Alan Duff

Alan Duff

A simple project, ask anyone if they like them and film the reactions.

I have done the first one and here it is: vimeo.com/1330762

B Unis

B Unis

I'm afraid you may have made the definitive vimeo v. youtube video there. Others will be afraid to compete, as your video really says it all with great economy of means (if you don't add in the cost of supporting your daughter from now until college graduation).

David Piccirilli

David Piccirilli

with vimeo, you can bypass all the crappy webcam vids, product reviews and all the othe stupid stuff ppl do on youtube, and actually find cool videos. thats what ive noticed anyways

Double Films

Double Films

+2

Vimeo is for people with a passion.

Youtube is for people who want fame and popularity.

Sam Welker

Sam Welker Plus

Vimeo is professional, youtube is little kids with a video camera+a little bit of quality work..

Nonstopvid

Nonstopvid

Just incase anyone comes on this now, I'd go with Youtube for sure. I used to be a Vimeo plus member but due to restricted HD embeds and there is still no embeddable version that works on iPhone (sure you can link back to vimeo, but who wants to re-direct from there website to vimeo for mobile users, no one.)
With Youtube you do not have to pay to be at the front of the queue to encode your video. Youtube encodes instantly.
The only thing Vimeo has that Youtube doesn't is a customisable player for plus members. BUT it's nothing you couldn't do with a youtube video yourself here:

longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player-setup-wizard

Vimeo needs to catch up or at least offer their plus members something that is equivalent to a youtube free account, otherwise what's the point?

Jonathan Crider

Jonathan Crider

Not true. All you gotta do is check the box that says "make mobile versions of all my videos" box in the settings/video file tab. Done.

It works. I have the iPhone, and I can view all my vids. If you've got one, go test it. How it comes up first may seem like it's not going to work, but if you give it a second it works fine. Go try it.

laffer35

laffer35

Hehe nice.

I like both sites. Youtube gives more exposure and has some features this site is lacking while this site has other advantages like better video quality, groups and other things.

Brighton Chemtrails

Brighton Chemtrails

Agrees, I cant change the background colour for one on Vimeo! other that that I really like Vimeo. Youtube now has Groups but its HD isn't as good as Vimeos.

Videographers

Videographers Plus

yes, but YT won't sputter on play as vimeo and you can play it without all the pauses. You haven't noticed it?
I don't have time to wait 10 minutes for a 3 minute vimeo file to play smoothly.

YT quality just as good as vimeo.

DJ Finn TV

DJ Finn TV Plus

ive uploaded the same video on YT and Vimeo and when i watch it on Vimeo the quality is better. try for urself.

Ross Waters

Ross Waters

I use to upload to youtube. This site rocks for HD users, youtub added their version of HQ but it is the same size. I figure this site will surpass the tube in good time, it is better on many things. The only thing vimeo is lacking is users.

youtube seems like a kids site to me, what do you guys think?

teamfresh

teamfresh

Yes! youtube is like a kids site. It has its uses but there seems to be a lot of utter crap posted on it. This makes it hard to find the gems. When I watch videos on vimeo, its clear to see a lot more thought has been put into what is posted! Vimeo has a real feel of artistic class about it - youtube does not!

Hubilicious

Hubilicious

Just switched. =] I'll get around to making some more videos when I can, but until then, y'all can check out my old stuff at youtube.com/jimmyjamez69 I don't THINK they suck, but I could be wrong...

Taylor Lisney

Taylor Lisney

I completely agree. I've just joined here and already I find that the video's here have the ability to inspire the creative mind. I'm 25 and end up feeling out of place and too old for YouTube because it seems like everyone on it is a foul-mouthed 12-year-old.

Phil Fried

Phil Fried Plus

I prefer vimeo (not only for videoquality reasons) - youtube is kind of a playground for people who grabbed videoclips somewhere - a lot of crap lying around there.
vimeo seems to adress to a more creative type of people... lack of users - no deal in my opinion - you really want to have all those youtube-spammers here? vimeo is quality, not quantity - which really matters i think

Neil Sanjay

Neil Sanjay

I agree completely, I mean we want users on vimeo, but let's keep in mind that people spend a lot of time/money on video projects and a place like vimeo is perfect to filter out those who don't really have the artistic edge.

Kevin Hosford

Kevin Hosford

I agree exactly, as it would be great to have more user's on vimeo but keeping in mind the more users means the possibility of more useless junk which youtube is famous for.

Brett

Brett

If i made a quality video, i would put it on vimeo but then it wouldnt get really popular (which is the only thing i like about youtube). some people go the route where they upload it to both sites, but a link to the one on youtube and label it hi quality version.

Georgina Ditton

Georgina Ditton

Agree with you all, especially Phil, I go to youtube if there's a random clip I know I want to see, & I come to vimeo for interesting, quality videos & inspiration. The comments here are constructive, on youtube they're pointless, childish digs, often unrelated to the video at all.

→Zac Boyet←

→Zac Boyet←

1 I HATE seeing my videos butchered by the youtube encoder

2 Youtube users are some serious morons on average

3 Vimeo has a much more artistic mature community

Sure youtube may have more eyeballs but they are eyeballs I could do without. If you want to see the latest and greatest video of some guy getting hit in the balls or something youtube is your kind of place.

Paul Langereis

Paul Langereis

The only thing You Tube has over Vimeo is a larger audience. I agree with others that You Tube's quality stinks, and that many videos are extremely amatuerish. Ihope Vimeo stays where it is at (quality videos and image), vs quantity. In short, I think that You Tube is a fad for people that don't appreciate artictic work.

Charles Huettner

Charles Huettner

youtube is where id go for the quick viral videos of the moment. or maybe to find some obscure video that was taken before the internet was invented. or something you missed on tv. vimeo is my home for original creative videos. i have a youtube account, but it just cant measure up to the quality of vimeo.

BSA Troop 38

BSA Troop 38

I think YouTube has a lot of content, but Vimeo is definitely for those who care about quality, like I do. The only thing I see wrong with Vimeo is that it limits the size of your upload. That's fine but I wish they would let your unused MBs rollover to the next week.

Kevin Hosford

Kevin Hosford

Vimeo has a certain richness to it.
maybe the clean slick interface that I love
or the creative minds and talent availible for inspiration
Or maybe its the lack of mindless 14 year olds screaming "I LOVE HANNAH MONTANA", Ya thats it ;)

Radar Music Videos

Radar Music Videos

I love both. Vimeo is a joy to hang out on and see great films and see what filmmakers like. Seeing what is big on YouTube means something completely different but just as fascinating. I like the out-there comments on YouTube - random, strange, hilarious and I like the comments on Vimeo - thoughtful, appreciative, supportive. (but I hang out on Vimeo a lot more than YouTube...) Caroline

yacine helali

yacine helali Plus

Hi there,
I agree with most of you guys. The one thing that we all have to remember is the audience. At the end of the day our craft is all about producing something that people can watch and reflect about. Vimeo is our professional arena, Youtube is the real world. We'd better be flexible then.

Peace

Yacine Abu Nusaybah
profilmmaking.tumblr.com

TCUWATCHER

TCUWATCHER

A "thanks" to you, RadarTV, Jim Ingraham to what I would call sensible input to this subject. Reading many of the other comments, before and after, had me gritting my teeth as folks sound so "elitist", bolstering one form of communication, creativity and sharing of insight and personal information at the expense of mininizing and diminishing the other. How faithful will those same folks be, when things were to get subpar at Vimeo. Will they then speak disparagingly of this site? I am a baby boomer who has found, on YT, that there are "teens" who have an affintiy to old jazz, old rock, classical music etc sometimes over the contempary stuff(i.e. hip hop) that is out there. There are "nostalgic adults"(to borrow from SZLEVI below) and people of varying ages,who contribute greatly to artist, background and musical insight of which sometimes gets so intellectually technical that it is hard to keep up...but those that make those constructive and insightful contributions have shared a rich,wealth of information that even I had not been previously exposed to. True, there are good to intolerant to outright nasty comments found at YT, but isn't that the world but I have felt there is some(to say the least)intolerance noted in the posting on just this subject alone. Vimeo isn't a walled off Fantasyland, but it is a welcome port in its own right. Maybe YT to Vimeo is like a flea market to Brand Name store. The former, exposure to all the noises, nuttiness of humanity. The opportunity to explore and rummage about and maybe find a suprise in all that craziness. That latter, a little quieter, sedate with a sense of managed behavior. Both, in their own ways, offer the possibilties of intellectual growth and creative stimulation if one is willing to set biasis and horse poop. To borrow a couple of your words, if those artists and producers do not remember the audience, even that audience that they wish to withhold exposure of their works, to me, that is not a great demonstration of being "flexible" and sadly they nor us "the audience" will not be any richer for it.

