors. I Have an HG10 so I'm using the 24p one and I originally get this:

I:\programs\ffmpeg>ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS" -threads 2 -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "One Test" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1280x720 -r 24000/1001 -b 4096k -bt 4096k -bufsize15000k -maxrate 16000k -g 300 -coder vlc -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "one_720p-24.mp4"
FFmpeg version SVN-r11870, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-liba52 --enable-avisynth --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cpu=i686 --enable-memalign-hack --extra-ldflags=-static
libavutil version: 49.6.0
libavcodec version: 51.50.0
libavformat version: 52.7.0
libavdevice version: 52.0.0
built on Feb 5 2008 23:46:38, gcc: 4.2.3
Input #0, mpegts, from 'T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS':
Duration: 00:00:25.0, start: 0.800300, bitrate: 6819 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1440x1080 [PAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 29.97 tb(r)
Stream #0.1[0x1100]: Audio: liba52, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s
Unknown encoder 'h264'

So I switched the video codec to libx264:

I:\programs\ffmpeg>ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS" -threads 2 -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "One Test" -vcodec libx264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full-subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1280x720 -r 24000/1001 -b 4096k -bt 4096k -bufsize 15000k -maxrate 16000k -g 300 -coder vlc -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "one_720p-24.mp4"
FFmpeg version SVN-r11870, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-liba52 --enable-avisynth --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cpu=i686 --enable-memalign-hack --extra-ldflags=-static
libavutil version: 49.6.0
libavcodec version: 51.50.0
libavformat version: 52.7.0
libavdevice version: 52.0.0
built on Feb 5 2008 23:46:38, gcc: 4.2.3
Input #0, mpegts, from 'T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS':
Duration: 00:00:25.0, start: 0.800300, bitrate: 6819 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1440x1080 [PAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 29.97 tb(r)
Stream #0.1[0x1100]: Audio: liba52, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s
Unknown encoder 'aac'

So I switched the audio to libfaac and then I got this:

I:\programs\ffmpeg>ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS" -threads 2 -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "One Test" -vcodec libx264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full-subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1280x720 -r 24000/1001 -b 4096k -bt 4096k -bufsize 15000k -maxrate 16000k -g 300 -coder vlc -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ab 128k "one_720p-24.mp4"
FFmpeg version SVN-r11870, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-liba52 --enable-avisynth --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cpu=i686 --enable-memalign-hack --extra-ldflags=-static
libavutil version: 49.6.0
libavcodec version: 51.50.0
libavformat version: 52.7.0
libavdevice version: 52.0.0
built on Feb 5 2008 23:46:38, gcc: 4.2.3
Input #0, mpegts, from 'T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS':
Duration: 00:00:25.0, start: 0.800300, bitrate: 6819 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1440x1080 [PAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 29.97 tb(r)
Stream #0.1[0x1100]: Audio: liba52, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s
Output #0, mp4, to 'one_720p-24.mp4':
Stream #0.0: Video: libx264, yuv420p, 1280x720 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, pass 1, 4096 kb/s, 23.98 tb(c)
Stream #0.1: Audio: libfaac, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s
Stream mapping:
Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
[libx264 @ 00985C50]using SAR=1/1
[libx264 @ 00985C50]using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNow!
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
Press [q] to stop encoding
[h264 @ 00985C50]B picture before any references, skipping
[h264 @ 00985C50]decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 00985C50]no frame!
Error while decoding stream #0.0
[h264 @ 00985C50]B picture before any references, skipping
[h264 @ 00985C50]decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 00985C50]no frame!
Error while decoding stream #0.0
[h264 @ 00985C50]B picture before any references, skipping
[h264 @ 00985C50]decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 00985C50]no frame!
Error while decoding stream #0.0
[h264 @ 00985C50]B picture before any references, skipping
[h264 @ 00985C50]decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 00985C50]no frame!
Error while decoding stream #0.0

...*crash!*

Any thoughts? Thanks so much!

T-Rav

T-Rav

Here are the formats I have available:
I:\programs\ffmpeg>ffmpeg -formats
FFmpeg version SVN-r11870, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-liba52 --enable-avisynth --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cpu=i686 --enable-memalign-hack --extra-ldflags=-static
libavutil version: 49.6.0
libavcodec version: 51.50.0
libavformat version: 52.7.0
libavdevice version: 52.0.0
built on Feb 5 2008 23:46:38, gcc: 4.2.3

