Today’s presentation features Michele Baldwin, Ph.D, MSW and Bud (Dewitt) Baldwin, Md. Michele wrote Step By Step with Virginia and edited the book The Use of Self. Bud has had a career as a Paediatrician, Psychiatrist, Professor, Researcher and has over 300 publications. He is currently a scholar in residence at the American Medical Association. They met Virginia in 1969 and were close friends with her until her death in 1988. They will be interviewed by Jean McLendon, LCSW, LMFT. Who is eager for everyone to know them and to know Virginia better by way of their very special relationship with her. Topic: One couple’s long standing relationship with Virginia and what they learned about her and themselves.