Patrick Mantizz

Patrick Mantizz

Youtube for the audience, Vimeo for the possebilities

Jim Ingraham

Jim Ingraham

Apples and Oranges....two different concepts in video sharing....quality and focus vs. massive viewing potential and huge breadth of content...I use both, linking one to the other..

Gary Russell

Gary Russell

Vimeo has lack of user control like Deleting a video or changing the status of a video from public to private. Doubt I would post much here.

Alan Duff

Alan Duff

hmmm you can do both of those in vimeo.

Gary Russell

Gary Russell

Well ghezz... thanks for that great explanation. If they are there, they shore ain't easy to find and no where in the Help or support files.

Alan Duff

Alan Duff

when your on the video page look to the right of the title. If you are logged in and its your video you see a "Edit Page" button. Use that and then you should be able to see the delete video option and privacy options on the next page.

Gary Russell

Gary Russell

I'm logged in and do not see that. If you are talking about the MY VIDEO page, all I see is Search these videos. Why they put the delete on an 'Edit this page'. That makes no sense. Who designed this!!! Must have been a Mac user. :)

There should be a Delete BUTTON on the MY HOME PAGE / MY STUFF right beside each video.

Alan Duff

Alan Duff

this link vimeo.com/1592557 is to one of my videos, I see the "Edit page" icon to the right of the title. So if you click on one of your videos so your on its page then you should see one too.

Gary Russell

Gary Russell

Ok, how do I make suggestions? That is a really stupid place to put the option to delete a video. That would suggest to me that I want to "EDIT THE PAGE" and have nothing to do with deleting a file!

In fact, that option has very little to do with 'editing the page'. What you are doing is editing the info attached to the video and nothing more so that option should be re-named.

Gary Russell

Gary Russell

Again - a poor choice of words. 'DELETE THIS PAGE' does not have the same meaning to me as 'Delete this Video.'

Blake Whitman

Blake Whitman Staff

we feel 'delete this page' is actually more accurate because you are deleting everything to do with that page (ie comments, likes, the page itself... etc) not just the video.

Grizz St.

Grizz St.

Difficult Gary has been silenced!

PolykratisP

PolykratisP

Hi everyone! Vimeo gives quality, has ethics and you get to have the open-source's quality(of having people that know and are willing to share their knowledge). By the way I want to thank Eugenia for all the help she gave me so far! I start as an amateur user and still am one! But in vimeo I enjoy quality videos and it gives me the course to quality...
Being in Vimeo you learn from a very open community! Thank you everyone!

loonachic

loonachic

This is so incredibly simple. Let me give you the skinny.

Vimeo is for cool people.
YouTube is for douchebags.

NEXT!

Nic Summers

Nic Summers

these "douchebags" comments are exactly the reason youtube is so bad.. if you gotta trash talk this way, go back to utube..

Clintus McGintus

Clintus McGintus Plus

YouTube is shit. I have given up putting my content there because of the amount of "haters" they have. I've seen too many of my friends get slammed and insulted by people who have no creativity themselves. They simply create user accounts to slam other people's content.

It is true that YouTube has the eyeballs, but as a previous user said above, those are eyeballs I don't need. There are too many other great sites like Vimeo full of people who are content creators and give good, constructive feedback.

I say down with YouTube and so should you! :)

H.T. Murray

H.T. Murray

No no..... up with YouTube.... otherwise where will all those "Haters" go but here to Vimeo....

Up with YouTube and keep the masses at bay away from our beloved Vimeo!

Matthew Bodaly

Matthew Bodaly

vimeo seems to be cool for collab work and HD. not many of my friends have converted.... yet.

neon22

neon22

YouTube... never heard of it

Ohsta6t2

Ohsta6t2

You have probably been living under a rock for the past 5 years. It's a video sharing site that's comparable though probably not better than Vimeo.

Chrizzle

Chrizzle

I've never really liked youtube. All my reasons have already been said such as; the amount of people who just comment negative things, disturbing messages, spam and all those poor mobile phone uploads.
I like Vimeo much more. The videos are fantastic here (creative and inspiring), the people are very nice, and! I haven't seen any spam yet!

Woo.

szlevi

szlevi

I hope Vimeo NEVER becomes YT - I only watch cheesy old 80s music clips on YT (and some amateur/candid cam stuff), nothing else. YT is a big pile of garbage, caters all ages from early teens to nostalgic adults - this place here is about quality and creative stuff, unlike YT...

Santiago Samaniego

Santiago Samaniego Plus

There are way too many random videos on YouTube and it takes a long time until you get to see something worthy. 95% is just garbage. I upload a video on YOUTUBE and it just gets lost into space. It's way better to have an specialized website like VIMEO, where people really take care of what they post. And the video quality is way much better too!
I don't mind having too many viewers, I mind the kind of eyes that watch my videos, and Vimeo's comunity is more of the kind of spectator I am.

Lacc

Lacc

Vimeo vs. YouTube is like DeviantArt vs. Imageshack
Imageshack for everyone, DeviantArt for artists =)

utah62

utah62

If you want to SHOW the world something you use VIMEO but if you want to TELL the world something you use YOUTUBE.

Tingler

Tingler

dang, what he said above.
youtube is exploitive. lots of teenies dancin around in their underwear.
here on Vimeo you see magic that people produce with lenses, software and imagination.
Youtube I can find re runs of Airwolf.

Dreamartist Films

Dreamartist Films

I just like how Youtube makes the encoding process simple quick and easy. No waiting around wondering when a video is going to show up like on Vimeo.

Being able to network through Youtube, Facebook and MySpace is also a plus that I think Vimeo hasn't quite resolved yet.

Other than that, I love the video quality here and the ability to always find creative videos.

Zed Chance

Zed Chance

Vimeo is cleaner looking, better quality, better embed player, better in general, youtube is cluttered and slow, although youtube has millions of more videos, Vimeo will prevail.

Vincent Cloutier

Vincent Cloutier

You forgot the annoying advertising on youtube. I absolutly hate that.

Jeppe Morgenstjerne

Jeppe Morgenstjerne

Vimeo has a much better flow, you don´t get stuck, and the interface design is really cool and simple.
And if you are interested in the art of film, Vimeo is the obvious choice compared to YouTube.
To me YouTube is more like a (search)tool and Vimeo is a place for entertainment.

Watanidiot Editing

Watanidiot Editing

wow, i have just moved over from you tube i can say i'm enjoy the intellectual conversation.

Luka Stellwag

Luka Stellwag

I personally think vimeo is superior with the interface and the usability, which I think is really important. YouTube however has LOTS of users and is integrated into a lot of devices (Iphone, for example) - And that's why I use YouTube more than Vimeo, although I'd like it to be the opposite way.

Inofaith

Inofaith

Long posts but I'm gonna say what I think about youtube.

I think youtube had it's good times. But now it's corrupt. It's loaded with crap, rip-offs people making "compilations of stills of my favourite simpsons pictures wit some music", and the tons of porn sites trying to advertise via centre-frames and "sexy" tags.

Normal browsing like doing a search on google with filters ON isn't possible on YouTube anymore. 3 clicks into serious reviews and you stumble upon crap.

YouTube has hyper-video-linking, lot's of viewers... but a lot of them are kids.
You can find just about anything on youtube.

So I'll still post my music / DJ clips on there and hope some sensible people will watch them and have something good to say.

Vimeo feels like a true community for artists that support each other's creative goals.
More of a forum WITH embedded content.
I love the fact that Vimeo is rather simple and only has 1 advertisement.
However there are some people spamming Vimeo right now with inappropriate content. FLAG THEM OUT PEOPLE.

The big thing I'm missing is RELATED videos on Vimeo.
Or rather suggestions. "most of the people that watched this video, also watched this other video".
Like last.fm recommends you songs.
That would be great and totally in place for today's trends.

On Vimeo feel like "a person" has something to say to me or others. Rather than "some people" just blabbing in the post on YouTube.

Keep improving and supporting Vimeo!

