Matt Iverson is the interviewer in this video. He has a strong memory.

Last spring he worked on a plot of land trying to make a sustainable farm-type-thing out of it. I've talked to him only rarely as of late (mid-2007).

Last time I talked to him, he was excited about mapping fruit and nut trees in a google document. He noticed that in Eugene, there was a lot of wasted fruit on the ground. Free wasted food.

Phil is the creator of the Microphones/Mt Eerie. I especially like the album 'Mt. Eerie' by the Microphones because it feels like a vast expanse, an alternate universe. Here is his website: pwelverumandsun.com.

Here's mine: whatwonder.com

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