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Also, citing the ban of video game content for a "lack of creative expression" (with the exception of Machinima) shows a lack of respect and knowledge for the time and skill it takes to put these videos together. For example, a well put together montage that displays a person's skill in particular game is not that different from Jordan Clarke's "Human Movement In Light," which is extremely popular on Vimeo and a favorite video of mine. Both have someone showcasing his or her talents. Both involve create editing. Both take a lot of time and effort to put together.
Also, one might argue that the majority of video game content does not have the previously mentioned qualities of a good video. However, the same could be said for most of the content on Vimeo period. It takes a lot of work to make a high quality video, and if the majority of video game content doesn't live up to that kind of standard, video game content on Vimeo as a whole shouldn't suffer for it.
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Paragraphs such as:
"We currently do not feel that Machinima films fall under the category of gaming videos described above and, therefore, assuming compliance with our site's general terms & conditions, we will continue to accept such videos on Vimeo. We are not, at this time, banning films that fall into the Machinima genre."
do not really reassure me - there are far too many "at this time"s there.
If the issue is that people are dumping enormous video files into Vimeo and it can't cope with it then by all means change the way the upload cap works, but quite frankly even if I were to record an hour of my wandering around Second Life and doing nothing of interest then upload that, it would be just as "valid" as somebody who uploaded themselves wandering around the place where they lived or an hour of them playing with their cat.
This is extremely disappointing to those of us who create all manner of media using SL as our stage.
Please reconsider this decision.
And by taking away most of the tanscoding servers' time and leaving normal videos out in the cold, I think they had it coming to be removed.
Sorry, but there is pretentious and then there is pretentious.
If Vimeo wants to cut out the pixelated videos because of bandwidth and server space reasons, fine. Maybe they lacked a scalability roadmap.
But having seen the home videos, the talking heads vlogs and the "Look, I filmed a famous person at a convention" vids, please do not use "a certain level of quality" as an excuse.
I don't see how DIY dolly videos and a video of a farting naked girl in a bath tub is more artistic than video game montages, which is just like when a band makes a music video. It's people displaying their skills in a creative and artistic manner.
To claim gaming videos don't "fit" is a bit of an absurdity when you consider exactly how much power Vimeo has to categorize and filter content. If someone browsing the website doesn't want to see the gaming videos, there's no reason they should ever have to.
The reality is that Vimeo just can't handle the demand from customers to host content. That's why there's a weekly upload cap to begin with. People have more stuff they want to upload than their business model will allow.
@Zach
Vimeos quality? No one is paying for anything, so far I don't see any real revenue models, and before they can even get millions of users they start outcasting. This is not some fantasy drama, golf clap club.
I believe people think that because youtube does it then everyone else should too. Well, youtube is crap & full of a lot of garbage. And about half the comments are straight up retarded/immature. You guys know its true.
Just saying, you gotta drawl the line at some stuff. Vimeo isnt trying to be another youtube or Stage6, thank God.
we done a video taken from a computer-game to show the result of our tutorial on our site. it's a tutorial about FRAPS and how to use it to screencaputure hd-videos directly in games. to not just present it in textform we added the video, so that people could see something and this video was uploaded here.
it's rather short, because it's just for representing, but I hope it will stay here.
it's not on me judging other video related videos here, I don't know where to draw the line between an artistic approach to videogames or just showng a moving "demo".
but I would like to point out that banning a hole "genre" isn't good.
greets, Andreas
I can understand video walkthroughs or just a simple game replay with no editing being removed...no problems there. But, they're just lumping anything game related into one gigantic pot. Mind boggling...
I'd rather just hear the plain truth instead of being told it's a resource issue. You can't tell me that the standard def videos I've submitted take up MORE room than an HD video.
I'm sooooo happy I dropped over 2 grand in hardware and software the last month to make Hi-Def montages only to find out that this site will no longer allow them. I might as well have just flushed the 2 grand directly down the toilet.
Oh well, plenty more fish in the sea.
1. "But people post big videos of grass/cats/paint-drying/etc."
So?
2. "I spend lots of time on my videos"
So?
3. "But we're conducting our video skate tournament/race time-trials/etc."
So?
4. "I don't have the video anymore"
So?
5. "You'll lose a lot of people"
Even if true: So?
6. "Look, here's a video of a game someone made/an animation/etc. - you'll delete that"
No. Read the blog post.
7. "Staff never respond"
They do, it's just they have six or so people trying to placate a horde of dysentric, braying giraffes.
8. "I'm never going here again"
Bye.
"I don't seem to understand that these people are offended because their way of using Vimeo was deemed unworthy, while other uses for Vimeo seem just as or even more pointless. Because of my lack of understanding and/or empathy, I'd rather submit a semi-witty post instead of actually adding to the discussion."
We're all entitled to our own opinion though, so it's all good in the hood if you feel that way :D
9. Talentless live-action hacks dance and gloat like they won a contest, then post arrogant witless replies here just to kick fellow artists / hobbyists while they are down.
I bet if your really creative with your "intricately made video game montage" you can edit in a story and the montage could be highlights in an epic.