Community Forums / Vimeo Projects / Vimeo vs You Tube, The question

Hehe nice.

I like both sites. Youtube gives more exposure and has some features this site is lacking while this site has other advantages like better video quality, groups and other things.

I use to upload to youtube. This site rocks for HD users, youtub added their version of HQ but it is the same size. I figure this site will surpass the tube in good time, it is better on many things. The only thing vimeo is lacking is users.

youtube seems like a kids site to me, what do you guys think?

I prefer vimeo (not only for videoquality reasons) - youtube is kind of a playground for people who grabbed videoclips somewhere - a lot of crap lying around there.
vimeo seems to adress to a more creative type of people... lack of users - no deal in my opinion - you really want to have all those youtube-spammers here? vimeo is quality, not quantity - which really matters i think

Agree with you all, especially Phil, I go to youtube if there's a random clip I know I want to see, & I come to vimeo for interesting, quality videos & inspiration. The comments here are constructive, on youtube they're pointless, childish digs, often unrelated to the video at all.

1 I HATE seeing my videos butchered by the youtube encoder

2 Youtube users are some serious morons on average

3 Vimeo has a much more artistic mature community

Sure youtube may have more eyeballs but they are eyeballs I could do without. If you want to see the latest and greatest video of some guy getting hit in the balls or something youtube is your kind of place.

The only thing You Tube has over Vimeo is a larger audience. I agree with others that You Tube's quality stinks, and that many videos are extremely amatuerish. Ihope Vimeo stays where it is at (quality videos and image), vs quantity. In short, I think that You Tube is a fad for people that don't appreciate artictic work.

youtube is where id go for the quick viral videos of the moment. or maybe to find some obscure video that was taken before the internet was invented. or something you missed on tv. vimeo is my home for original creative videos. i have a youtube account, but it just cant measure up to the quality of vimeo.

I think YouTube has a lot of content, but Vimeo is definitely for those who care about quality, like I do. The only thing I see wrong with Vimeo is that it limits the size of your upload. That's fine but I wish they would let your unused MBs rollover to the next week.

Vimeo has a certain richness to it.
maybe the clean slick interface that I love
or the creative minds and talent availible for inspiration
Or maybe its the lack of mindless 14 year olds screaming "I LOVE HANNAH MONTANA", Ya thats it ;)

I love both. Vimeo is a joy to hang out on and see great films and see what filmmakers like. Seeing what is big on YouTube means something completely different but just as fascinating. I like the out-there comments on YouTube - random, strange, hilarious and I like the comments on Vimeo - thoughtful, appreciative, supportive. (but I hang out on Vimeo a lot more than YouTube...) Caroline

Youtube for the audience, Vimeo for the possebilities

Apples and Oranges....two different concepts in video sharing....quality and focus vs. massive viewing potential and huge breadth of content...I use both, linking one to the other..

Vimeo has lack of user control like Deleting a video or changing the status of a video from public to private. Doubt I would post much here.

Well ghezz... thanks for that great explanation. If they are there, they shore ain't easy to find and no where in the Help or support files.

I'm logged in and do not see that. If you are talking about the MY VIDEO page, all I see is Search these videos. Why they put the delete on an 'Edit this page'. That makes no sense. Who designed this!!! Must have been a Mac user. :)

There should be a Delete BUTTON on the MY HOME PAGE / MY STUFF right beside each video.

Ok, how do I make suggestions? That is a really stupid place to put the option to delete a video. That would suggest to me that I want to "EDIT THE PAGE" and have nothing to do with deleting a file!

In fact, that option has very little to do with 'editing the page'. What you are doing is editing the info attached to the video and nothing more so that option should be re-named.

Hi everyone! Vimeo gives quality, has ethics and you get to have the open-source's quality(of having people that know and are willing to share their knowledge). By the way I want to thank Eugenia for all the help she gave me so far! I start as an amateur user and still am one! But in vimeo I enjoy quality videos and it gives me the course to quality...
Being in Vimeo you learn from a very open community! Thank you everyone!

This is so incredibly simple. Let me give you the skinny.

Vimeo is for cool people.
YouTube is for douchebags.

NEXT!

Compared to Youtube, Vimeo seems to me HD in every aspect.