File formats:
E 3g2 3gp2 format
E 3gp 3gp format
D 4xm 4X Technologies format
D MTV MTV format
DE RoQ Id RoQ format
D aac ADTS AAC
DE ac3 raw ac3
E adts ADTS AAC
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DE alaw pcm A law format
DE amr 3gpp amr file format
D apc CRYO APC format
D ape Monkey's Audio
DE asf asf format
E asf_stream asf format
DE au SUN AU Format
DE avi avi format
E avm2 Flash 9 (AVM2) format
D avs AVISynth
D bethsoftvid Bethesda Softworks 'Daggerfall' VID format
D c93 Interplay C93
E crc crc testing format
D daud D-Cinema audio format
D dsicin Delphine Software International CIN format
D dts raw dts
DE dv DV video format
E dvd MPEG2 PS format (DVD VOB)
D dxa dxa
D ea Electronic Arts Multimedia Format
D ea_cdata Electronic Arts cdata
DE ffm ffm format
D film_cpk Sega FILM/CPK format
DE flac raw flac
D flic FLI/FLC/FLX animation format
DE flv flv format
E framecrc framecrc testing format
DE gif GIF Animation
DE gxf GXF format
DE h261 raw h261
DE h263 raw h263
DE h264 raw H264 video format
D idcin Id CIN format
DE image2 image2 sequence
DE image2pipe piped image2 sequence
D ingenient Ingenient MJPEG
D ipmovie Interplay MVE format
DE libnut nut format
D lmlm4 lmlm4 raw format
DE m4v raw MPEG4 video format
DE matroska Matroska File Format
DE mjpeg MJPEG video
D mm American Laser Games MM format
DE mmf mmf format
E mov mov format
D mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 QuickTime/MPEG4/Motion JPEG 2000 format
E mp2 MPEG audio layer 2
DE mp3 MPEG audio layer 3
E mp4 mp4 format
D mpc musepack
D mpc8 musepack8
DE mpeg MPEG1 System format
E mpeg1video MPEG video
E mpeg2video MPEG2 video
DE mpegts MPEG2 transport stream format
D mpegtsraw MPEG2 raw transport stream format
D mpegvideo MPEG video
E mpjpeg Mime multipart JPEG format
DE mulaw pcm mu law format
D mxf MXF format
D nsv NullSoft Video format
E null null video format
DE nut nut format
D nuv NuppelVideo format
DE ogg Ogg format
E psp psp mp4 format
D psxstr Sony Playstation STR format
D pva pva file and stream format
DE rawvideo raw video format
D redir Redirector format
DE rm rm format
E rtp RTP output format
D rtsp RTSP input format
DE s16be pcm signed 16 bit big endian format
DE s16le pcm signed 16 bit little endian format
DE s8 pcm signed 8 bit format
D sdp SDP
D shn raw shorten
D siff Beam Software SIFF
D smk Smacker Video
D sol Sierra SOL Format
E svcd MPEG2 PS format (VOB)
DE swf Flash format
D thp THP
D tiertexseq Tiertex Limited SEQ format
D tta true-audio
D txd txd format
DE u16be pcm unsigned 16 bit big endian format
DE u16le pcm unsigned 16 bit little endian format
DE u8 pcm unsigned 8 bit format
D vc1 raw vc1
D vc1test VC1 test bitstream format
E vcd MPEG1 System format (VCD)
D vmd Sierra VMD format
E vob MPEG2 PS format (VOB)
DE voc Creative Voice File format
DE wav wav format
D wc3movie Wing Commander III movie format
D wsaud Westwood Studios audio format
D wsvqa Westwood Studios VQA format
D wv WavPack
DE yuv4mpegpipe YUV4MPEG pipe format

Codecs:
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D V D 8bps
D V VMware video
D V D aasc
EA ac3
D A adpcm_4xm
DEA adpcm_adx
D A adpcm_ct
D A adpcm_ea
D A adpcm_ea_r1
D A adpcm_ea_r2
D A adpcm_ea_r3
D A adpcm_ea_xas
D A adpcm_ima_amv
D A adpcm_ima_dk3
D A adpcm_ima_dk4
D A adpcm_ima_ea_eacs
D A adpcm_ima_ea_sead
D A adpcm_ima_qt
D A adpcm_ima_smjpeg
DEA adpcm_ima_wav
D A adpcm_ima_ws
DEA adpcm_ms
D A adpcm_sbpro_2
D A adpcm_sbpro_3
D A adpcm_sbpro_4
DEA adpcm_swf
D A adpcm_thp
D A adpcm_xa
DEA adpcm_yamaha
D A alac
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D A ape
DEV D asv1
DEV D asv2
D A atrac 3
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D V bethsoftvid
DEV bmp
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D V D camtasia
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D V D cinepak
D V D cljr
D A cook
D V D cyuv
D A dca
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D A dsicinaudio
D V D dsicinvideo
DES dvbsub
DES dvdsub
DEV D dvvideo
D V dxa
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DEVSD ffvhuff
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DEV D flashsv
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DEVSD flv
D V D fraps
DEA g726
DEV gif
DEV D h261
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D VSD h263i
EV h263p
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DEVSD huffyuv
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D A imc
D V D indeo2
D V indeo3
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D V D interplayvideo
DEV D jpegls
D V kmvc
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EA libfaac
D A libfaad
DEA libgsm
DEA libgsm_ms
EA libmp3lame
EV libtheora
EA libvorbis
EV libx264
EV libxvid
EV ljpeg
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D A mace6
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DEV D mjpeg
D V D mjpegb
D V D mmvideo
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D A mp3on4
D A mpc sv7
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DEVSDT mpeg2video
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DEVSD msmpeg4v1
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DEV pbm
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DEA pcm_mulaw
DEA pcm_s16be
DEA pcm_s16le
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DEA pcm_s24daud
DEA pcm_s24le
DEA pcm_s32be
DEA pcm_s32le
DEA pcm_s8
DEA pcm_u16be
DEA pcm_u16le
DEA pcm_u24be
DEA pcm_u24le
DEA pcm_u32be
DEA pcm_u32le
DEA pcm_u8
DEA pcm_zork
D V pcx
DEV pgm
DEV pgmyuv
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DEV ppm
D V ptx
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D V D qdraw
D V D qpeg
DEV D qtrle
DEV rawvideo
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D A real_288
DEA roq_dpcm
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DEV D rv10
DEV D rv20
DEV sgi
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D A smackaud
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DEV snow
D A sol_dpcm
DEA sonic
EA sonicls
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D V sunrast
DEV D svq1
D VSD svq3
DEV targa
D V theora
D V D thp
D V D tiertexseqvideo
DEV tiff
D V D truemotion1
D V D truemotion2
D A truespeech
D A tta
D V txd
D V D ultimotion
D V vb
D V vc1
D V D vcr1
D A vmdaudio
D V D vmdvideo
DEA vorbis
D V vp3
D V D vp5
D V D vp6
D V D vp6a
D V D vp6f
D V D vqavideo
D A wavpack
DEA wmav1
DEA wmav2
DEVSD wmv1
DEVSD wmv2
D V wmv3
D V D wnv1
D A ws_snd1
D A xan_dpcm
D V D xan_wc3
D V D xl
D S xsub
DEV D zlib
DEV zmbv