Jason R. Johnston

Jason R. Johnston PRO

I was recently removed from YouTube because of TOS violations. Really? Everything I had on YouTube was something I owned or was deeply involved with. I'm a pro and I had posted short films and commercials that I personally created and I was removed -- on Christmas Day -- without warning. I didn't do anything wrong. If I ever left criticism on someone's video it was always constructive and I never got "written up" or anything. Why was my account suddenly banned? Why can't YouTube support the artist on a more personal basis?

YouTube became a corporate machine. It doesn't care about the individual user because for every one it screws there's a million more accounts to keep the traffic numbers up and the ad dollars rolling in. It's all about the kids and the crappy videos and the numbers. It's all about the quantity. It's all about the "I have a YouTube account" junior high prestige.

It's MySpace with video; which is obviously redundant.

When that happened I decided to become a Plus member here on Vimeo. I was already using both services: YouTube for the exposure and Vimeo for the quality, but then the realization hit me: for all its numbers YouTube is no more a community than a viper lair. Sure, they're all vipers, but they'll just as soon bite you as crap on you.

Vimeo, on the other hand, actually IS a community. One with parents that actually supervise and you know their names. You can communicate with the peeps responsible for maintaining this site and actually be heard...with responses. And Joe User here is also friendly and knowledgeable. Sure, people can get a little snippy here -- that happens everywhere -- but that's everywhere. But I don't get the sense of an "it's the internet so I can still be kind of anonymous and speak ill at you without fear of you punching me in the face like you might in the real world" attitude as you would on other sites and forums.

You guys are MY KIND of snippy. I'm an artist, too. I know how that goes. But it's on topic and has a point. That's constructive. Turning my video's page into an off topic flame war? That's YouTube.

Community: don't let Vimeo become another YouTube.

Vimeo is quality over quantity.

I am a Plus member because I believe in Vimeo and what it stands for. I'm an artist, I'm not a child, and I want to be surrounded by like-minded individuals who believe in my work as much as I believe in theirs.

That's Vimeo.

Just work on an app for the iPhone and you'll be all set. :)

sean guerrero

sean guerrero Plus

I agree with all out there , thats why I joined to see other creative ideas, I think it gives others more input to share and give back as opposed to the useless JUNK, and Massive COMERCIALLIZATION oF Y.T. As for viewer hits who cares
man just keep comin up with great ideas. upload you projects. There are alot of talented people on this site and I see alot more constructive comments as opposed to negative.........

Giorgos92

Giorgos92

Tuning just a week ago to Vimeo I am here now and I am addicted I could say with so many great videos!

I would also like to point that the site is AMAZINGLY organized. Whatever i would want to do is where I exaclty want to be! It's incredible! I just use my imagination to do something and everything I want is there! AMAZING work guys both users and administrators.

I don't want to go to YouTube again! That page sucks big big big time and google should invest more money for better quality (but it will suck again anyway - you know the reason).

I just have one request that's all. Please guys increase the upload space a couple of hundread megabites. 700 or 800 MB would be awesome.

and hey not all the 14 or 16 year old boys are posting crap! I try to post edited videos with some quality!

Kurt Schanaman

Kurt Schanaman

An interesting note to all of you. Not only is Vimeo better all around when it comes to quality, one of my own Vimeo videos made it to the first spot at the top of Google's search. Using the following keywords:

"cinelerra advantage youtubes widescreen"

You will note by the keywords that I was seeking others who have successfully rendered videos using the Linux "Cinelerra" editor and have done so for taking advantage of YOUTUBE'S new wide-screen format. What came up? My vimeo video "How To Prevent A Drive-By Paintball Shooting" hosted here on Vimeo. What that video has in pertinence to using Cinelerra for YouTube.. no clue.

Fact is that it appears videos here on Vimeo are getting excellent hits from Google and that, my friends, is more valuable than "sheer numbers" of videos.

The 'paintball shooting' video may seem boring to most here in the U.S. as the students were speaking in Spanish as part of their High School Spanish class project, so unless you know Spanish well enough to understand their badly spoken attempts (they still did better than I ever would have though) it may seem to be "missing" something - ENGLISH!! (lol) - so doesn't quite make sense to many.

None-the-less, I'm thrilled to see Google's 'engine' knows quality when it sees it. Vimeo Quality, that is.

Kurt Schanaman

Kurt Schanaman

I meant to add one more thing to the above post: Once I get myself employed again (things are rough here at the moment) I will be gladly paying Vimeo for a paid membership to help them out even though I haven't had time or money to do much with video at this point in time. These folks deserve to be supported so they can stick around while others are falling off the face of of the internet-scape.

I would strongly urge everyone to make the same consideration. One of the podcasting firms on which I was hosting one of my shows - Podango - just permanently went "off the air" this past week. They offered free hosting in exchange for your allowing them to put advertisements at the beginning and/or end of each episode. Advertiser revenue wasn't enough and the result is....

SILENCE

Let's not allow this to happen to Vimeo. I'll be sending them fundage out of any tax refund I may receive this year - if any. Should be enough to get Vimeo an annual payment :)

Long live Vimeo!

Connor

Connor

I like both Vimeo and YouTube.

Taro Unterburger

Taro Unterburger

Vimeo is godsend!

Quality is better, People aren't immature little five year-olds who make negative comments. And it has a nice modern user-interface that isn't cluttered with crap that nobody wants to see! simply beautiful!

Steve Webel

Steve Webel

I agree mostly, however, Vimeo has been buggy for me lately. Uploading has not gone smoothly in ALL of my recent uploads. It's forced me to upload to YouTube so that the Fam can see the grandkids until Vimeo can figure out their problems.

Kross Kreek Movies

Kross Kreek Movies

Youtube and Vimeo. Hmmm...

Youtube started it all and I'm used to that interface. The only problem other than the trolls, is Youtube's legal problems with Viacom and WMG.

I've had 2 videos pulled because I used copyrighted music that is owned by WMG, but I guess BMG and the others are just a-okay!

Vimeo is pretty slick and well made. I'm going to give it a chance.

ed

ed

Actually, I think Vimeo was a little before youtube.

Kross Kreek Movies

Kross Kreek Movies

Ah. Well anyway I was exposed to youtube first and used it for three years before I even heard of Vimeo.

Haeretic

Haeretic

The quality is really not noticeable if you format your files correctly and the added exposure + ability to upload more content makes Youtube the clear winner and that is the real reason everyone is there and not using Vimeo.

Kevin Anderson

Kevin Anderson

I have to say, I really enjoy using Vimeo, the people are so creative and give me inspiration and ideas, and as said above, YouTube seems to have alot more bashing, while Vimeo is nothing but positive comments and constructive critisism. I personally love Vimeo, and will continue to use it. Go Vimeo!

Collin

Collin

hmmmm... uhhhh.... VIMEO________!

the hauser export project.

the hauser export project. Plus

I think I can sum it up best with this little parable:

After completing our no-fi miniseries--following two years of back-breaking "learn as you go at EVERY possible step" headaches, heartaches, blood, sweat and tears--I uploaded it onto YouTube. Within a day, I had my first response. To summarize it:

"this was the worst film I ever watched. Get some actors and learn how to write, and don't give up your day job at Arby's, $%^%^@*."

Now, mind you, any person who dips and delves into the art realm has already run this circuit in their head a dozen times; getting smeared by strangers is the vernacular of the internet.

However, I posted the same material on Vimeo a few months later, and received a lovely little message from a perfect stranger.

"Made me laugh. Keep up the good work."

It may all be trivial and arbitrary in the greater scheme of what we do, but the fact that my humble little offerings have found more of an audience on here than crackle, dailymotion OR YT really does mean a lot. It also reflects the fact that this site's maintained a sense of dignity and integrity through its format and subscribership, which is something I can't say ANY of those other host-pits have managed.

So, fair play.

Sean O'Reilly

Sean O'Reilly

Vimeo makes me feel like I am part of a growing family. For example, we are having an intelligent conversation here. It also makes me work harder on my first video before I upload. I got garbage I can upload, but that belongs on youtube...Thanks Vimeo :)

Stark Insider

Stark Insider PRO

We've been testing Vimeo and several other services for a few months now. I am leaning towards Vimeo and a plus upgrade.

YouTube HD is actually very good. But its player looks horrible.

Facebook seems to perform surprisingly well, but is obviously a social network first and foremost, not a professional video sharing service.

The Vimeo interface is nice. I'm curious to know what kind of player customization there is with the plus account.

My biggest negative on Vimeo is the pricing model. I don't like the nickel & dime $60 + credits plan. It will force me to think carefully about which embeds to grant HD streaming, and also to limit what gets viewed by people. That's unfortunate. If we spend time on video production, I want as many people as possible to see the results!