YouTube is shit. I have given up putting my content there because of the amount of "haters" they have. I've seen too many of my friends get slammed and insulted by people who have no creativity themselves. They simply create user accounts to slam other people's content.

It is true that YouTube has the eyeballs, but as a previous user said above, those are eyeballs I don't need. There are too many other great sites like Vimeo full of people who are content creators and give good, constructive feedback.

I say down with YouTube and so should you! :)

Vimeo rocks, I have always tryed to find a good video service but this one is the best. Youtube sucks big time.

vimeo seems to be cool for collab work and HD. not many of my friends have converted.... yet.

YouTube... never heard of it

I've never really liked youtube. All my reasons have already been said such as; the amount of people who just comment negative things, disturbing messages, spam and all those poor mobile phone uploads.
I like Vimeo much more. The videos are fantastic here (creative and inspiring), the people are very nice, and! I haven't seen any spam yet!

Woo.

I hope Vimeo NEVER becomes YT - I only watch cheesy old 80s music clips on YT (and some amateur/candid cam stuff), nothing else. YT is a big pile of garbage, caters all ages from early teens to nostalgic adults - this place here is about quality and creative stuff, unlike YT...

There are way too many random videos on YouTube and it takes a long time until you get to see something worthy. 95% is just garbage. I upload a video on YOUTUBE and it just gets lost into space. It's way better to have an specialized website like VIMEO, where people really take care of what they post. And the video quality is way much better too!
I don't mind having too many viewers, I mind the kind of eyes that watch my videos, and Vimeo's comunity is more of the kind of spectator I am.

Vimeo vs. YouTube is like DeviantArt vs. Imageshack
Imageshack for everyone, DeviantArt for artists =)

If you want to SHOW the world something you use VIMEO but if you want to TELL the world something you use YOUTUBE.

dang, what he said above.
youtube is exploitive. lots of teenies dancin around in their underwear.
here on Vimeo you see magic that people produce with lenses, software and imagination.
Youtube I can find re runs of Airwolf.

I just like how Youtube makes the encoding process simple quick and easy. No waiting around wondering when a video is going to show up like on Vimeo.

Being able to network through Youtube, Facebook and MySpace is also a plus that I think Vimeo hasn't quite resolved yet.

Other than that, I love the video quality here and the ability to always find creative videos.

For me YT is the place where drop anything. Vimeo is the site for creative quality videos. I don't mind about how many people watch my videos, I mind about who watch them.
Thinks I love in Vimeo that I don't have in YT.
- Video Creativity and Quality
- Active community helping and commenting.
- Active Staff helping at the forums and answering to almost all problems.
- Lots of features, channels, groups, albums and a long, long list.

Im a professional so I use vimeo. Youtube is for amateurs and viral videos. Its as simple as that.

Vimeo is cleaner looking, better quality, better embed player, better in general, youtube is cluttered and slow, although youtube has millions of more videos, Vimeo will prevail.

Vimeo has a much better flow, you don´t get stuck, and the interface design is really cool and simple.
And if you are interested in the art of film, Vimeo is the obvious choice compared to YouTube.
To me YouTube is more like a (search)tool and Vimeo is a place for entertainment.

youtube cause everyone can find it. vimeo, cause you can see it!

wow, i have just moved over from you tube i can say i'm enjoy the intellectual conversation.

I personally think vimeo is superior with the interface and the usability, which I think is really important. YouTube however has LOTS of users and is integrated into a lot of devices (Iphone, for example) - And that's why I use YouTube more than Vimeo, although I'd like it to be the opposite way.

Long posts but I'm gonna say what I think about youtube.

I think youtube had it's good times. But now it's corrupt. It's loaded with crap, rip-offs people making "compilations of stills of my favourite simpsons pictures wit some music", and the tons of porn sites trying to advertise via centre-frames and "sexy" tags.

Normal browsing like doing a search on google with filters ON isn't possible on YouTube anymore. 3 clicks into serious reviews and you stumble upon crap.

YouTube has hyper-video-linking, lot's of viewers... but a lot of them are kids.
You can find just about anything on youtube.

So I'll still post my music / DJ clips on there and hope some sensible people will watch them and have something good to say.

Vimeo feels like a true community for artists that support each other's creative goals.
More of a forum WITH embedded content.
I love the fact that Vimeo is rather simple and only has 1 advertisement.
However there are some people spamming Vimeo right now with inappropriate content. FLAG THEM OUT PEOPLE.