Bitstream filters:
text2movsub remove_extra noise mov2textsub mp3decomp mp3comp mjpegadump imxdump h264_mp4toannexb dump_extra
Supported file protocols:
file: http: pipe: rtp: tcp: udp:
Frame size, frame rate abbreviations:
ntsc pal qntsc qpal sntsc spal film ntsc-film sqcif qcif cif 4cif

Note, the names of encoders and decoders do not always match, so there are
several cases where the above table shows encoder only or decoder only entries
even though both encoding and decoding are supported. For example, the h263
decoder corresponds to the h263 and h263p encoders, for file formats it is even
worse.

T-Rav

T-Rav

This one "works" but the video plays back like it is in slow motion and doesn't line up with the audio at all:

ffmpeg.exe -r 29.97 -s 1440x1080 -y -i "T:\video\20080211\one.M2TS" -deinterlace -threads 2 -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "One Test" -vcodec mpeg4 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1280x720 -r 24000/1001 -b 4096k -bt 4096k -bufsize 15000k -maxrate 16000k -g 300 -coder vlc -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ab 128k "one_720p-24.avi"

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

There is no point including ffmpeg tutorials here. FFmpeg is always in flux and one version will work and another one will be full of bugs. Each user has to find a version that ffmpeg works for the codec they need and stick with it.

rgtaa rgtaa

rgtaa rgtaa

Eugenia!
Since Vimeo uses Flash to recode, do you know what their settings are so I can use SIMPLE to make FLASH version that works on Vimeo. I'm looking to make small meg files and mimic vimeo's flash version.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

You can't. Vimeo will always re-encode, so your best bet is using the current tutorials.

Sisk

Sisk

Thanks for these tutorials but is there any chance you could take a look at mencoder and write a batch script utilizing that? I've found it to be more stable than ffmpeg.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Here you are. This creates a PS3-compatible and xbox360/AppleTV MP4 h.264/AAC file:

mencoder INPUT.m2t -aspect 16:9 -of lavf -lavfopts format=psp -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts
aglobal=1:vglobal=1:coder=0:vcodec=libx264:acodec=libfaac:vbitrate=4500:abitrate=128 -vf scale=1280:720 -ofps 30000/1001 -o OUTPUT.mp4

Use "25" frame rate for 25p PAL, or "24000/1001" for 24p (without quotes), instead of the suggested NTSC 30000/1001 if required. Also modify the input filename, of course.

Sisk

Sisk

You're too kind. Thanks!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I would avoid VirtualDub. While VDub is powerful, the kind of h.264 files it creates are not compatible with devices, because it uses mp3 and AVI instead of AAC and MP4. Unless you export to XVID/mp3/AVI with VDub, I don't recommend it. Plus, it's a kind of an app that could confuse newbies.

Justin Nathanson

Justin Nathanson Plus

good stuff, thank you - but in your FCP tutorial there is not much info about native frame rates. I shot in 720p 59.94 and my HD upload looks jerky.
vimeo.com/768541
Do I have to be 24fps here in Vimeo?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Yes, Vimeo re-encodes in 24p. There is nothing you and I can do about it, except offering the original file for direct download. The tutorial is still correct.

Aleks A.

Aleks A.

This is in reference to "Ulead VideoStudio Plus and MediaStudio Pro". How do you limit the bitrate? I can't locate the option to do so. My 2 minute videos are almost 400mb in size... Thanks!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Well, in that tutorial, there are THREE ways to export. You don't even tell us which one you use. But I suspect you use the easy method, the WMV one. In that method you can't limit it I believe. The next two you can, as you can see from the screenshots.

Gilles Lemagnen

Gilles Lemagnen

Everytime I export from iMovie '08 to 720p Quicktime file, and upload to vimeo, it does not recognize it as a HD video. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to click on "Prepare for Internet streaming" ? I set it to OFF.. and for the other options it looks like the tutorial.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

File a bug report with Vimeo. The tutorial is correct, and as long as you exported as such, it's their job to support the new formats. For now, you might want to export using the second suggested method. I haven't seen others having the same problem btw.

Capt. Terry Nugent (Riptide)

Capt. Terry Nugent (Riptide)

On your Ulead tutorial there was a box to check for de-interlace. I went through everything but on the subwindow shown I have all the other option, but not the de-interlace box? I;m running the trial version of Ulead VideoStudio 11 not sure if thats the reason.

In your opinion whats the best editor for uploading HD from a AVCHD camera to Vimeo and getting the highest quality end result?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

That tutorial for Ulead mentions THREE ways of doing it. You don't even tell us which method you are using! Anyways, what you see there is what you get -- if you have done everything correctly. I don't know why the de-interlacing option is not there if everything else is!