I would suggest a another tier plan that is an "all-you-can-eat" for say $90/yr. And then lower the plus plan to $40/yr +credits. Or something like that.

For anyone curious in our comparison reports, you can visit this link which also has embedded tests including Vimeo which fares very well indeed. Best. Clint

starksilvercreek.com/2009/04/vimeo-youtube-facebook-viddler-smugmug-review-comparison-reigns-supreme-online-hd-video-hosting.html

merri christi pemberton

merri christi pemberton

That is a good idea. People now are being very cautious about how they spend their money. The sites that provide a better and more value-based pricing model will win out against their competitors.

Nico Boesten

Nico Boesten

I think Vimeo is nice and clean. I don't like dirt.

James T. Kirk

James T. Kirk

Everything said here already, I guess ... maybe just one thing, Vimeo could probably improve. In YouTube, people can choose the language, in which they like to use it. Vimeo is "only" in English.

All native English speakers might think, the world is speaking English anyway, but the truth is quite different.
For example here in Japan, the number of English speaking people ( on a level, that they can use such a homepage, fully understanding all terms and expressions ) is still less and the situation in China, Russia, South Amerika and even in Europe is often not much better.

Vimeo would get much more fans all over the world and more creative people from all over the world could connect in this great community, if there would be at least the chance to select one of the 10 most spoken languages. Something, that is already standard in Facebook, MySpace, etc. ... and in YouTube.

Daniel Hayek

Daniel Hayek Staff

Thank you Mr. Kirk, multiple languages would be nice. However, we currently do not have the resources to support such a modification.

JANEEN COMO

JANEEN COMO

Please help....how can I get my video to play widescreen on my myspace page? Thannnnnk you! :0)

Nathalie Babineau-Griffiths

Nathalie Babineau-Griffiths

I just made the switch. uploaded my first video (slideshow) and am in love. going to test drive it a bit more. but I can see going "plus" quickly. even if I won't go over the basic needs. I'll support it if it's working great for me.

Ran Walker

Ran Walker

I love the possibilities of Vimeo and cringe at the what YouTube has become. I have yet to see a cyber-bully on this site, and best of all, everyone here seems genuinely interested in the promotion of art. That's refreshing. All Vimeo needs is an iPhone App (to work around the 3GS pushing straight to YouTube). It would be a done deal then. Vimeo's my pick.

BigCrow (Crow Pictures)

BigCrow (Crow Pictures)

If you get a response to your video work here, it's a positive response in 90 %, and the "Like" button is a perfect thing too <3

Michael Brown

Michael Brown PRO

Hi BigCrow, I agree that there is a lot to speak for the real and positive community criticism here and I appreciate it and need it too, but someone who is looking for 90% positive response is holding a mirror in front of his face. I feel offended by negative criticism like anyone else, but when it's put respectfully and constructively, I appreciate it for just that: to improve my work and and learn what people really like or not and why. On YT you find out real fast how you stand against the masses. Ok, who cares? I don't make films for the masses. But it's a naked and sometimes painful truth. Vimeo can learn to be a bit more constructively critical too. This being said, I'm enjoying it, whereas I never "enjoyed" YT or MS. I guess that's what counts.

wdwlive

wdwlive

Vimeo owns in HD videos. I love youtube, but it's attracting little kids to the site. Thank you, faggot Fred! Vimeo's awesome!

Daniel Hayek

Daniel Hayek Staff

Hi, Thanks for the compliment but there's no need for offense language.

Jack Douglas

Jack Douglas

I agree. We all know that people that use this kinda of language have their own problems. Never heard any of these terms come from anyone who feels good about themselves. They try to hurt someone else so they fell better. SO, ignore them!!!

Chris Chapman

Chris Chapman

*doo doo, doo doo doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo*
*doo doo, doo doo doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo*

I love Vi-me-o
So won't you go and upload a mo-vie baby?
I love Vi-me-o
So come right here and film with me!

...

Not catching?
Never mind.

I think Vimeo is a site for people who take video stuff seriously. There is a shedloas of crap on YouTube. There's good stuff (Ryan Higa, music videos) but Vimeo takes it away for me. I like being able to talk with you lot, the Vimeo community.

But what the clinchers were is Tumblr integration (total Blogger > Tumblr convert) and the fact that you don't have to link it to a Google account, so you can have as many Vimeo accounts as you can hold hot sausages.

Vimeo WIN.

Andrewb

Andrewb

Short films or good Video's on Youtube are not received well. YouTube is a mix of 100-200 good publishers who fund the whole site and the rest of the stuff is mostly crap. It is good for tutorials or shows but here we have projects a real film community which makes it better.

Stickman HRK

Stickman HRK

really starting to hate utube nowadays, all the adverts and useless videos. Am noticing that im spending more time here at Vimeo.

OMB! Productions

OMB! Productions

it seems this thing only happens to me: for some reason, youtube (for me) is alot faster (as in loading-the-video-wise), even in HQ mode.

Jerry Vezzuso

Jerry Vezzuso

I like the local and selective feeling of Vimeo.

Joseph  Otieno Adamson

Joseph Otieno Adamson

I agree with most of the comments made about you tube, Vimeo is the only choice for hose who are serious about the work, what I have realized is that it seems that many people have not yet checked out the You tube Screening Room. Check it out you will be suprized.

Eric Lane

Eric Lane Plus

I love Vimeo and would choose it over Youtube any day of the week.

Because Google owns Youtube I have to say it does have one strong point.
That being Insight - This is probably the single best feature of Youtube videos. See who is watching your videos, where they are watching them from, trends, all displayed in bar graphs, pie charts, etc.

Still,

Vimeo is the best video community on the internets.

Michael Brown

Michael Brown PRO

Eric is right. Vimeo could gain immensely with good "insight" tools. And like I said to BigCrow, Vimeo users could learn to be more critical, without losing any of its respectful, quality oriented, constructive sense of community that every other platform I've discovered lacks. It's fun and a pleasure to be praised, but criticism is what helps you improve. Praise just boosts your ego (as if we didn't need that!) So come on over and boost my ego too – I sure appreciate it like anyone else, but don't be afraid to say what you don't like. That is the opinion we are all out there trying to understand.

Jennifer and Tim

Jennifer and Tim

Private video sharing on youtube, is only possible if the people your sharing with have a youtube account. You'd be surprised the number of people who don't have a youtube account.

Vimeo, you can share privately with anyone of your choosing.

DHP Multimedia

DHP Multimedia Plus

I used to post to YouTube because of the number of users. Especially since I am producing a web tv show. However, I am embeddding my content now and find that VIMEO has better quality and with VIMEO Plus, I have more control of the privacy and the embedding. I also like HD vs YouTube. I've uploaded on both sites, the same content, and find that VIMEO looks better AND I've gotten a lot of comments that VIMEO streams quicker and consistently in regards to our episodes of the Santa Fe TV Show. Look at my web site link SantaFeTVShow.com and just look at the quality.

Christian Paul

Christian Paul

Something i realized is that Vimeo videos dont need sound(even tho they have sound) they would work without.

They definitely work without words because in Vimeo a picture is really worth a thousand words. And the good music most users choose is another reason why words are unnecessary.

In my opinion Vimeo is so much better than youtube its inspiring its creative it has a soul. Its for real artists. Youtube seems to be a site for bored people.

You can say youtube is the trashcan of vimeo. But sometimes even good thing are thrown away.

Wecim Chabanov

Wecim Chabanov

definitly Vimeo , the answer is ;t amazing video and contest quality , here you find a pro content ,there is a lot of creativity , a lot of great job ...
the HD is amazing , what can i say ?
vimeo rocks , youtube sucks !!

Sam Prus

Sam Prus

Vimeo is great as an extension of my current reel. I can only fit so much into a showreel, and being able to show people more of my work is important as a creative. It's much more professional to open up a clean Vimeo page than YouTube, especially when you are talking with potential clients.

dago mong

dago mong

Hey I can't put forward on a video.. is like VHS videos, youtube let me forward while playing a video

Peter Montanez

Peter Montanez

I prefer Vimeo to YouTube, better quality, better layout.
Excellent!!

Frank Cooper

Frank Cooper

You should have picked up your baby and comforted her right away and said "Vimeo my dear Josephine Vimeo". To leave her without such consolation was just plain mean.

