This is an interview with Dr. Ivan Williams and his wife Kathleen Williams who have served over twenty years as a pastoral team. They share some of the things that they have learned in their journey.
This interview is part of the Keeping it Real special edition of the Pastor's DVD to be distributed to the pastors of the North American Division of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in 2012. You can watch all of the segments online at: Keeping It Real for NAD Ministerial Spouses Association
Pastoral spouses can join the conversation on facebook.com/Ministerial SpousesAssociation.