As for AVCHD-to-Vimeo, the best way to do it, is the way we show in this tutorial. That's why I wrote the tutorial. Then, it's up to Vimeo to not use too low bitrate and make the quality worse -- you can't control that part.

pauline

pauline

Hi. I have tried to compress my HV20 videos with iMovie 06' and I think the program has troubles deinterlacing the video sources as I tried several times, with different formats (H264,...) and I always get the bad lines over and over again. I can assure you I checked the "deinterlace video source" and it just keeps giving me headaches as I have several videos all ready to upload but would like them to appear in beautiful HD rather than with these horrible lines.
Does anyone have the same kind of problems with iMovie 06?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

That might be a new bug with Quicktime then. This used to work just fine. Download the freeware "JES Deinterlacer" to deinterlace the video then. Export as "Apple Intermediate Format" via iMovie though in order for JES to de-interlace, not as mpeg4/mov.

Makoto Muroizumi

Makoto Muroizumi

I am using iMovie HD 6 too, and I have had the same problem, but finally, I figured out how to get it encoded nicely without ugly interlace lines.

I made a 1 minute video clip with lots of motions, and encoded it to H.264 at several different settings; Key Frames, Dimensions, etc., always using QuickTime, because I don't have any other software to do it.

The results were that, I could not get it right.
The ugly interlace lines were always there.
Whether you check "deinterlace source video" or not, it does not make any difference.

I was so disappointed.

Then, I tried to "de-interlace" using "JES Deinterlacer": a freeware introduced here by Eugenia, and after many tries, finally I arrived to get my video encoded nicely without ugly interlace lines.

First, export the video from iMovie HD 6 to AIC at 1920 x 1080i, then "de-interlace" it with "JES Deinterlacer", and output again to AIC.
Open it with QuickTime, and convert it to H.264 at 1280 x 780 HD.

This is it, and the result is a nice progressive video clip without ugly interlace lines.

After all, it seems so simple, but it took so many tries to get here, and I am quite tired.
But anyway, I am so glad, and I thank you very much, Eugenia.

I hope that this would help you too, Pauline.

Douglas Figueredo

Douglas Figueredo Plus

You are a GODDESS!!! Thanks for taking the time to do this. May all your videos be beautiful!!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Added one more guide, this time for the Canopus Edius editor.

walt

walt

i have sony vegas 8, and used a magic bullet special effect from sony vegas 5 found in sony's site.

everything was working well until i began rendering. the screen said "Resolution exceeds 1024 x 1024"

?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Probably a problem with your Vegas application. Maybe a too old version.

walt

walt

how can i get a newer version?

walt

walt

wrong, i fixed it.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I didn't say anything wrong. According to the clues you presented and error message, if your Vegas doesn't does over XGA resolution, you upgrade to a newer version that can. If the problem is elsewhere, I guess indeed, it was your error.

walt

walt

sorry, that sounded pretty rude. i was just trying to be playful.

thank you very much for your time.

single

single

Oh this good~
think you for this

Paul Wesson

Paul Wesson

I'm using iMovie '08 to edit my HD video from my Panasonic HDC-SD5 camera. The iMovie Event files are stored as 1920x1080 using the Apple Intermidiate Codec at a bit rate of 72,112.

I don't have a problem as such getting my finished movie onto Vimeo using recommendations found here, but I was wondering how should I export my movie for archival purposes (the best quality possible)?

I don't have a need to save my event clips I just want to save my movie on an external drive that I can later use VisualHub to put it on my AppleTV or some other device or web site.

Anyone have any suggestions?

PS
The file I archive I may want to reload in iMovie at a later time to grab some stuff from it and use it elsewhere.

Thanks
Paul

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

The only lossless codec that iMovie offers is AIC, as you mentioned. Unfortunately, AIC is not supported by open source utilities like ffmpeg/mencoder, which is what VisualHub and all these converters out there are using. So the best way to preserve your videos are to keep all your existing iMovie files and export to AppleTV using iMovie, not Visual Hub. VisualHub does not support AVCHD files either, so the plain .mts files straight out of your camera won't work either. You can export from iMovie to a lossy codec, e.g. mjpeg, which is pretty good, but as I said, it's slightly lossy. Personally, I would just preserve the imovie files on an external big hard drive.

DVCLV

DVCLV

AIC is NOT lossless! It is I-frame only MPEG-2. The I-frame is compressed just as much, using MPEG-2, as are the B and P frames. AIC is heavily compressed!

Even ProRes is not lossless.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I know it's not lossless. But iMovie and even FCE use it as such, as their only way for an intermediate codec. There's no other choice.

DVCLV

DVCLV

"The only lossless codec that iMovie offers is AIC."

AND

"I know it's not lossless."

Keith Kornson

Keith Kornson

Hej Eugenia, i'm exporting using Final Cut compressor .h264 setting. Everything is perfect. But a 5 minute video is too big to upload (650MB). What can a do to get a smaller filesize without getting too much quality loss.

Hope you can help me, thanks!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

The FCP tutorial I link above shows you how to export. You are simply using way too much bitrate. For 5 minutes, it shouldn't be over 185 MBs.

Keith Kornson

Keith Kornson

Thanks for your quick responding! so kind! I will look into it, thanks!

DKNK

DKNK

Wow - this tutorial is very informative - thanks!
I'm way out of my league here and just starting to get into making videos, so I'm going to ask some simple questions...
1. What size should I expect the files to be (using the info in your tutorial) if I'm using a really old non-HD camera (Canon ZR 45 MC) and converting them to .mov files with Adobe Premiere Elements 2?
2. Using Adobe PE 2 I don't see an option to select de-interlace when I convert to .mov. Is it included in another setting so that in selecting that setting de-interlacing is turned on? I don't see it on your screen shots for PE 4 either, so it makes me think it's not a PE 2 vs. PE 4 difference.