Daniyel

Daniyel

Viemo is awesome! :D
its seems everyone see it the way i do

Scott Mohrman

Scott Mohrman

Great video. I think Vimeo is a higher class version of youtube. I love vimeo.

loui guldberg

loui guldberg

Youtube make me cry too -.- hehe :)

lol :P

Comeone be a good dad xD

Tim Carrender

Tim Carrender

I am brand new and it is quite obvious the difference between youtube and vimeo. I am not an artistic person but I like quality in things I publish online. I will still use youtube to put videos on from my cell phone... other than that I have my dedication in making good quality videos from this site.

Tarik Dobbs

Tarik Dobbs Plus

Vimeo Is Amazing its so much more customizable and friendly then youtube. Thanks Vimeo!

VIZWORX

VIZWORX Plus

As a new Vimeo user & up-loader, quite simply..
Vimeo is by far the only choice for me.
Quality ALL the way!!! well done guys...cheers!!!

Ivy Jelisavac

Ivy Jelisavac

I have a lot of trouble finding nice short films to watch on YouTube, and guys, really, it's plain ugly. But it's more of a place for vlogging kinds of stuff and the interactive game possibilty might make it nicer for some. Too much crap there for me though, I never browse but only follow single links.

Vimeo is better for quality work, and I actually think you get more exposure in smaller communities in a short time. When your video is one in a million, barely someone will see it; when it's one of a thousand, chances are much higher. I prefer small communities because that's what they are, communities, not... stacks and piles of content and random people. I have a hard time imagining hate comments on here.

Ohsta6t2

Ohsta6t2

YouTube is quantity but lacks quality.

Vimeo is quality but lacks quantity.

Neat examples.

General Heed

General Heed

Well, youtube unfortunately has an 11 minute time limit on their videos unless you made your account before a certain date or you are a Youtube partner. Vimeo on the other hand has unlimited video time which is definitely a plus. However, Vimeo only has 720p HD while Youtube now has up to 1080p HD. So if you want the best quality possible, it's going to have to be Youtube. But like many other people have said, Vimeo tends to have better videos than Youtube since Youtube is for more general videos.

Adam Reuter

Adam Reuter Plus

Vimeo had 1080p before Vimeo...I believe. What I'd like to see Vimeo add soon is support for 720p60. I love the look of my 1080/60i videos downconverted to 720/60p. Going to 720/30p is nasty.

Are we talking about free acounts or what? As a Plus member I have 1080p as an option.

Ohsta6t2

Ohsta6t2

Vimeo has such potential and can be compared to YouTube. It's a shame it has a small but loyal userbase in spite of quality but a handful of videos, intuitive interface and features not utilized on YouTube such as widgets or even an ability to change your username.

John Haynes

John Haynes

I'd enjoy vimeo more, if you could upload 16:9 on a standard account.

BigCrow (Crow Pictures)

BigCrow (Crow Pictures)

I recently uploaded my 16:9 video, the player becomes widescreen, but it has some strange aspect ratio, about 16:10.5, not 16:9 :)

Pretty strange, but still wide.

DJ AARIES

DJ AARIES

I THINK BOTH HAVE THEIR ADVANTAGES..... THIS SITE DEFINATELY IS "CRISPER" THAN YOU TUBE..... BUT YOUTUBE HAS MORE MEMBERS & YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR PROFILE... BUT THIS ONE IS GROWING ON ME..

ScalesOffMedia

ScalesOffMedia Plus

This is the spot for people who are passionate about be creative.....agree....i am loving it....more quality

Ohsta6t2

Ohsta6t2

What's more is Vimeo rarely changes the site. YouTube has constantly having new and worse updates on the site since which makes Vimeo a winner in design quality as well now.

Drew

Drew

I just joined Vimeo the other day, and I have to say I really like the site layout and community feel. I agree that it is more suited to creative people and a more mature audience. I think it is vastly superior to youtube in this regard.

But I still enjoy the sheer scope of video you can find on youtube. If I want to see some raw video from Afghanistan, or the rioting in Iran, or watch a review of a new electronics product, or find out how to install a new glovebox in my car, etc...you can be sure somebody, somewhere uploaded it. In other words, I think youtube's diversity is a big strength. Obviously, the downside is you get a lot of crap, too. :)

I think vimeo and youtube both work for different purposes, while remaining useful in their own ways.

Anthony McLean

Anthony McLean

Vimeo has a much sexier player than YouTube's, which to be quite honest is pretty damn ugly!

Julie Meitz

Julie Meitz

Well, at first I only posted videos to my own website. Then I tried YouTube and was unhappy with the compression. Then tried Dailymotion and was happier, then discovered Vimeo and was more happy and settled here.

However, YouTube seems to be changing now a days and the quality is better (in HD). I use to detest YouTube also, but let's face it, it's known and when you can't find a video here or on other video server sites, where does one usually go to find it? ;-)

Overall, yes, Vimeo is built well, has some nice options and has created a community of various sorts, but heck, one can also find similar YouTube content video here on Vimeo, after all, it's internet service, open to the public, and becoming more known.

If interested, I did a video about my feelings of YouTube (bad compression) and put it on YouTube awhile back:
youtube.com/watch?v=vqGlXempQvA

Julie Meitz

Julie Meitz

Hi Michael. What exactly do you mean by "scratchy"?
Also, did you watch them in 480 or 720HD instead of 360?
In 360 they are more grainy (pixelated), not great compression, of course.

Stuart Creasey

Stuart Creasey

i just joined and am using vimeo to put up my uni projects and such
as a amateur i think this site is way ahead of youtube if just in the user base.
every video i have ever seen on you tube has some idiot flaming the guy who made it regardless of the quality of the video.
never seen that on here!

EksQuisit(e) Studios

EksQuisit(e) Studios

Vimeo is something I'd prefer for a more professional experience. YouTube can be used for promotions of everyone's project and directing them to Vimeo, where they find professional videos.

Julie Meitz

Julie Meitz

This is probably not the section to post this to, but in regards to Vimeo:

I have received many messages from various Vimeo users asking me to watch their videos and vote for them, or from the same Vimeo user, continuing to send one message after the other, asking me to watch their videos.

After a point, this is spamming in my opinion, and one can not block users in Vimeo where as I believe in DailyMotion one can.

Jonathan Crider

Jonathan Crider

Vimeo = professional.

YouTube = adolescent.

If I want someone to see the quality of my work, I point them to Vimeo. If I want to show someone a stupid funny video, I point them to YouTube.

And that's how the world turns.

Marc Pino

Marc Pino

lol comments like these make it seem you are the adolescent

tim prebble

tim prebble PRO

Theres a good saying: "Fish where the fish are"

so if you want your work to reach the largest audience possible, its not an either/or question.... the answer is vimeo AND youtube AND film festivals AND wherever else people will watch it....

Sean Finnegan

Sean Finnegan Plus

Vimeo's navigation, functionality, design, and quality of content trumps YouTube time and time again. I very much like how there are no sports compilation videos, no vlogs, no trolls in the comment sections. Vimeo is a community of creative video content makers - videographers, cinematographers, directors, writers, filmmakers. YouTube is just a video site where any video can be uploaded.

Matthew Faulkner

Matthew Faulkner

i'm a kid and I like Vimeo way better than You Tube. I make Laser quest videos so I'm probably the only user that uses vimeo for youtube material. So it really is easy to make vimeo fun but they just gotta make videos less about professialism and more about having fun.'nough said without the cussing of course

Romel Shearer

Romel Shearer

vimeo is a lot more refined and the user interface is a lot more... user friendly than youtube's. also, there are no crappy, irrelevant, and annoying videos like there is on youtube. everything on vimeo is quality, professional, interesting, and FUN! i <3 vimeo.

Martyrs the Series (HD)

Martyrs the Series (HD)

In all honesty, I think there's room for both. I just read "vimeo is for people with passion, youtube is for people who want fame and popularity" - Hm, I'm thinking 'passion' and 'fame' aren't necessarily opposing forces... at least I don't believe they are.

I'm an artist and I bust my @ss to create my work because I'm passionate about it... but is it so wrong to want a little recognition for ones efforts as well? (rhetorical)

Vimeo definitely has the better interface and awesome video quality over Youtube but Youtube has been getting better about the quality of their HD videos, it just sucks that on YT the HD video is a 2nd or 3rd choice where on Vimeo, the HD videos are displayed in HD (for Plus Users anyway, I'm not sure about free users)

As far as the community aspect, it's Vimeo hands down ~ YouTube is a stones throw away from the 'rants and raves' section on Craigslist where at any minute SOMEone is liable to start throwing around derogatory slurs, and I can't have that. I'm happy the moderators here keep a close eye on things.

