• on the hill films 8 months ago
    A few of my videos were added to a channel moderated by someone else. There is apparently no method to remove them from that channel, nor opt out so my videos cannot be added to other people's channels.

    I uploaded the videos to Vimeo "because everyone shouldn’t see everything."

    As a work-around, I have made my videos password-protected, but that makes sharing the videos with friends and family via links that much more difficult.
  • Javed Ahmed 8 months ago
    You upload your videos publicly for publicity, you have the option to keep it private, or you can send a message to the Channel moderator asking them to remove your video. I'm guessing you were referring to my baby channel, I have removed your videos from the channel, and sorry for causing any offence.
  • on the hill films 8 months ago
    Javed, this was not directed towards you. I sent you a personal message via Vimeo.
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  • ray 3 months ago
    I also think its bad that I have no control on my video, in what channel it is added. Say: there is a 'surrounding' a channel I do not like or support but they ad my video to it, I can' t turn that back.

    It's strange: other broadcasters present/transmit your show, and if they are succesfull your own channel will have no succes. Building or starting your own channel with your own videos is more difficult, there is no exclusive protection.

    But starting a channel showing work from others, without their permission, is succesfull.

    You can make your movie private but then presenting it on your own channel is not userfriendly.

    Why not like Flickr? YOU can post your video in a channel YOU like. And you can remove it, you are in control , it is your video (image).

    For me this is an important privacy/control thing.
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  • Aziz K. 3 months ago
    I don't necessarily agree with what has been said in this thread. I understand "somewhat" that you might want to keep your videos to yourself and share it only with the people you'd like and that's why there's the option of "privacy".

    I think channels are a great way for "your video" to be promoted. It reaches a lot of different people who might not have come across your video but they see it because they're subscribed to that channel.

    Vimeo has to be one of the greatest online communities I've seen so far with the quality of content, members, comments and what not. Usually the channels here are not supportive of specific ideologies or strong opinions. They are here to share common interests. @ray, you said that your stuff could be added to a channel that you don't like or support. I don't exactly understand what you mean.

    Worst comes to worst, you message one of the moderators of the group you don't want to be involved and they'll take your stuff out. People are very friendly here, don't hesitate on that. Though I still don't see why you wouldn't want to be involved in a channel.

    One last point about the Flickr idea: then there would be no way to keep a clean and content oriented channel. People would just submit their videos to popular channels to get more views even though they're not content related. It's unlikely for that to happen in Vimeo with the user community it has right now, but who knows. That might happen. And in case you didn't realize, the Flickr groups are out of control. There are thousands of the same group. You get lost.

    Phew, this was a long post. Just wanted to share what I thought.
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  • ray 3 months ago
    Great to hear your reaction, no, its not to keep videos private or for myself, its about control of video's I make and the channels they are on. Now, there is no option to get out, if you do not like or want (Hey! I want control) someone to take your video in his channel, no way to stop that.

    As creator and owner, I want to 'broadcast ' my own video. I want control, not only to set something private or public , but also the possibility to get my video out a channel if I want so. And to set or leave my video in one channel that I like.


    Read my message above again, it is very clear. The part about broadcasting, look at your TV set at home. Nothing to do with ' how great Vimeo is etc'.

    Even if I set my settings to private -after it is added in a channel by someone-, the video on my homepage is private, but on the channel it is not!
    So my video is visible for anyone. Except for the people that visit my page.

    That is weird.

    If the community is 'friendly' and active there is no problem in creating channels like Flickr is doing, you have content related channels on Flickr too, like bridges or houses etc. Same as Vimeo, but you are in control with your own media.

    Flickr is big, if Vimeo was big like that you see thousands of groups too. To start a group here or on Flickr is the same, it is easy.

  • Aziz K. 3 months ago
    I think there's either a mistake or you didn't set your preferences right because if a video is private, people will still see the password screen even if it's added to a channel.
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  • ray 3 months ago
    I don't like to say it to you, but you need to read with more precision. Again.

    If you set your setting to 'private' AFTER it is added to a channel by someone, the video on the homepage is locked but the video remains visible on the channel.
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  • Soxiam staff 3 months ago
    thanks for your thoughts guy. i find it very interesting.

    i want to clarify few things in case they're not clear. *you* can always remove your own videos from the channels your videos have been added to. you have that control now. you go to those channels and just click on the red X to remove your videos. when we roll out the groups feature, you will have this same feature.

    as far as the privacy is concerned, the current rule is this: once a private video has been added to a channel, anyone who has access to that channel can view that video -- meaning that channel privacy overrides video clip privacy settings. normally this is pretty straight forward because only you can add your own private videos to channels you moderate. but ray brings up an interesting point about what should happen to the video if it was made private after it's already been added to a channel. i think there's some room for improvements there and we will try to make few changes.

    lastly i want to point out that this suggestion regarding the video clip owner's control over their own clips and whether they should be able to disallow them from being added to other people's collections has come up often enough in the past that we're considering adding this feature to the settings page. we have someone looking into this right now.

    thanks for your thoughts.
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  • ray 3 months ago
    Thanks for your assistance Soxiam, for me it is not clear however.

    I looked for the red X, could not find it to remove my video from a channel, a channel someone else put my video in.

    Not under "Your Videos/Channels" , not on the channel homepage (HD Wildlife) , not next to my video in that channel.
    Please be more precise to help me out. A red X next to the submenu Channels/Albums-> Your Videos would be the best place.

    BTW: I have nothing against the channel /HD Wildlife/ or my addition in that channel, it is just the control I want, I did not placed my video there.

    Control over my own video's gives me the freedom to add video to Vimeo.
  • Soxiam staff 3 months ago
    sure enough you're right. i just checked out your video "water dance" on wildlife channel. as the creator of the video, you *should* have a red X to the right of the title which you can click on to remove it from the channel but it was not there. this is a bug. i am submitting a ticket for it right now.
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  • ray 3 months ago
    What is strange in the Vimeo concept today, is that you can become a member without ever updating or creating a video, you can start a channel, 'collecting' say adding video's from Vimeo creators and you can have instant success. Without their permission. You can have a channel with high visits.

    But if a creator wants his video out that channel he needs to find his own video on that channel, browsing tens or hundreds of pages, and hopefully he will find his video and a red X (look above, sometime it is not there) to remove his video from that channel.

    The power -presenting- is on the channel side, the guy who never updated or created a video himself.
    The creator himself needs to work hard to get the right to take his video out the channel.

    I think people do not realize that.

    btw:I even wrote a message to the moderator from that channel to ask him to remove my video. But until now, no response and the video is still there.
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