Thanks for any help.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I am assuming you are on a PC and not on a Mac. If yes, the kind of MOV files the PC-based Premiere supports are not normal h.264/mpeg4 files, that's why there is no de-interlacing there. You should not be using MOV. You should be using either h.264 in MP4 or WMV, as shown in the tutorial of Premiere above. As for filesizes, for normal 4:3 NTSC video you should be exporting as shown in the tutorials, but at resolution 656x480 instead of 1280x720, 4:3 instead of widescreen (I assume you don't shoot in widescreen), and bitrate at 2000 instead of 4000 or 5000. Everything else is the same.

DKNK

DKNK

Thanks for the quick response.
In Premiere Elements 2, there isn't an option for Adobe Media Encoder, so I chose QuickTime with the h.264 codec. I initially chose "Movie" which creates an avi, but I didn't see options there that looked like h.264. Does it sound like I need to go up to PE4 (or move over to Vegas?)
As for the file size, I was wondering about the size of the file that you would upload to vimeo - I realize it would depend on many things, but just a ballpark per minute. Using the QuickTime option with the h.264 codec and the settings you described I got ~270 MB for a minute video. Is that an average size?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

If you used the h.264 codec for your 4:3 SD video, you should not have a video over 15 MBs per minute (at 2000 kbps). This tells me that you exported with an uncompressed or Sorenson codec, not h.264.

DKNK

DKNK

Thanks for the info on the file sizes - two more questions along that line, just to get a feel for the sizes:
1. How big is the file size of the video that you referenced on another tutorial, I think it was "Around the Home"? (The video is awesome by the way.)
2. How big is too big in terms of having people view them with an embed player?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

That was 40 MBs. That's for a 874x480 file though. If your camera only shoots 4:3 and not widescreen, then your filesizes will be even smaller, because the resolution you would need to export is 656x480 instead, at just 2 mbps. As for the embed player, it does not matter the filesize, because Vimeo re-encodes in a standard bitrate for all videos. What matter is for your video to not be over 4 minutes as the attention span is small on the internet.

DKNK

DKNK

Just want to clarify my last post - In question 2 I mean at what size does it get so big that it takes too long of a time for someone to download and view it.

Claudio Fernandez Sini

Claudio Fernandez Sini

ok, everithing exelent, but for a premiere pro 1.5 non HD??? the best compresion is??????

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I say this many times: if you don't do HD, you need to export in the widescreen playback surface size of your PAL or NTSC video. For example, for widescreen choose 880x480 at 3mbps.

Claudio Fernandez Sini

Claudio Fernandez Sini

thanks anyway, but i don´t now how to change these parameters in yhe premiere

Memphis Grizzlies

Memphis Grizzlies Plus

Eugenia, I was looking up info to help our broadcast dept with the specs for Avid (not sure if they use Xpress or Liquid), but I found that your article has been archived.

Can you send me the link please?

As you can see in this video (vimeo.com/1091437) the color/contrast is bad even though they're using a lot of expensive equipment :)

Any help or advice from anyone would be appreciated.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I don't use Avid, so I don't know. But I doubt that the problem is the exporting tutorial. I think you might have messed the prefs of the avid hardware at work... And I have not even seen such a machine in my life, so I can't offer a fix.

Haley Font

Haley Font

I am on Windows Vista and need to get a new Video Editing program. I would really like to export my edited video back out to h.264 format - as that's how it comes in from my new Sanyo HD1000 camera. I also understand that I should be able to write that format to a normal DVD disc that will play on a Blueray player as well as upload the files to Vimeo.

Which of the consumer level video editing software packages to you consider the best - or which would you buy?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I am not sure you will be able to get the EXACT Sanyo's format, but you can get Premiere Elements 4 that can export in h.264. If you are only interested in exporting and not editing, you can try the freeware SUPER as mentioned above. As for BD-on-a-DVD disk, read my tutorial on my blog, I have a free way to do this.

Aziz Kocanaogullari

Aziz Kocanaogullari Plus

Hey Eugenia!

Thanks for these great tutorials, for some reason I never got a chance to check them out before because I was using final cut pro express's log and transfer feature. though the transfer times are out of control.

so, I installed windows and vegas pro 8 on my mac and I'm trying to use vegas pro. the thing is, I don't want to deal with figuring out the program. so I was wondering, would I lose quality if I opened the .mts files with vegas pro 8, export them using the tutorial you have and then edit the .mp4 files in after effects or premier?

thanks in advance!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

To export correctly with Vegas you need to have the right project properties first. Just use my exporting tutorial about Vegas linked above, it includes all the info you need.

Aziz Kocanaogullari

Aziz Kocanaogullari Plus

oh I guess I couldn't tell it clearly, sorry about that. I followed your tutorial and exported a great .mp4 file. it works fine but what I was wondering is if I did this to the raw footage, import those exported .mp4 files into after effects and edit that. then, I'll have to export the final edited version again.

will this reserve the quality, or will it get worse because of exporting it 2 times (1 from sony vegas .mts -> .mp4 and then once more from after effects .mp4 -> .mov or avi) ?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

No, don't do that, you will lose quality. You need to export in a lossless format to re-import to After Effects. You can try Cineform, or you can install the freeware lossless codec Lagarith (if both AE and Vegas are on a PC).