If I HAD to pick one and only one? It would be Vimeo of course, the privacy control, video quality in addition to the things mentioned above would be too good to pass on. However... if I happened to stumble across video footage of a cat playing 'Desafinado' on the tuba, I'd most definitely go with YouTube.

Marc Pino

Marc Pino

Was about to lose respect for ALL Vimeo users until I read this comment.

cybero

cybero Plus

YouTube is popular because it is unpretentious & largely uncritical - any and all are ostensibly allowed, [though any and all are not always welcomed]. Intelligent criticism is almost the exception on YouTube. The populist tone is allowed to fall to the lowest feasible denominator and that can get pretty damned low indeed. In that regard it reminds me of a graffitied public toilet, which kind of does YouTube a disservice, but it's what some of the users do make of the place.

Vimeo, on the other hand , especially it seems to me for the paying account holders, is a place where the notion of well presented content is taken seriously. There's a far higher degree of pertinent comment and enquiry on Vimeo, and a total lack of the weirdly inverted fear of giving praise that is so sadly evident on YouTube. I would be seriously underwhelmed if Vimeo were to become a similar place of discourse to YouTube & I hope it retains it interest in treating content creation, presentation and the avid audience for the same with the same simple respect that has borne such good fruit to date. Vimeo actually has sense of community without the headache of being likely to become the place to start a campaign to support this week's serial killer [as happened recently upon Facebook]

Which is best - Vimeo. Better interface, better quality codifying, better streaming & well used.

Which is the most popular & widely & often badly used - YouTube.

It's like a broadsheet versus tabloid debate :-)

Hakon

Hakon

I've always been a YouTube user, but this looks alot better, love the kinda modern design. Just made this acc for 30 min ago, and already i love it, mostly because of the 10 year old douchebags isnt here hehe.

DHP Multimedia

DHP Multimedia Plus

YouTube is great for finding music videos that are uploaded by people who do not have the permission to upload them. And the same with TV Shows and Movies. So you can browse and search for all this stuff. Vimeo is great for content producers and creative people in the business or just learning. It's great for inspiration and opening your mind.

DHP Multimedia

DHP Multimedia Plus

OH, and my clients, who I produce content for and I post here for their review, ABSOLUTELY love Vimeo. They love that it's not cluttered with profanity and people getting hit in the groin.

Vishal Singh

Vishal Singh Plus

For me, Vimeo represents a community where I can learn things and share art. Youtube on the other hand is a place where you can get exposure. YouTube is only like 10% quality content, all buried under piles of crap. Vimeo is filled to the brim with fantastic content and community and forums and projects and all kinds of food for the creative mind! I don't want to choose one over the other however, YouTube is still capable of amazing things, it's just harder to find, but that's what comes with being such a large website. For me, they have very different functions in regard to my videos, so I don't compare them much. They're both amazing websites in their own rights :)

Rômulo Zanini

Rômulo Zanini

In my opinion, the *only* thing holding Vimeo back compared to Youtube is the infamously weak iPhone/iPad integration.

I can embed YouTube videos in my portfolio website and it Just Works on those devices. Vimeo videos simply don't load, making it look like the dork who made the website forgot to add the main content! Embarassing! Is this supposed to be the better option for people who are serious about video sharing?

And the usual staff responses to this aren't exactly encouraging:

"We're working on it, any day now (for the last two years, without updates)."

or

"Haven't you heard? Pay for Vimeo Plus, then you'll be one of the privileged few with the right to iPhone-watchable uploads. It'll work, promise! Kind of. Certain conditions apply. Your mileage may vary."

To me, this glaring weakness in the mobile front is a serious flaw in an otherwise excellent user experience (no ads, clean design, nice community, better content).

It's 2010 folks, stop acting like iPhone use is a passing fad that will go away if you ignore it enough.

Dexter Roderick

Dexter Roderick

I live in South Africa, can i get views from here too?

Dominique Gray

Dominique Gray

Youtube has a lot of drama. There are always people who criticizes you or say smart remarks for no reason. You can say "I like this video" And someone else will go "You suck" or a racist remark..it;s stupid and immature. I still use it but not as much as I used to. I love the clarity of Vimeo and the users and videos seem very creative and mature. I wouldn't say YouTube is for little kids since a lot of people are adults but thats the sad thing. And it is a fame and popularity site, here is different and I guess thats why I like it better. And this site has gotten much more popular since this thread started. Also, the layout on here is so clean and the colors are beautiful compared to YouTube and there are no commercials or ads on Vimeo.

merri christi pemberton

merri christi pemberton

Both video sharing sites have pros and cons. Youtube will always keep the dominant space of the most used video sharing site and the large community. It successfully nabbed "the brand name" spot when people think of video sharing sites. I don't see that changing soon.

Vimeo will be used for better quality, even though the conversion time can be lengthy. We all have our likes and dislikes, but if Vimeo concentrates on quality and improving quality at an economical price to the users (remember the economy), then they will have a steady fan base from people who want quality at a value price.

I use both Vimeo and Youtube..Youtube to upload videos quicker (time is extremely valuable) and also to receive larger traffic...but I use Vimeo due to its cleaner viewer box set up (no ugly logos) and the quality seems a little better.

Graham Evans

Graham Evans

youtube is not a community. It is a medium for exchange and a pretty important one. I've got more to say but really- why here?

Chris Zuker

Chris Zuker Plus

"Vimeo vs. Youtube, The Question".....

There is no question! Vimeo is for serious projects and respectable footage. Youtube is a melting pot of poor quality videos, autotunes, and remixes of "Charlie Bit Me"... For a good laugh, and that video that everyone's been talking about that was on Tosh.0, go to Youtube. To see works of art, and things done by those who are serious about their work, choose Vimeo.

3:Axis Films

3:Axis Films Plus

I think both sites exist for different reasons. Vimeo gives me what I'm looking for.

Joey Oliveras Jr.

Joey Oliveras Jr.

I left You Tube in frustration, they give me the impression that they can't distinguish a creative thoughtful video to a video that is simply thrown together. I came to vimeo hoping to be recognize for my efforts of creating a good story. It's my real strength. I hate it when they say they put a video together just out of bordom and yet recieve more views faves and comments and on the other hand, I actually give an explanation to my video with every intention in mind, and it's ignored. I don't see how that makes any sense. You tube frustrates me. At least here, although I may not get recognition right away with my current videos, but it makes more sense that I'm surrounded by films of such great art and quality. That I can understand, I'm a beginner after all, and I can benefit from what I learn of other films for inspirations.

johannes granlund

johannes granlund

Easier to find quality here but Vimeo still lacks some features like the possibility to create a playlist of videos. Nice to do when watching with some friends :)

Ian Skalky

Ian Skalky

that's a dum question, perhaps even rhetorical... vimeo is the obvious answer...

Jack Douglas

Jack Douglas

Which is better for hosting videos that I put in a web site Word Press theme or embed in to PowerPoint. I don't want other videos showing up as choices at the bottom after a video finishes, for instance.

Deepak Dhawan

Deepak Dhawan

YouTube is Slumdog

Vimeo is Millionaire..

YouTube is slums...

Vimeo is Suburbs

Vimeo is Focused....

Looks like Youtube never was... With the kind of crap u find over there.

Everyday I want to come back to Vimeo, because i find Creative, helpful, Inspiring people here...

Vimeo is my Food for thought..

Marc Pino

Marc Pino

I guess your cool cause you use Vimeo instead of YouTube

Just Mickey Inc.

Just Mickey Inc.

I Love you both.....( there's no delete or placement on desktop on Vimeo film clips) but ....DON'T STOP ..either one of you ....

Natalia Roschina Billie Jean

Natalia Roschina Billie Jean

Hello from Hokkaido, Japan. I made 100 films in 2010 for MJ. All are on You Tube. I just started using Vimeo Feb2011. I have scary THRILLER type films on Tube which scare many adults. I decided to make my Vimeo channel only for children as education channel. So I will move kids films from You Tube to Vimeo.

Just sharing how I separate them. So I disagree with many comments below. You Tube has everything, and Vimeo has everything too. Putting video in groups is advantage of Vimeo. Kind regards, BILLIE JEAN

Natalia Roschina Billie Jean

Natalia Roschina Billie Jean

Personally I don't care about quality of most films. For me the most important thing is whether they convey the message or not. How many high quality films have been made about war? And we still have war. So what's the point? Many artists focus on art, and not on getting results. Artists need to change the way they work. We need Leonardo bridges from art to reality. Regards from Japan, BILLIE JEAN

Jeremiah Warren

Jeremiah Warren

It depends on what you want. If you want a lot of views, and want to make money, then go with YouTube. If you want a nice clean interface to show your art, then Vimeo.