The big thing I'm missing is RELATED videos on Vimeo.
Or rather suggestions. "most of the people that watched this video, also watched this other video".
Like last.fm recommends you songs.
That would be great and totally in place for today's trends.

On Vimeo feel like "a person" has something to say to me or others. Rather than "some people" just blabbing in the post on YouTube.

Keep improving and supporting Vimeo!

I was recently removed from YouTube because of TOS violations. Really? Everything I had on YouTube was something I owned or was deeply involved with. I'm a pro and I had posted short films and commercials that I personally created and I was removed -- on Christmas Day -- without warning. I didn't do anything wrong. If I ever left criticism on someone's video it was always constructive and I never got "written up" or anything. Why was my account suddenly banned? Why can't YouTube support the artist on a more personal basis?

YouTube became a corporate machine. It doesn't care about the individual user because for every one it screws there's a million more accounts to keep the traffic numbers up and the ad dollars rolling in. It's all about the kids and the crappy videos and the numbers. It's all about the quantity. It's all about the "I have a YouTube account" junior high prestige.

It's MySpace with video; which is obviously redundant.

When that happened I decided to become a Plus member here on Vimeo. I was already using both services: YouTube for the exposure and Vimeo for the quality, but then the realization hit me: for all its numbers YouTube is no more a community than a viper lair. Sure, they're all vipers, but they'll just as soon bite you as crap on you.

Vimeo, on the other hand, actually IS a community. One with parents that actually supervise and you know their names. You can communicate with the peeps responsible for maintaining this site and actually be heard...with responses. And Joe User here is also friendly and knowledgeable. Sure, people can get a little snippy here -- that happens everywhere -- but that's everywhere. But I don't get the sense of an "it's the internet so I can still be kind of anonymous and speak ill at you without fear of you punching me in the face like you might in the real world" attitude as you would on other sites and forums.

You guys are MY KIND of snippy. I'm an artist, too. I know how that goes. But it's on topic and has a point. That's constructive. Turning my video's page into an off topic flame war? That's YouTube.

Community: don't let Vimeo become another YouTube.

Vimeo is quality over quantity.

I am a Plus member because I believe in Vimeo and what it stands for. I'm an artist, I'm not a child, and I want to be surrounded by like-minded individuals who believe in my work as much as I believe in theirs.

That's Vimeo.

Just work on an app for the iPhone and you'll be all set. :)

I agree with all out there , thats why I joined to see other creative ideas, I think it gives others more input to share and give back as opposed to the useless JUNK, and Massive COMERCIALLIZATION oF Y.T. As for viewer hits who cares
man just keep comin up with great ideas. upload you projects. There are alot of talented people on this site and I see alot more constructive comments as opposed to negative.........

Tuning just a week ago to Vimeo I am here now and I am addicted I could say with so many great videos!

I would also like to point that the site is AMAZINGLY organized. Whatever i would want to do is where I exaclty want to be! It's incredible! I just use my imagination to do something and everything I want is there! AMAZING work guys both users and administrators.

I don't want to go to YouTube again! That page sucks big big big time and google should invest more money for better quality (but it will suck again anyway - you know the reason).

I just have one request that's all. Please guys increase the upload space a couple of hundread megabites. 700 or 800 MB would be awesome.


and hey not all the 14 or 16 year old boys are posting crap! I try to post edited videos with some quality!

An interesting note to all of you. Not only is Vimeo better all around when it comes to quality, one of my own Vimeo videos made it to the first spot at the top of Google's search. Using the following keywords:

"cinelerra advantage youtubes widescreen"

You will note by the keywords that I was seeking others who have successfully rendered videos using the Linux "Cinelerra" editor and have done so for taking advantage of YOUTUBE'S new wide-screen format. What came up? My vimeo video "How To Prevent A Drive-By Paintball Shooting" hosted here on Vimeo. What that video has in pertinence to using Cinelerra for YouTube.. no clue.

Fact is that it appears videos here on Vimeo are getting excellent hits from Google and that, my friends, is more valuable than "sheer numbers" of videos.

The 'paintball shooting' video may seem boring to most here in the U.S. as the students were speaking in Spanish as part of their High School Spanish class project, so unless you know Spanish well enough to understand their badly spoken attempts (they still did better than I ever would have though) it may seem to be "missing" something - ENGLISH!! (lol) - so doesn't quite make sense to many.