Rhekluse

Rhekluse

Very helpful stuff ...i luv you ;)

Michael Cleveland

Michael Cleveland

Hello Eugenia wondering if you could help me with a problem I've been having uploading from Nero 8 software. I have been converting to mpeg 4 avc 1280x720 and had the videos fail on vimeo. The first video I posted was done the same way and it was fine. Don't know what to make of this as I am very new to video editing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Vimeo uses ffmpeg to decode the videos people upload and then re-encode in Flash with another tool. Problem is, FFmpeg does not support AVCHD. Therefore, you need to export in plain h.264/AAC MP4 720p mode at 5 Mbps, rather than true AVCHD interlaced format that's not supported. I don't have Nero installed, so I can't help you with the specifics.

Michael Cleveland

Michael Cleveland

Thank you very much for the reply. The information was very helpful. The only thing troubling me was I had a successful video before. It was smaller but I don't know what difference that would make.

MGE

MGE

Eugenia, euxaristw polu for your very helpful guides/tips... euxaristw!

kevob

kevob

Hi Eugenia great thread and great work!
im doing a few 10 minute videos in vegas 8 pro and rendering uncompressed then using TMPGEnc4 for compression as ive found that i get slightly better quality for the same file size and settings, codec wise ive tried wmv but found the audio is often out of sync when i upload to vimeo but im still experimenting with mp4 and finding good results from divx
the problem is my file sizes are huge to get decent quality, my original file size is roughly 2gb or slightly bigger and after compression im struggling to get them lower than 350mb without a huge loss in quality. does this sound about right or do you think i could somehow get them smaller?
thanks

kev

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Well, you are not telling me what kind of file that 2 GB file is. If I assume that it's HDV m2t (and not full HD AVCHD .mts), then 2 GBs means that it's about 10 minutes of video, no? If yes, then you can export in MP4 as in my Vegas tutorial, at 720p, at about 5 mbps, and it will fit fine at around 350 or 400 MBs of size.

Nicolas Chausson

Nicolas Chausson

Hello, and thank you for these tips. I followed the way of encoding described on the link you gave me for Adobe Premiere (QuickTime .mov, H264), but, even though I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack, I don't have the AAC Codec for the encodage, hence, I put the default one. The obtained file weighs 1.2Gb for 2 minutes, and 1.7Gb for 7 minutes, and it is absurd to upload such a big file on vimeo considering it's limited to 500Mb/week. For example, I noticed on the video 'Me and Mom', that lasts about 2 or 3 minutes, that the original downloadable file is a quicktime high definition movie although it's only 300Mb. wtf? What should I do so that the final file, using the previously described settings, be alot lighter (about 300Mb) like most of the videos on Vimeo. Is it an issue not to be able to encode in AAC?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Not so much, but the part you missed was about the h.264 codec. I don't think that you used the h.264 codec that's why the file was so big.

Nicolas Chausson

Nicolas Chausson

Yet so far ... I used the H264 with 5000 bitrate for video.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Hard to believe, but if that's the case, then you stumbled on a bug.

Nicolas Chausson

Nicolas Chausson

Can I retry later and send you the video by the way of a sharing website ? Like that, you gonna see the details of the encodage with Mediainfo software or other .. ?

Jon Moore

Jon Moore

Can someone explain to a noob like me what the various recording modes on the HF10 are and the differances?? I am using the highest quality, but does this really have any advantage?

Sorry for the dumbness, but until 3 days ago I was a 'still' only man!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Please make a post on the "cameras" forum about this. This thread is only about final exporting, not recording.

Dick Valdez

Dick Valdez

Ok so I just got a Panasonic TZ5, and I don't have any video editing software. I made a 5 minute clip (in the HD mode\30fps) that came out of the camera in mov format and is 600mb!! So I suppose I need to edit\compress this down just so I can get it posted here.

Eugenia, your tutorials are great! Very much appreciated! Can you give me your honest opinion on which editing software to go for (windows ver)? I just need something basic, to maybe edit out some footage, overlay some music, and add some credits\text. Nothing to fancy really. Oh, and get it posted on here hopefully!

Thanks so much in advance!!
Rich

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

If you are using Windows Vista non-Basic edition, just use Windows Movie Maker. If you don't, buy Vegas Platinum 9 that comes out in a few weeks (don't buy the basic version of Vegas, as it doesn't support HD).

Now, regarding getting your video on Vimeo. This camera records in mjpeg, which is extremely high-bitrate. You need to download the freeware SUPER encoding utility softpedia.com/progDownload/SUPER-Download-23696.html , drop your clips in there and export like this: eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/super-720p.png

Dick Valdez

Dick Valdez

Yeah, I'm in XP still with no plans to go to Vista. So is that "Vegas Movie Studio Platinum" or I see "Vegas Pro"?
What about the Avid Liquid? I've read some good things about that?

I'm going to give that Super a try tomorrow and see if it can get that thing smashed down a bit.

And thanks so much for replying!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Vegas Platinum 9 that comes out in August is all you need.

Dick Valdez

Dick Valdez

Ok great! I'll look for it then!

I used Super to compress my video and it took it from 600mb to 100mg! Very cool.....too bad I can't get it uploaded to save my life. Farthest it's gotten is 7% and just hangs.....mostly only 1%!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Upgrade your Flash 9 version, and it should upload. Make a new thread if you still have probs, this thread is only for exporting.

BTW, when you reply to a specific comment on vimeo, please always use "Reply to this comment" and not "Add a new comment", because the "add a new comment" is not a direct reply, and doesn't send an email to the person you replied to inform him/her that you actually replied.

