Mona Nilsson from Swedish Radiation Protection Foundation asks Eric van Rongen one of 8 experts in the Swedish Radiation Safetey Authority's expert group on EMF at a seminar on May 19th 2016, why the Swedish people and decision makers should trust him more than the 220 scientists who signed the EMF scientists appeal . Unlike Eric van Rongen these 220 scientists have no problems in drawing conclusions that there is increasing evidence for health risks well below current guidelines. Eric van Rongen is chairman of ICNIRP that is behind current guidelines, which would be invalid if a health risk is admitted. The ICNIRP guidelines are obsolete and insufficient to protect the public from health risks according to a growing number of scientists, but they are of huge importance for the industry. Eric van Rongen is also a long term member of industry organisation IEEE/ICES. He therefore has a clear conflict of interest when acting on behalf of the Swedish Authority.