I find it hilarious how people are dissing YouTube because of the quality of videos. They forget that one of the winning videos at the Vimeo awards was taken from footage downloaded from YouTube (the falling short).

Robert Szary

Robert Szary

Vimeo is for people with a passion and has a much more artistic mature community

Jon Spain

Jon Spain

im going with vimeo has more class and youtube doesnt

Chris Staring

Chris Staring

I blame youtube for the video that won tropfest this year. Im not saying it was a bad video, but I really don't think it should have won, and don't believe it would have if youtube did not exist.

youtube.com/watch?v=vxiSP_ch_oI

Matty Brown

Matty Brown PRO

On youtube it's like digging through a dirty dumpster to find the good stuff, and vimeo it's more like looking through a clean rcycling bin to find the good stuff, hehe

Marc Pino

Marc Pino

Brandon Rowe 3 months ago
I think both sites exist for different reasons. Vimeo gives me what I'm looking for.

Wow smartest thing ive heard on t his post yet.

YouFirstEye

YouFirstEye PRO

I am new to Vimeo. The YouTube version of my new short is in full HD in 24p. I have to rerender it in 30p and sampling down a bit for Vimeo. Am I mistaken? I also noticed that Vimeo has a better compression than YouTube.

vimeo.com/20673161

7th Floor Fashion Television LA

7th Floor Fashion Television LA

Vimeo is better than You-tube. Vimeo is for the creative common. Everything on You-tube is junk... Vimeo is for the fashion designer, musican, photographer ect... I and pray that they never, ever become like You-tube.

Scott Burgess

Scott Burgess

I feel for myself, the debate is about search.

On YouTube I search, and on Vimeo I discover

YouTube I explicitly search for what I want, but Vimeo bases its content more around categories and content.

Even look at the % of the page taken in terms of search.

Dr. Lukas Brezak

Dr. Lukas Brezak

I love Vimeo, but there is one .... thing. Embedding ERROR since Vimeo launch the Widgets... But you soon created the software for iPhone, but the ERROR message is still there... why?

Tom Ruzicka

Tom Ruzicka

It's like comparing Burger King with a 5 star gourme restaurant.

Videographers

Videographers Plus

This is an old, old question. Both sites has something good and bad. There is a even a better site than vimeo, it's exposureroom.com with higher quality and mostly pros, unlimited uploads and no waiting. A LOT MORE custom settings then either sites. EX is a bit slow to play just like vimeo for streaming but at least you don't have to pay for a Plus membership. No limits and your questions goes straight to the management and get a reply. FIRST CLASS site!

Now for the pracical site, YT has a lot of trash but if I need to search for a product, instructions it's all there. Not at vimeo. Their search function is laughable and can't find anything remotely close, or if you didn't spell it exactly it won't find anything.

YT has HD just as good as vimeo.
I uploaded and tested. No difference. In fact some video is better looking on YT.

The play.
Well, this is where vimeo fails.
It's slow, sputters and stops. Same with EX site but not with YT site.

It all comes down to what you need. I don't need to see a video in 1920X1080 rez and anything decent is OK with me.

Do try exposureroom.com site and see how cool it is. No kids, no junk, only pro video. How can you argue with unlimited upload and no waiting, first class service?

Modecaster

Modecaster

Vimeo is a more creative place than youtube , its easier to find like minded people who have a level of respect and proffesionalism here . You tube can be a bit of a cattle market

Priscilla Hernandez

Priscilla Hernandez

i'm still a newbie at vimeo, traditionally i've promoted my works in youtube, so i'm a newbie around here, I think you can have both accounts for different purposes, vimeo looks like more pro and clean for an electronica press kit than youtube, and youtube is more for a bit of everything, vlogging and mess around.

Integer

Integer

I think Vimeo beats You Tube for the community and website usability.

You Tube beats Vimeo in actual profit generation from your videos. On You Tube you get paid for your ads. You don't have restrictions on uploads. There is a lot of garbage on both but You Tube has a better platform to make a living making your own videos. A lot of people are making well over $100k per year with a video a week.

I don't really see how you can compare the two sites honestly. They have a totally different market, site, and platform. I like them both but I will say Vimeo has a much better showcase of commercial movies and show reels. You Tube is better to make a living.

Owen Andrade

Owen Andrade

Youtube is for cute kittens.
Vimeo is for artists.

Michael Masterson

Michael Masterson Plus

I've had an account on YouTube for 3 years now. I'm a sophomore in film school and I've realized I need to make a name for myself ya know? I've been waiting for it to take off. I'm done with the fake production names and stuff, and Vimeo seems like a very professional place for filmmakers. I agree with everything said so far. It's difficult for a YouTube user to get their stuff exposed. But the only reason why I've kept mine is for the sole reason of an audience. Over the years I've started noticing a spike in viewers (slim though) and I'm worried that my videos could do well on YT. I'm just not confident that Vimeo can provide that audience. I want to stay organized, so I'm debating if I should delete my YouTube and lose all the views. I just don't want to start from scratch... :(

Anyone else in this predicament?
All the best,
Mike

Jaimin Rajani

Jaimin Rajani

I'd go for Vimeo over YouTube due to the better video quality offered by Vimeo and the utter crap that's accumulated on YouTube.

Integer

Integer

I think there is a whole lot of utter crap on both YouTube and Vimeo. To be honest I think it's only because YouTube is more popular that it has more crap. I could be wrong but everyone knows what YouTube is and most people I talk to out of the industry have never heard of Vimeo.

I will say that Vimeo is more of a community environment. I find that useful but the better quality videos are on YouTube and Vimeo. The bad quality stuff is on Vimeo in orders of Magnitude. Vimeo does a better job of highlighting the good stuff than YouTube for sure. I don't see it as an either or. I see it as multiple distribution outlets. Both are viewed by a lot of people. Why limit your viewers to only the professionals? The professionals generally hate FreddieW but he is getting Kevin Pollock, Eliza Dushku, Andy Whitfield, Shanae Grimes, and more to be in his videos. Freddiew's 250 million views in a little over a year should put it in perspective for people that want their videos to be seen and not just posted on the internet.

The entire YouTube vs. Vimeo debate is like UPS vs. Fedex. They both provide outstanding service but some people will never stop complaining about one or the other.

Simple Studios

Simple Studios

Like many have said. Vimeo is quality and less quantity unlike Youtube. Undeniably videos on youtube get more vies than Vimeo but that isn't because the videos are better, it's because the site has more users. A community of users very different to Vimeo's. I respect Youtube for its functionality but Vimeo for its content.

Tahlia Espenscheid

Tahlia Espenscheid

lets not mention youtube!!!! we can let the youtubers hear us!!! they will spam us! come on Vimeans! lets avoid thier stupid videos

Cappuccino

Cappuccino

Vimeo vrs youtube thats kinda an unfair comparison. Like comparing a bicycle to a ferrari in speed

the F-Vimeo wins everytime

info@cmefilms.co.uk

info@cmefilms.co.uk

Given that VIMEO has ignored UK copyright Law in favour of their own daft policy in a case of copyright infringement where a counter notice was submitted that was untrue. I'm afraid I could never recommend VIMEO to anyone as their policy toward the copyright of a soverign country is a danger to filmmakers and artists. I have been informed by VIMEO that I have to embark on a costly legal action and get a court order before VIMEO will remove my work and respect my rights. VIMEOs actions in this case are not in the interests of filmmakers but rather in favour of the infringer. I have asked for comment before I press release this but none has been forthcoming from VIMEO. Perhaps a embargo on VIMEO by filmmakers and artists would make them sit up and listen

WazeeNet

WazeeNet

I am a kid, but i appriciate quality over

Erik Nikolas Nunez

Erik Nikolas Nunez

I do not realy why I like vimeo more then this. MAybe because it was Made with love in NYC, or because of the video school(this is how I found this website). I still use youtube but vimeo is one of my he pages. I am not a native but I still do understand everything, except what Daniel says.

Sorry for spelling mistakes I am not native :)

Richie Blac

Richie Blac Plus

Personally, I just think Vimeo and Youtube are completely different animals. I spend more time on Vimeo but I honestly like them both. They're very different in nature.