Dick Valdez

Dick Valdez

Ok great Eugenia! Thanks for the great work here and for the helpful hand! I did try reinstalling Flash 9 and still no good. I'll start a new thread or do some searching to see what else I can find! Thanks again!

Mario Rodriguez

Mario Rodriguez

I apreciate your helpful advice.
Do you Know a good mp4 viewer diferent than quicktime?

Cath Humes

Cath Humes

Hi Eugenia, thanks very much for this tutorial.

My HF100 records in variable bit rate so I want to try your suggestion "full 1080p if desired too (just change the resolution to 1920×1080 and the bitrate to about 12mbps)". Taking 12mbps to mean 12288 kbps (or thereabouts, depending on whether 1000 kb/mb is used or 1024) should I be looking for this number in SUPER Video Bitrate? There are a range of numbers, but nothing that looks like this.

Also, could you advise how I can remove the fadein/fadeout effect from the template?

Many thanks!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I assume that you are using my "AVCHD with freeware utilities" method because SUPER alone does not support AVCHD footage properly. If yes, you have to use about 9 mbps. SUPER does not support more than 9 I am afraid. Buy a real video editor, like the upcoming Vegas Platinum 9, to use more bitrate. Really, for Vimeo you don't need more than 720p and 5mbps though.

Cath Humes

Cath Humes

Hi Eugenia, yes I was referring to that tutorial. Thanks for that ifo - I'll stick to 1280x720 and 5mbps for Vimeo.

Again, any idea of how to remove the fade-in/fade-out in the Avisynth script?

Many thanks.

Charis Brown

Charis Brown

Hi Eugenia, I am using the standard Dell Webcam Center that came with my laptop. I don't know how to send you the pictures you described in your original post, and none of my videos are working, and all anyone tells me is to refer to the compression guidelines, which I did before I ever asked anything! Grr. Would you mind telling me how to send you whatever I need to in order to get help?
Thanks,
Charis

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I am afraid no one can help you, because no one knows what codec your webcam saves as. You can try downloading the SUPER utility as referenced on the thread linked on the first sentence of this thread, but if that doesn't work either, buy yourself a proper camera.

AmilaLakmal

AmilaLakmal

Thanks Eugenia Loli, Its really helped me to put my videos in hd format but there's one issue with capacity & clips duration ,, If you can tell me how to I get 20 min video ? under 100mb or less in HD 1280x720 resolution
*** And I think its important to tell you that , the video I uploaded to site was (100mb for 2,39 min HD 1280 x720)
then after the upload I've downloaded that video form the vimeo site to see the capacity !!! Oh jesus its only 33.59md check out heres the link
vimeo.com/1390569 ,
So I think we can get encore 300% less capacity to the same quality !!! it would be a great help if you can help me with this !!!! Thanks Again !!!!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Use less bitrate to fit 20 minutes of video in HD. Possibly use 3 mbps instead of 5 mbps of bitrate.

Mekeni

Mekeni

I'm green as it can get when it comes to HD video. I'm still feeling (more like fumbling) my way with the HF10. I have a few questions to ask:
1) If I shoot in 24p mode and upload it to Vimeo, Does the 24p conversion Vimeo does automatically removes the pulldown (i.e. reverse telecine)?
2) What about in 60i or 30p mode? Am I really watching a true 24p converted video in Vimeo?
3) If I shoot in 24p mode and use FCE's de-interlacer filter, will it be close enough to a true 24p framerate.
4) What about using JES de-interlacer? Does it remove the pull down?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

1. No. You have to remove pulldown and save as true 24p for Vimeo to get it as 24p. Removing pulldown is not an easy thing to do so most apps don't do that, let alone online services.
2. Vimeo re-encodes in 24p, but it re-encodes in an ugly way, by dropping frames. That's why when there's panning with a 30p/60i, it's never smooth on vimeo.
3. No. De-interlacing is not pulldown removal. And FCE does not support true 24p editing, you need FCP or AE for that on a Mac.
4. Yes, there's a way to remove pulldown with JES, but you have to feed it a clean PF24 stream. if you first edit wiht FCE and then export and then try to do JES, it won't do it correctly because FCE will have that messed up by that time.

Mekeni

Mekeni

Thank you very much for your response Eugenia! Now I know what to get next.

Mekeni

Mekeni

Anybody tried Magic Bullet?

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Please create another thread for these questions. This thread has so many comments that it's very difficult to load, so adding off topic questions only makes things more difficult for us in dial-up (i am on vacations so i don't have high speed atm).

Mekeni

Mekeni

Sorry to bring Magic Bullet up...didn't realized that was off-topic. I admire your dedication in responding to these questions even while in vacation=) Your expertise is much appreciated.

Electric Blue Media

Electric Blue Media Plus

I just uploaded this 292 MB video shot in 1080i NTSC, edited in FCP, exported exactly per Vimeo's Quicktime Conversion settings recommendation with deinterlacing enabled. vimeo.com/1461241

It takes forever to download. I did use the 30 setting and 3000 bitrate.

I noticed you advise using 25 fps and a PAL setting for export. Could I trouble you to explain why it is better to use non-native settings?

The video takes forever to download and streams jerkingly.....should I reduce the bitrate to get a smaller file size and if so, what ballpark setting would you advise? My other videos were shorter and started out around 100-150 MB's anyway, so they stream better.

