Larry Wessels, Director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater; see websites: BIBLEQUERY ORG (answers 7700 Bible Questions), HISTORYCART COM (documents early Christian church teachings clearly refuting Roman Catholic claims of historical relevancy) & MUSLIMHOPE COM (a classic refutation of historical & doctrinal claims of Muhammad's created religion) has worked closely with both James White, Director of Alpha & Omega Ministries, & Rob Zins, Director of "A Christian Witness to Roman Catholicism." By going to either GOOGLE VIDEO or YAHOO VIDEO & typing in LARRY WESSELS in their respective homepage search boxes, hundreds of video productions will come up. Here viewers can find videos that Larry has done with James White ("Sola Scriptura", "Evidence that Jesus is God", "New Age Bible Versions", for instance) or with Rob Zins (see the 16 hour series on "Roman Catholicism," "Debate with a Monsignor," "The Idolatry of Mary Worship," etc.). This particular debate by James White & Rob Zins is very useful in equipping Christians on how to answer the typical Romanist arguments used to support the heretical doctrine of a "pope." The two Roman Catholic apologists (Scott Butler & Robert Sungenis) use everything they can muster to try to establish that Christians are to follow the "Pope in Rome" by highly questionable hermeneutics concerning Matthew 16 & a few other verses. The differences between the two debate teams in this theological war could not be greater. One can then understand why the great Reformer Martin Luther in church history had said, "Previously I said the Pope was the Vicar of Christ. I recant. Now I say the Pope is the adversary of Christ and the apostle of the Devil". Virtually all of the historic confessions of faith of the major Protestant denominations hold that the Pope is the very Anti-Christ mentioned in 2 Thessolonians 2:3-12.