None-the-less, I'm thrilled to see Google's 'engine' knows quality when it sees it. Vimeo Quality, that is.

I meant to add one more thing to the above post: Once I get myself employed again (things are rough here at the moment) I will be gladly paying Vimeo for a paid membership to help them out even though I haven't had time or money to do much with video at this point in time. These folks deserve to be supported so they can stick around while others are falling off the face of of the internet-scape.

I would strongly urge everyone to make the same consideration. One of the podcasting firms on which I was hosting one of my shows - Podango - just permanently went "off the air" this past week. They offered free hosting in exchange for your allowing them to put advertisements at the beginning and/or end of each episode. Advertiser revenue wasn't enough and the result is....

SILENCE

Let's not allow this to happen to Vimeo. I'll be sending them fundage out of any tax refund I may receive this year - if any. Should be enough to get Vimeo an annual payment :)

Long live Vimeo!

I like both Vimeo and YouTube.

Some things I don't like on YouTube:

1) Most content is just recorded from TV or other places, no original content like Vimeo.

2) YouTube has now very good video quality, but you cannot replace old videos to get this better quality. Also I don't like the player with the YT logo over my video and the new search bar on it.

3) YouTube started inserting ads over some videos. If seen some of this adds over my videos while playing. This is really disturbing when you¡re watching a video.

So I prefer Vimeo where I can watch really good videos from Vimeo Users, I can download original versions of the videos and I can have a nicer player (I don't but if I want I can remove the Vimeo logo).

Of course, things like Forums, Albums, Channels or Groups are no present in YouTube (Well you have some kind of groups).

So, I prefer Vimeo. Video Quality is not all, it's just a part (perhaps the most important) of the experience. But If you want quality, download the original video and watch with your preferred player.

Vimeo is godsend!

Quality is better, People aren't immature little five year-olds who make negative comments. And it has a nice modern user-interface that isn't cluttered with crap that nobody wants to see! simply beautiful!

I agree mostly, however, Vimeo has been buggy for me lately. Uploading has not gone smoothly in ALL of my recent uploads. It's forced me to upload to YouTube so that the Fam can see the grandkids until Vimeo can figure out their problems.

Youtube and Vimeo. Hmmm...

Youtube started it all and I'm used to that interface. The only problem other than the trolls, is Youtube's legal problems with Viacom and WMG.

I've had 2 videos pulled because I used copyrighted music that is owned by WMG, but I guess BMG and the others are just a-okay!

Vimeo is pretty slick and well made. I'm going to give it a chance.

The quality is really not noticeable if you format your files correctly and the added exposure + ability to upload more content makes Youtube the clear winner and that is the real reason everyone is there and not using Vimeo.

I have to say, I really enjoy using Vimeo, the people are so creative and give me inspiration and ideas, and as said above, YouTube seems to have alot more bashing, while Vimeo is nothing but positive comments and constructive critisism. I personally love Vimeo, and will continue to use it. Go Vimeo!

hmmmm... uhhhh.... VIMEO________!

I use mostly YouTube but Vimeo is way better :D

I think I can sum it up best with this little parable:

After completing our no-fi miniseries--following two years of back-breaking "learn as you go at EVERY possible step" headaches, heartaches, blood, sweat and tears--I uploaded it onto YouTube. Within a day, I had my first response. To summarize it:

"this was the worst film I ever watched. Get some actors and learn how to write, and don't give up your day job at Arby's, $%^%^@*."

Now, mind you, any person who dips and delves into the art realm has already run this circuit in their head a dozen times; getting smeared by strangers is the vernacular of the internet.

However, I posted the same material on Vimeo a few months later, and received a lovely little message from a perfect stranger.

"Made me laugh. Keep up the good work."

It may all be trivial and arbitrary in the greater scheme of what we do, but the fact that my humble little offerings have found more of an audience on here than crackle, dailymotion OR YT really does mean a lot. It also reflects the fact that this site's maintained a sense of dignity and integrity through its format and subscribership, which is something I can't say ANY of those other host-pits have managed.

So, fair play.