Oh, and thanks for all your considerable work writing all those tutorials and all the extensive free support you offer here in this thread. You're helping an awful lot of people and for that "you're a daisy"! :)

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I never advised to export in PAL/25fps for NTSC videos. You always use the native frame rate. As for the jerkiness and speed it has nothing to do with the original file, because vimeo re-encodes. Even if you re-encode and re-upload, it won't make a difference for the vimeo version which is always standard.

realbirthtv.com

realbirthtv.com

Hi, thank you for your help! I am uploading videos following your instructions and still I am not very happy about the quality. I use FCP and quicktime. DV Pal 16:9 (anamorphic) and ...somehow I am still not getting "that" quality...can you help? check em out here please vimeo.com/1437119
thanks, erik

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

This is normal. You need 720p HD to get the HD resolution on vimeo.

Zach Bishop

Zach Bishop

I am using ULEAD Video Studio 11 Plus (with the latest plug-in for AVCHD) and am trying to create files to upload to Vimeo from an AVCHD source (Sony HDR-SR1 camera). I followed your directions precisely, and while the AVCHD source files look great, the converted WMV files turn out to be 208 x 160 and 20 fps. Any thoughts on what might I might be missing?

Thanks very much.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

I have heard of this, it's a ulead bug. You ask for one thing and it delivers you another. Nothing you can do but to use another way to export, or use a more serious app.

Zach Bishop

Zach Bishop

Thanks for confirming - I'll check out Vegas.

Zach Bishop

Zach Bishop

I am trying to follow Eugenia's guide for encoding for Vimeo from Vegas Platinum and do not see the Flie: Render As option. I have Windows Media Player 11. Is this in another place in WMP 11?

Thank you

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

Erm, please be more careful. The option is on Vegas, not on WMP.

Zach Bishop

Zach Bishop

Ignore my previous comment - I realized that you meant for the rendering to occur in Vegas, not Windows Media Player and it worked great. Thanks

Ryan Mackfall

Ryan Mackfall PRO

eugenia, can you just have a look at my most recent videos. I'm doing what you are saying but it just doesnt look full hd?! I've got an xha1. If you could drop me a message that would be great. Just want to be getting that breathtaking depth that so many other people seem to be getting!

AtotheM

AtotheM

On the Mac side, both VoltaicHD and several of the nightly releases of VLC can read and convert/transcode the MTS files created by the Canon HF10 and HF100 cameras.

I didn't see this info above, so figured someone might be able to use it.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

VLC uses ffmpeg. Last I checked, ffmpeg has major issues with AVCHD decoding, it doubles the frame rate and makes things really bad. Unless this problem is fixed in ffmpeg recently and VLC using a recent ffmpeg, I wouldn't trust it.

AtotheM

AtotheM

If you use one of the nightly builds, not the release, it does a pretty darn good decent job. The image isn't what I'd call superb, but it has worked in a few needfull cases when the Log & Transfer into FCE4 would error out. I was able to get the clip I needed transcoded with VLC.

It sure seems like something MPEG Streamclip should be able to do someday, too, but development on that is almost done from what I can see. Oh, and it'd be nice to see a quality program like Handbrake handle m2t and mts files.

Jordan Pauly

Jordan Pauly

Thanks a bunch... this was a lot of help!

Icebird

Icebird

Thank you so much for this posting! I also have a Canon HF100 and managed to find SUPER on my own, but I wasn't sure which settings were best. Now my results are much better. Thanks!!!

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

SUPER does not support AVCHD correctly. It shows double frames -- a bug found on both ffmpeg and mencoder, the two libraries at the heart of SUPER. I highly suggest you use either an editor, or the last entry on the first post of this thread, which deals with your case and shows you how to properly decode it in order for SUPER to export it properly.

Icebird

Icebird

Actually, I had to modify the settings in your screenshot just slightly to avoid that problem and the resulting file had no problems at all. The differences:

* Clicked on Video Scale Size More and used the preset entry for 1280:720
* This auto-selected Aspect 16:9 which is fine
* Checked the DirectShow Decode box

Now I have "ffdshow" installed and DirectShow may have made use of that, so maybe that avoided the bug you're referring to?

Oh and by the way, the video software that came with my HF100 was unstable and I never got it working right, but with SUPER I can just pull the MTS files straight off my camera and convert them to whatever!

Smith M.

Smith M.

Hi everyone i got just one Question ,
my Videos have usally a Resolution of 1280x1024;
And now my Question will they be Converted to HD if i upload them ?

The file specifications etc. are Complettly Identical with yours , just the Resolution is an other.
And will it work ? or do i really need an 16:9 based Resolution

Regards Smith M.

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

You need a 16:9 or thinner resolution. 4:3 won't work.

SpeedskaterHD

SpeedskaterHD

HI Eugenia, let me get this straight. My HD camera (Sanyo HD700) records in 1280x720 @ 30fps. What I get from the comments above is, to post this to Vimeo, and to get it smooth, it should be converted to 24p or 25p?

Now, my videos are shaky: vimeo.com/1716210

But, wouldn't that mean that this screenshot is wrong:
eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/super-720p.png (because 29.9 is selected)

Eugenia Loli

Eugenia Loli Plus

First of all, stop deleting or making videos private when you actually link them for us to see.

Second, no, the screenshot is not wrong, it shows how to properly encode a 30p or 60i video. Vimeo indeed requires a maximum of 24p fps to look smooth in HD, but that's their problem, and it's a problem that will be lifted in the future. You can encode both ways: 29.97 for your personal needs, and 23.976 for 24p for Vimeo, and then upload both versions, and see which one you like best when played back on Vimeo.

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