Ok I get it, this is a long interview, but aren't the best rewards in life the most arduously attained? Watch the first first half, watch the first minute, maybe you'll hear something to keep you around. The discussion zigs and zags around topics of Pat's band Personal Finance (personalfinance.bandcamp.com), the ubiquity of the internet, its effect on artists, the importance of personal enrichment and other matters of the inquisitive mind.

Song:
River Blues
by R. Crumb and his Keep-on-Truckin' Orchestra

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