This is a preview for a full-length interview to be posted on http://www.artistforartist.org. This excerpt is where both David and Adriane begin to talk about their artistic practice in relation to gender. This interview was conducted between artists Adriane Schramm and David Mramor for AFA. The video was taken in David's apartment in the Lower East Side, NYC in July 2010. The performance work that was shot of Enid Ellen was taken at Envoy Enterprises, NYC.