Interviews with witnesses who reported other gunmen at the Columbine shooting.

As you can see in this media interview from 20 April 1999 with Columbine High School sophomore Chris Wisher, some witnesses to the Columbine shootings reported gunmen other than seniors Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold as having been involved as active participants in the now-famous massacre we all know as "Columbine."

I've documented some of the many, and by many, I mean, in some cases, dozens of witnesses who independently corroborated specific witness reports of other gunmen at Columbine, many of whom named the non-Harris/non-Klebold suspects by name, in a 2007 video called "The Columbine Cause" and subsequent pieces. These other suspects included current and former CHS students Chris Morris, Robert Perry and Brian Sargent, as well as at least one unidentified adult who was reportedly witnessed prowling the science areas with a sawed-off shotgun.

I recently managed to get in touch of with some of the witnesses who had reported some of this information to ask them what they had to say about the way that the "investigation" ultimately turned out and how they felt about the overall state of the history of Columbine, since, in their police interviews, it seemed that many of them had indicated that they were very sure based on their own observations that others had been involved, others who, in some cases, were known to the witnesses on a personal basis. Six of the witnesses responded to my inquiry and none of them gave me permission to identify them so I will not disclose any personal information about them. You can find my full report on what they told me at, and I will give a brief summary with some additional information here.

Two of witnesses did not answer any questions. One turned silent immediately after I explained what my interest was and the other told me that he would only comment for money. I didn't take him up on this offer because I did not believe that I would necessarily be getting accurate information.

The next two witnesses were more open but explained that the shooting had really bothered them and that it had taken a long time for them to feel at all normal again even years after the fact. One said he would watch "The Columbine Cause," think about my questions and then reply. He didn't reply, and follow-up questions went unanswered. The fourth witness told me that he had blocked out a lot of memories, was still shaky when recalling the shooting and probably wouldn't be able to answer any questions, even though he had no ideological opposition to doing so. I thanked him and suggested that if he ever did feel like talking about it, there are people who are interested in listening.

The fifth witness agreed to speak with me on the phone, telling me that he was, quote, "willing to talk." Once on the phone, the witness turned combative and heavily critical almost immediately, but continued to talk for about fifteen minutes. our conversation is too long to share in this video, but you can read the full transcript at

The sixth and last witness was, by far, the most forthcoming. He, too, had suffered emotional trauma but this did not hinder from from making a statement. He told me that he had definitely seen at least one non-Harris/non-Klebold gunman and had been put under a lot of pressure to change his story and back the official version of events which held that a pair of "lone nuts" perpetrated the shooting on their own, completely unaided in any way and without the foreknowledge of anyone else at all. The witness told me, quote:

"I have a hard time watching your entire video. I watched 5 min. I saw too much that day, plain and simple. I have been told I could and would easily disappear if I tried to expose what happened that day. I was locked inside that building [for hours] with the teacher [Dave Sanders] that died, risked my life to save him and he still died. I lost [...] friends [...] and had many friends seriously injured. [...] I was O. C. D. trying to save myself from death at [such a young age]. I was also told by the police and investigators that I [...] was the most credible witness that day: However, I did not see [...] this and [...] that! [...] Everything I said happened in those 4 hours, the police have evidence of happening within 2 minutes of when I say it happened. They only denied my credibility after celebrating my accounts as true and belittling me and my mother to our faces! My mom taught me to “Pay attention to time, location, and description.” She taught me that it pays to pay attention. This time it didn’t pay it cost me. I am a potential threat to those guilty and still living. They cannot make up their minds of what is right and wrong, they’ve been sucked into to the evil [...]. I want to write a book, and have since it happened, but know too many reasons not to [publish it], like my family saying it risks my life. It still plagues me that my friends were forced to leave me while those sickened minds who killed them still walk [among] us. I want peace without being a martyr! I love and so I am lovable! What makes that so hard?!!! My protectors betrayed me, deeply. Would die for the truth, but want to live for the beauty of my lost friends memory and most important power of LOVE!”"

Returning to Chris Wisher with whom this video opened, this last witness' statement to me echoes almost exactly the sentiments that independent reporter John Quinn conveyed in a series of articles from 1999 in which he interviewed Wisher and Wisher's parents over the telephone in the weeks following the shooting. Quinn wrote that Mrs. Wisher, quote,

"told me that so many Columbine students know of other assailants being involved that she sees no way the truth about this could be covered up. [...] In my conversation with Mrs. Wisher I brought up the fact that Chris said he knew personally a girl who was coerced into changing her testimony by Sheriffs investigators, and made to say that she had only seen Harris and Klebold. Mrs. Wisher replied: “Oh, I know the girl. She was over here right after...” (the questioning). She told us all about it, but you know, this was right after the massacre....”

There is really no telling at this point exactly how much of the official story of Columbine and the background surrounding it is myth and misdirection. However, there is some precedent for the staging of mass shootings like Columbine by groups based within the State for political ends, the Gladio shootings in Western Europe being a prime example.

You can find out more about this and other shootings through materials on my web site,, which is also accessible by the shortcuts, and

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