ASTATIC Media

ASTATIC Media

On Youtube you can post any thing and comment anything you want. it is really easy to get views and comments and the search engine works good. Vimeo instead has always good quality videos and good quality but the searchengine isn't perfect. so vimeo is for good quality and good video's and youtube is more commercial

Tom M

Tom M

I have noticed something: YouTube has more videos.
Vimeo has less.
But the Vimeo ones aren't crappy

Scell

Scell

Alright so, just joined Vimeo, not to be critical but, all the rules with not being able to edit well everything besides your own hand made videos is interesting. First of all, it is nice that they force you to create your own stuff, but how will you learn to create your own stuff if you cannot experiment with movies, and Tv shows editing them adding effects creating promotional vides etc. Saying i cannot use movies and TV shows yet i can use say some ones music for my video is very hypocritical. So i can use someone elses music in my videos but i am not aloud to use someones movie?

Scell

Scell

Sorry, i have to buy a video camera now in order to make videos, so in essence is that like paying a charge fee because now i have to create my own videos because everyone obviously has the money in this economy to buy a video camera right?. reason Vimeo is not user friendly, because now you incorporate all these rules that force creativity and true art that i agree with totally i think it is a great idea to expand our thinking because we all need that truly. ( honest). So, explain that, not everyone has graphic programs to show video games that someone has created. So i feel as though i need a camera now in order to actually show my work. Sorry i am not aloud to afford a camera, oh hey can i show my work by, editing videos and TV shows, and Film fading and use awesome music and create a great video and such, you know like show you this is what i am capable of but i can not upload because i am not able to afford a camera?

Scell

Scell

lastly, It is either buy programs to create the video or buy the camera to make the video, and as we all know a video itself is great but with technology all the video we see have effects in them no matter the video they are incorporated within the video. how will i afford that oh and i have to pay 50 bucks a month for premium service? lol thats funny. Vimeo you advertise art, yet youtube advertises as well. Vimeo is like the spartans, you only have a few, but yet it will die in the end, youtube has an army of people. So people wont watch your videos on Vimeo because your quality sucks? lol. So it is now about HD quality rather than what?. So if i have an awesome video of 480p you wont watch it? oh ok thank you. I just started what can i say, but by watching reviews, comments, videos i feel vimeo is somewhat selfish in thinking they are all about art, i really think they are using all of this to create money. Vimeo is limited, and now i have to wait and upload. haha. ok

Scell

Scell

Oh by the way, you really think philip defranco and Toby, from tobuscus, would have enough room to upload the videos they do weekly on Vimeo. Their are allot of people who upload videos like crazy . Vimeo just started so they deserve some slack, i will give them that, because youtube, wont be messed up with red tube, etc. lol so i can see how they are not origina anymore. Tell me how Vimeo surpasses youtube first of all. Because when i edit videos on youtube, i feel as though i have lots of freedom, i dont have to wait 10min for a HD quality video that is 4-5min long. seriously. And youtube support all qualities just in case i have a crappy computer, camera or programs because i supposedly do not have the money for all that crap. Sorry my bad, Well Vimeo yo are a baby no and it depends on who raises that will depend on how you become so let see how you grow up.

Scell

Scell

You will say i am rambling on, i have no idea what i am talking about, oh am i gunning to lol, or is that not english i do not know. you will say who is this joker, this guy needs to shut up. If he is talking so much trash why is he on here. go back to youtube loser. this kid is no artist. You will think that and believe it. If you want my passion it is poetry, tell me how i am able to put that on here and i will because that is what i do, i am a poet on and i am straight for you stereotypical idiots.

Scell

Scell

I have created a great edited video clip, with awesome effects, music and quite good artistic design behind the making or editing of it but you will not exepct it because it is not art. define art to me. because art is whatever he or she persieves to be their creation. Authors steel idea from authors, artists who draw steel idea from other drawers and painters. Graphic deign artists with games and etc steel idea from other organization and put them within their game and make it unique with whatever game they create. yet you think art is someones creation expecting it to be different yet it is because it is her creation or his. so define to me what art is
becaue what i did is art to meis it not

Damien

Damien

You are right, you are rambling on and on. And not with proper English at that. I won't list your mistakes as this is not the point of my reply. Merely a side note to take into consideration if you are indeed into poetry.

Both YouTube and Vimeo have their advantages. Generally speaking, YT is broader in its reach and hence the capacity of certain people to be able to build up audiences for themselves. You do have a lot of crap on there as well (pure spams, not just bad videos because that's linked to personal preferences). Vimeo is a more targeted outlet that aims to channel pro, semi-pro, amateur film-makers' creativity and allow them to share with fellow film-makers and fans.

In essence, they do not target the same audience. On YT you could find a lady in bikini at the beach with no particular editing or effect for the sake of its teenage population interested in seeing her forms. Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you are after. Vimeo would have it in a more enticing way, with editing, different shots, close-ups, etc. To appeal to other film-makers and inspire them with their filming (that's the goal at least).

One does not have to be against the other. But, if I had a nice video on which I put time and effort, recruited (or hired) actors, crew, etc., I think I would first think about uploading it on Vimeo than YT to get the "right" audience.

I am glad you made your own video with cool edits and all. That is a form of art. And I am sure it's a great video. It just doesn't fall into Vimeo's criteria, because their aim is different than YouTube's. It's not about getting everything we can on here, but pick and choose what we want based on what we feel Vimeo stands for: original content. Even if it's inspired by the work of others. After centuries of art, it is hard to get an idea that is totally new. It's all about the way you deliver it. That's the difference between your work and the video a film-maker has put time into creating from scratch. There is no judgement on either form, but that's the line Vimeo has drawn.

James M. Williams Jr

James M. Williams Jr

I have had a lot of problems with youtube, including increased and an unending problem of receipt of spam/junkmail supposedly from youtube. I tried unsuccessfully for years to contact them about this, to no avail. They have gotten too big for their britches, to the point they don't even provide direct contact information where users can file and send emails about issues, problems or complaints. I'm giving them one last chance, then will suspend and delete my youtube account... I've used Vimeo and so far, am very pleased with the quality, ease of use and lack of junk that is an ever present problem and part of youtube.

James M. Williams Jr

James M. Williams Jr

I tried going to "Exposureroom.com" but no avail. Finally I researched it online and apparently it's shut down permanently and out of business. While there I saw quite a few posts of people doing nothing but bashing vimeo.com. In my personal opinion Vimeo is a pretty good site and the free version is actually superior to youtube. In the meantime, the vimeo bashers are out of luck with ER because so many of them lost their videos and don't have backups, but they're still bashing vimeo. Huh... Many of the former vimeo & Exposure Room recommended other websites but after researching them I noticed that the other sites have membership fees and dues to sign up and must be paid for. Additionally, one site that you have to pay to join, only allows you to upload and post a maximum of 3 videos. That's not a whole lot. Here at vimeo, I am allotted as many videos as I want, as long as I don't exceed 500MB in size. Thats Good enough for fair quality videos...

Jack Fleming Films

Jack Fleming Films Plus

Youtube is for more of the people who dont have much of a budget and just post a bunch of videos sometimes about nothing. Vimeo is the HD, higher budget, film, people who know what they are doing. And thats why some professionals use Vimeo!

Jabbar Bozdar

Jabbar Bozdar

Something more than film is coming on Vimeo. Do you dare to watch it?

John Cunningham

John Cunningham

I think back in 2006 Youtube was it. However now its a kind of site that advertisers and the TV main stream have hijacked

Infernal Grape

Infernal Grape

Hm, you can't post videogame's walkthroughs or let's play on Vimeo. You say it's good coz there is no 100500 shitty gears of war videos? well, that's right....

...but it also bad if we are speaking about rare masterpieces you can't even buy now and only thing u can is finding any videos.

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That's just an example, sure, there also things for which Vimeo is useless. And vice versa,

Bunnylove101

Bunnylove101

I don't have a YT...But I have watched videos on YT. I like YT better....I also like that you can skip adds a lot of times.

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ART BY CHANCE PRO

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Jabbar Bozdar

Jabbar Bozdar

Can everyone see, how mature comments have had been here for seven years. This is the main difference between Vimeo and YouTueb. I prefer Vimeo over YouTube due to a very different reason. YouTueb often faces censorship in different countries due to its irresponsibility and ‘no control’ over content whereas Vimeo works everywhere because they know with who will consider to have a paid account to upload their most of the videos. Definitely, professional and mature guys! Either 20 years or 40 years old. They are working minds. Ain't?

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