Vimeo makes me feel like I am part of a growing family. For example, we are having an intelligent conversation here. It also makes me work harder on my first video before I upload. I got garbage I can upload, but that belongs on youtube...Thanks Vimeo :)

We've been testing Vimeo and several other services for a few months now. I am leaning towards Vimeo and a plus upgrade.

YouTube HD is actually very good. But its player looks horrible.

Facebook seems to perform surprisingly well, but is obviously a social network first and foremost, not a professional video sharing service.

The Vimeo interface is nice. I'm curious to know what kind of player customization there is with the plus account.

My biggest negative on Vimeo is the pricing model. I don't like the nickel & dime $60 + credits plan. It will force me to think carefully about which embeds to grant HD streaming, and also to limit what gets viewed by people. That's unfortunate. If we spend time on video production, I want as many people as possible to see the results!

I would suggest a another tier plan that is an "all-you-can-eat" for say $90/yr. And then lower the plus plan to $40/yr +credits. Or something like that.

For anyone curious in our comparison reports, you can visit this link which also has embedded tests including Vimeo which fares very well indeed. Best. Clint

starksilvercreek.com/2009/04/vimeo-youtube-facebook-viddler-smugmug-review-comparison-reigns-supreme-online-hd-video-hosting.html

I think Vimeo is nice and clean. I don't like dirt.

Everything said here already, I guess ... maybe just one thing, Vimeo could probably improve. In YouTube, people can choose the language, in which they like to use it. Vimeo is "only" in English.

All native English speakers might think, the world is speaking English anyway, but the truth is quite different.
For example here in Japan, the number of English speaking people ( on a level, that they can use such a homepage, fully understanding all terms and expressions ) is still less and the situation in China, Russia, South Amerika and even in Europe is often not much better.

Vimeo would get much more fans all over the world and more creative people from all over the world could connect in this great community, if there would be at least the chance to select one of the 10 most spoken languages. Something, that is already standard in Facebook, MySpace, etc. ... and in YouTube.

Please help....how can I get my video to play widescreen on my myspace page? Thannnnnk you! :0)

I just made the switch. uploaded my first video (slideshow) and am in love. going to test drive it a bit more. but I can see going "plus" quickly. even if I won't go over the basic needs. I'll support it if it's working great for me.

I switched from youtube. All those drug abuse, racist, nonesense craps on youtube make me feel so bad. I closed my youtube account and that was all. Vimeo has better quality as well and more control. I think the worst is the comments below the youtube videos. Hardly you can find a hard work video without the f... or n... word. I just don't want this people to view my work. It's not good for anybody finally.

I love the possibilities of Vimeo and cringe at the what YouTube has become. I have yet to see a cyber-bully on this site, and best of all, everyone here seems genuinely interested in the promotion of art. That's refreshing. All Vimeo needs is an iPhone App (to work around the 3GS pushing straight to YouTube). It would be a done deal then. Vimeo's my pick.

YouTube is a very open community, were users can pot videos to literally every topic that exists. The community consists of tens of millions of users who casually surf for entertaining videos. Another part of the community are people who upload videos -some are comedy skits, others are sculpting tutorials, and some are video logs.

Vimeo, on the other hand, seems like a more closed community. The site is geared towards creative and professional users -a vast majority who are work in motion graphics, visual art, film editing, animation, cinematography -film in general.

I prefer Vimeo for uploading what I would call "serious" videos -my personal productions, works made for clients, and motion reels. YouTube, on the other hand, is a great website for a variety of videos, which tend to be funny, entertaining, or somewhat informative, like a tutorial.

With the addition of YouTube's HD Format, the website becomes a bigger competitor to Vimeo, as the feature draws the creative community. However, I always found that Vimeo's community consists of a more intelligent, mature, and informed people -rather than a general public who might not understand your video.

Finally, Vimeo offers numerous features that are very useful for creative professionals and hobbyists alike.

If you get a response to your video work here, it's a positive response in 90 %, and the "Like" button is a perfect thing too <3

And I think youtube is getting worse and worse and worse day after day...

Well, I still watch videos on youtube, but the comments below really make me lose hope for humanity.

The worst is when you watch videos from landscapes and countries Just check something like Ireland, Greece, Norway, US... It is full of racist comments below. I haven't seen that here on vimeo...

The only thing that I would like to suggest: When somebody comments, vimeo to be able to show me some important details of the user like email and IP address like it happens with the blogs and other websites.